It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

[WPM]

Forget it.
Just walk away.
This thread is sinful.
It is prideful and contentious.
It is a reproach on the name of Christ whom ALL YA'LL claim to serve.
Pre, mid or post...all ya'll have degraded into contentious bickering.
Shame.
Stop it please. For the sake of our Savior.

What about your ad hominem? You refuse to deal with the biblical issues.

 

[WPM]

OK, Here's how you started the first post...

As I have said....the truth of the pre-tribulation rapture is alive and well.

I have asked simple biblical questions throughout this thread and all i get is avoidance, and insults.

 

[WPM]

OK, Here's how you started the first post...

As I have said....the truth of the pre-tribulation rapture is alive and well.

Read it again, and you will see that that was my conclusion after a long in-depth discussion with Pretribs that was full of avoidance and insults. None could show a rapture passage that taught a trib following it or a trib passage followed by a 3rd coming. This thread is the same as that thread. That is because this is false teaching.

 

[CrowCross]

I have asked simple biblical questions throughout this thread and all i get is avoidance, and insults.

LOL....SERIOUSLY DUDE?

All you get is avoidance and insults?

When I posted about the White horse, social economical aspects of Noahs day, christians not destined for wrath...and others....I AVOIDED YOU? Yet you had the gall to say all you get is avoidance and insults?

Just for the record...OTHERS have replied to you and not avoided you.

 

[CrowCross]

Read it again, and you will see that that was my conclusion after a long in-depth discussion with Pretribs that was full of avoidance and insults. None could show a rapture passage that taught a trib following it. Or a trib passage followed by a 3rd coming. This thread is the same on this thread.

LOL.....if you say so.

NEXT

 

[WPM]

LOL....SERIOUSLY DUDE?

All you get is avoidance and insults?

When I posted about the White horse, social economical aspects of Noahs day, christians not destined for wrath...and others....I AVOIDED YOU? Yet you had the gall to say all you get is avoidance and insults?

Just for the record...OTHERS have replied to you and not avoided you.

Are you for real? You present symbolism in Revelation (the most figurative book in the Bible) as hyper-literal, and then insist on me showing literal corroboration for it elsewhere in Scripture. I then exposed your reasoning by asking you to show a white horse in your supposed support passages for a 3rd coming and you couldn't. Hello! You hung on your gallows. This is the typic duplicity and pettiness that Posttribbers have to deal with every day. Your whole argument blew up in your face. This is what comes with debating most Pretribbers. I will ask again:

1. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Thessalonians 2:3? If you can't then you must retract.
2. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Timothy 6:1? If you can't then you must retract.
3. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Timothy 4:1? If you can't then you must retract.
4. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Timothy 4:8? If you can't then you must retract.
5. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Titus 2:13? If you can't then you must retract.
6. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Hebrews 9:28? If you can't then you must retract.
7. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in James 5:7-9? If you can't then you must retract.
8. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Peter 1:7? If you can't then you must retract.
9. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Peter 5:4? If you can't then you must retract.
10. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 John 2:28-3:2? If you can't then you must retract.
11. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Jude 21? If you can't then you must retract.
12. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Revelation 2:25? If you can't then you must retract.
13. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Revelation 3:10? If you can't then you must retract.

 

[WPM]

LOL.....if you say so.

NEXT

LOL. That sums up your biblical support.

 

[CrowCross]

Are you for real? You present symbolism in Revelation (the most figurative book in the Bible) as hyper-literal, and then insist on me showing literal corroboration for it elsewhere in Scripture. I then exposed your reasoning by asking you to show a white horse in your supposed support passages for a 3rd coming and you couldn't. Hello! You hung on your gallows. This is the typic duplicity and pettiness that Posttribbers have to deal with every day. Your whole argument blew up in your face. This is what comes with debating most Pretribbers. I will ask again:

1. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Thessalonians 2:3? If you can't then you must retract.
2. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Timothy 6:1? If you can't then you must retract.
3. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Timothy 4:1? If you can't then you must retract.
4. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 2 Timothy 4:8? If you can't then you must retract.
5. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Titus 2:13? If you can't then you must retract.
6. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Hebrews 9:28? If you can't then you must retract.
7. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in James 5:7-9? If you can't then you must retract.
8. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Peter 1:7? If you can't then you must retract.
9. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 Peter 5:4? If you can't then you must retract.
10. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in 1 John 2:28-3:2? If you can't then you must retract.
11. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Jude 21? If you can't then you must retract.
12. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Revelation 2:25? If you can't then you must retract.
13. Show me where Jesus left on a white horse in Revelation 3:10? If you can't then you must retract.

I pretty much ignored this post. It's been addressed and not avoided...as you claimed... If you would like you can read the replies if you go back in time in this thread.

