Israel is Babylon the Great!

[Earburner]

It does indeed.

Zechariah 14
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

That's not what Acts 1:9-11 says. You and many others are assuming!

Don't you yet know that the OC prophets were not allowed to know in which of the three manifestations* of Jesus, that Zech. 4:4 was to be fulfilled?
*1. In the likeness of our mortal flesh.
*2. In the Spirit after His Ascension.
*3. In the Glory of His Spirit and Immortality, upon His return from Heaven.
The answer is #1.

John 1
[38] Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?
[39] He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour [approx. 4:00pm by our standard of time].
Luke 21
[37] And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives.

 

[Jack]

That's not what Acts 1:9-11 says. You and many others are assuming!

Don't you yet know that the OC prophets were not allowed to know in which of the three manifestations* of Jesus, that Zech. 4:4 was to be fulfilled?
*1. In the likeness of our mortal flesh.
*2. In the Spirit after His Ascension.
*3. In the Glory of His Spirit and Immortality, upon His return from Heaven.
The answer is #1.

John 1
[38] Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?
[39] He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour [approx. 4:00pm by our standard of time].
Luke 21
[37] And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives.

Jesus will return to the same place He left. That was my point.

 

[Earburner]

Jesus will return to the same place He left. That was my point.

In KJV-Acts 1:9-11, it doesn't say anything about from where Jesus was "taken up", but rather HOW He was "taken up".
It clearly says:
[9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
[10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
[11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in LIKE MANNER
AS ye have SEEN him GO INTO heaven.

ln all of the NT scriptures, concerning Jesus' Glorious manifestation from Heaven, no where does it ever say that Jesus shall descend to the earth.

 

[Jack]

In KJV-Acts 1:9-11, it doesn't say anything about from where Jesus was "taken up", but rather HOW He was "taken up".
It clearly says:
[9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
[10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
[11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in LIKE MANNER
AS ye have SEEN him GO INTO heaven.

ln all of the NT scriptures, concerning Jesus' Glorious manifestation from Heaven, no where does it ever say that Jesus shall descend to the earth.

There you go! Jesus will return to Israel and FIGHT for Israel!

 

[Earburner]

There you go! Jesus will return to Israel and FIGHT for Israel!

Why would Jesus fight for the nation of Israel, when they STILL don't believe in Him?
Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is condemned already. John 3:18

 

[Jack]

Why would Jesus fight for the nation of Israel, when they STILL don't believe in Him?
Anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is condemned. John 3:18

Why? Because He said He would.

Zechariah 14
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

 

[Earburner]

Why? Because He said He would.

Zechariah 14
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

Not all of Zech. 14 is fulfilled in the 3rd manifestation of Jesus, His visible and Glorious Immortality.

Have you forgotten that in Jesus' 1st manifestation, He showed how He wages war, by what He accomplished through His death and resurrection and was glorified? John 7:39. Though most of Israel is lost, a remnant out of each generation is saved through faith in Jesus. Wasn't the battle against Him raging, while being in the flesh?

Is the day of Pentecost, the 2nd manifestation of Jesus, still not functional, whereby He still is knocking on people's doors (their hearts), looking to be invited into all that are "called" (Rev. 3:20), attempting to steal them away as a thief from satan? The battle for Jesus, is still raging ....as well as for us also. Eph. 6:12.

In the 3rd manifestation of Jesus, in all His Glory, redemption will be for all born again believers, but destruction for all unbelievers. It will be a simultaneous event. Luke 17:28-30; 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
It will be Jesus' final battle, whereby the goats will have taken the "mark", and the sheep will have refused to take it. In that last moment of time, when the sheep and the goats will have been effectually and effectively separated, God will send His Son "in flaming fire" for all His Saints.

 

[Truth7t7]

Nope. The mystery of Babylon the Great is the New Testament congregation of Isreal, the Church, who have forsaken God and have gone whoring where Satan sits *rule" where he wanted to worship as God. Not a physical city of Rome, New York, or Jerusalem.

(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

The Levitical High Priest Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below

(Revelation) 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Yes "The Woman", The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones

(Exodus) 28:15-20KJV
15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it.
16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof.
17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.

(Jerusalem) is the seven Mount city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

(Revelation) 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

(Revelation) 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

(Matthew) 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Jerusalem (The Woman) that (Great City) as seen below, Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified

(Revelation) 17:18AKJV
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

(Revelation) 11:8AKJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jews/Hebrews cast dust upon their heads, weeping for the (Great City) Jerusalem

(Revelation) 18:19 AKJV
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

 

[Earburner]

(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

The Levitical High Priest Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below

(Revelation) 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Yes "The Woman", The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones

(Exodus) 28:15-20KJV
15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it.
16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof.
17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.

(Jerusalem) is the seven Mount city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

(Revelation) 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

(Revelation) 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

(Matthew) 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Jerusalem (The Woman) that (Great City) as seen below, Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified

(Revelation) 17:18AKJV
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

(Revelation) 11:8AKJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jews/Hebrews cast dust upon their heads, weeping for the (Great City) Jerusalem

(Revelation) 18:19 AKJV
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

In all of NT scripture, there are only two prophetic mothers being revealed. The one below is fallen (earthly Jerusalem), and the one above is free (heavenly Jerusalem). Gal. 4:21-31.
Earthly Jerusalem is "the daughter of Zion".
Heavenly Jeruselem is Zion, "the mother of us all". The "daughter" is the mother of all contention, aka "Mystery, Babylon the Great, the MOTHER OF harlots".

 

[Timtofly]

In KJV-Acts 1:9-11, it doesn't say anything about from where Jesus was "taken up", but rather HOW He was "taken up".
It clearly says:
[9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
[10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
[11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in LIKE MANNER
AS ye have SEEN him GO INTO heaven.

ln all of the NT scriptures, concerning Jesus' Glorious manifestation from Heaven, no where does it ever say that Jesus shall descend to the earth.