Then you post...."Hello! You hung on your gallows.".....You're warped my friend...warped.
Judging from your post....fruit....I have to wonder if you're really a christian and not a troll. I'm leaning towards troll.

 

[WPM]

I pretty much ignored this post. It's been addressed and not avoided...as you claimed... If you would like you can read the replies if you go back in time in this thread.

Then you post...."Hello! You hung on your gallows.".....You're warped my friend...warped.
Judging from your post....fruit....I have to wonder if you're really a christian and not a troll. I'm leaning towards troll.

When did you answer it? Give us the post.

 

[CrowCross]

When did you answer it? Give us the post.

I'm not really interested in re-hashing it. You didn't pay attention the first several times. What makes me think you'll pay attention this time?

 

[The Light]

I'm not really interested in re-hashing it. You didn't pay attention the first several times. What makes me think you'll pay attention this time?

LOL. This is nothing new. You could answer him 1000 times and he would claim avoidance.

He knows he has nothing but hopes that someone might fall for this nonsense.

Basically, he is Biblically illiterate and can only claim that you have avoided him.

He is not a troll. He does his best to protect a fallen doctrine despite what the scriptures say.

Not a seeker of truth, but a protector of a false doctrine.

 

[WPM]

I'm not really interested in re-hashing it. You didn't pay attention the first several times. What makes me think you'll pay attention this time?

Yea right! LOL. You know you are not telling the truth. Are you not convicted?

 

[WPM]

LOL. This is nothing new. You could answer him 1000 times and he would claim avoidance.

He knows he has nothing but hopes that someone might fall for this nonsense.

Basically, he is Biblically illiterate and can only claim that you have avoided him.

He is not a troll. He does his best to protect a fallen doctrine despite what the scriptures say.

Not a seeker of truth, but a protector of a false doctrine.

LOL. Projection! All noise! You are describing you and Pretrib.

You cannot present one Scripture that shows a rapture of the Church followed by a 7 yr trib followed a 3rd coming.

 

[The Light]

I'm not really interested in re-hashing it. You didn't pay attention the first several times. What makes me think you'll pay attention this time?

In the search bar above type in the word AVOIDING and under member type WPM and have a good laugh.

It's his MO. He has reduced himself to the bottom of the barrel, claiming avoidance as his only weapon, despite the facts. LOL.

It's all he's got and as you know it is false.

 

[WHO ME]

No. You deem them believers. They are not. Do you have to be a virgin to be a Christian? Do you have to be a virgin to make the rapture? Do you have to be a literal virgin with a literal lamp with literal oil in it to make the rapture? Are there only five virgins that make the rapture?

Your reasoning is ridiculous.

This is an earthly illustration about preparedness/unpreparedness. That is the message.

Since Jesus is coming for His bride only believers would be considered virgins.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Since Jesus is coming for His bride only believers would be considered virgins.

Do you believe the BODY OF CHRIST is the bride of Christ ?
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The Bride of Christ - doctrine.org

Introduction Most churches in Christendom teach the Church is the “bride of Christ.” But the phrase “bride of Christ” does not occur in the Bible. Furthermore, the imagery of the Church as bride is thin at best. The goal of…

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[WPM]

In the search bar above type in the word AVOIDING and under member type WPM and have a good laugh.

It's his MO. He has reduced himself to the bottom of the barrel, claiming avoidance as his only weapon, despite the facts. LOL.

It's all he's got and as you know it is false.

Lol. This all you can do is run. Your doctrine has been exposed as extra-biblical. You have nothing to bring to the table. If you had you would.

The stages when engaging with Pretribs are (1) avoidance (2) ad hominem and (3) run for the exit.

This is such a one-sided debate. Not one single Pretriber can land a punch on Posttrib. They have nothing. That is why they cannot produce anything, answer simple questions, insult, avoid and run.

 

[WPM]

Since Jesus is coming for His bride only believers would be considered virgins.

This is talking about natural virgins. It is a parable. It is an earthly story with a heavenly meaning. It is talking about preparedness. That is it.

 

[The Light]

I'm not really interested in re-hashing it. You didn't pay attention the first several times. What makes me think you'll pay attention this time?

You can also type in AVOIDANCE and member name WPM and you get another 10 pages of avoidance claims. They only keep 10 pages on each search term so no telling how many claims he has made. This is all he has as he is scripturally illiterate.

I suspect about half his posts are claims that everyone is avoiding him. LOL.

Total waste of time.

 

[WPM]

You can also type in AVOIDANCE and member name WPM and you get another 10 pages of avoidance claims. They only keep 10 pages on each search term so no telling how many claims he has made. This is all he has as he is scripturally illiterate.

I suspect about half his posts are claims that everyone is avoiding him. LOL.

Total was of time.

LOL. And you continue avoiding... You have to. Your doctrine is an extra-biblical Jesuit invention.