Did Jesus leave on a white horse?

Did Jesus leave when his feet were on the mount of Olives?

"And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east."

Zechariah 14:4

Why do you need Scripture to show this is already fulfilled, when it has not been fulfilled to this day? Acts 1 is how Jesus left. Jesus has not returned yet. There is no Scripture pointing to that already being fulfilled in the past. Don't you need to prove that point of a past fulfillment from Scripture?

 

[Truth7t7]

Did Jesus leave on a white horse?

Did Jesus leave when his feet were on the mount of Olives?

"And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east."

Zechariah 14:4

Why do you need Scripture to show this is already fulfilled, when it has not been fulfilled to this day? Acts 1 is how Jesus left. Jesus has not returned yet. There is no Scripture pointing to that already being fulfilled in the past. Don't you need to prove that point of a past fulfillment from Scripture?

"Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom"

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire and final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

 

[Timtofly]

"Zechariah 14 Is The Eternal Kingdom"

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire and final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

That did not answer the question. Your verses backed up my post.

 

[Truth7t7]

That did not answer the question. Your verses backed up my post.

Yes, when Jesus returns to the Mt. of Olives its "Fire Time" The End

 

[Earburner]

I gave you the scriptures (post #181), whereby reveals that Jesus' FEET DID STAND ON Mount Olive already , in both the afternoons and during the nights.
In the mornings, He would then arise from His sleep, "stand" and then "walk" to go to Jerusalem from the mount of Olive, where was HIS ABODE (dwelling place).
But you and many others deny it, for the sake of keeping the assumed religious narrative, that Jesus will descend to the earth and stand on the earth again. That is NOT going to happen.

I repeat: nowhere in the NT scriptures does it say or imply that Jesus will stand on the surface of the earth in the day of His visible and Glorious return!

 

[Jack]

Not all of Zech. 14 is fulfilled in the 3rd manifestation of Jesus, His visible and Glorious Immortality.

Have you forgotten that in Jesus' 1st manifestation, He showed how He wages war, by what He accomplished through His death and resurrection and was glorified? John 7:39. Though most of Israel is lost, a remnant out of each generation is saved through faith in Jesus. Wasn't the battle against Him raging, while being in the flesh?

Is the day of Pentecost, the 2nd manifestation of Jesus, still not functional, whereby He still is knocking on people's doors (their hearts), looking to be invited into all that are "called" (Rev. 3:20), attempting to steal them away as a thief from satan? The battle for Jesus, is still raging ....as well as for us also. Eph. 6:12.

In the 3rd manifestation of Jesus, in all His Glory, redemption will be for all born again believers, but destruction for all unbelievers. It will be a simultaneous event. Luke 17:28-30; 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
It will be Jesus' final battle, whereby the goats will have taken the "mark", and the sheep will have refused to take it. In that last moment of time, when the sheep and the goats will have been effectually and effectively separated, God will send His Son "in flaming fire" for all His Saints.

It clearly says He will return to Israel. That's all that matters to me.

 

[Truth7t7]

I gave you the scriptures (post #181), whereby reveals that Jesus' FEET DID STAND ON Mount Olive already , in both the afternoons and during the nights.
In the mornings, He would then arise from His sleep, "stand" and then "walk" to go to Jerusalem from the mount of Olive, where was HIS ABODE (dwelling place).
But you and many others deny it, for the sake of keeping the assumed religious narrative, that Jesus will descend to the earth and stand on the earth again. That is NOT going to happen.

I repeat: nowhere in the NT scriptures does it say or imply that Jesus will stand on the surface of the earth in the day of His visible and Glorious return!

I Disagree, Jesus will literally place his eternal glorified feet on the earthly Mount of Olives, this is the point where the corrupt mortal physical earth is dissolved by fire "In The Twinkling Of An Eye" mortal becomes immortal, just as post #191 above explains, it's at this time the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem takes place, "Eternity" begins in the blink of an eye

Zechariah 14:1&12 is the very same (Day Of The Lord) as seen in 2 Peter 3:10 below, the very same second coming and fire that consumes man and the earth (The End)

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

1 Corinthians 15:52-54KJV
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[ewq1938]

But you and many others deny it, for the sake of keeping the assumed religious narrative, that Jesus will descend to the earth and stand on the earth again. That is NOT going to happen.

After the second coming is completed, Jesus will stand upon the Earth (Rev 14:1) and in fact live here forever, Rev 21-22.

 

[Timtofly]

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

"And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

"For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken,"

Two completely different locations. 2 totally different reasons. Zechariah 14 is an attack against God at Jerusalem. Armageddon in Revelation 16 is God attacking at the Hill of Megiddo.

 

[Timtofly]

Yes, when Jesus returns to the Mt. of Olives its "Fire Time" The End

I agree, but not Armageddon 42 months after the baptism of fire.

The Mount of Megiddo is not the Mount of Olives.

 

[Timtofly]

I gave you the scriptures (post #181), whereby reveals that Jesus' FEET DID STAND ON Mount Olive already , in both the afternoons and during the nights.
In the mornings, He would then arise from His sleep, "stand" and then "walk" to go to Jerusalem from the mount of Olive, where was HIS ABODE (dwelling place).
But you and many others deny it, for the sake of keeping the assumed religious narrative, that Jesus will descend to the earth and stand on the earth again. That is NOT going to happen.

I repeat: nowhere in the NT scriptures does it say or imply that Jesus will stand on the surface of the earth in the day of His visible and Glorious return!

Obviously He is already sitting on a throne in Jerusalem after touching down on the Mount of Olives. Jesus does not have to repeat every detail all the time in Scripture.