The errors of Calvinism and you should know better. God's sovereignty is not threatened by man's free will, as the Calvinist would have you believe.aspen said:
Jesus’ narrow way is opposed to the cheap grace way
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In His sovereignty, God chose to have His "chosen people" in the OTaspen said:
reject Him, rebel against Him, be disobedient, and many other things?
Hmmmmm, guess He forgot how to program His robots for 1500 years.
Oh well, nobody's perfect, I guess.
In His sovereignty, God chose to have His "chosen people" in the OT
to not be robots, and with 100% certainty knew that they would freely
reject Him, rebel against Him, be disobedient, and many other things.
He didn't make robots. No one says robots.
He made humans in His image.
to not be robots, and with 100% certainty knew that they would freely
reject Him, rebel against Him, be disobedient, and many other things.
He didn't make robots. No one says robots.
He made humans in His image.
Nomad
Post Tenebras Lux
There's an element of truth to your statement. How so? Glad you asked.evangelist-7 said:
Deu 29:1 These are the words of the covenant that the LORD commanded Moses to make with the people of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant that he had made with them at Horeb.
Deu 29:2 And Moses summoned all Israel and said to them: "You have seen all that the LORD did before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land,
Deu 29:3 the great trials that your eyes saw, the signs, and those great wonders.
Deu 29:4 But to this day the LORD has not given you a heart to understand or eyes to see or ears to hear.
Does this state of affairs only apply to Israel? No. Original Sin/Corruption effects all of mankind.
Rom 3:9 What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,
Rom 3:10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;
Rom 3:11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.
Aspen says: Mans will is nothing compared to the sovereignty of GodTex said:
Aspen says: Man's free will is nothing (useless)
Aspen says: robots
Aspen says: nonsense
You're putting words in Aspen's mouth. I can promise you that's not at all what he's saying.evangelist-7 said:
When a quality complex product is being engineered, it requires exacting specifications and details that must be fulfilled in order for it to work properly. Likewise of the measuring up to being among the "few" who will find "life" requires that they measure up to God's holy (high) standards.(Matt 7:14) Most who profess to be "Christian" never delve into the details of what is required to gain God's favor, but just "beat around the bush". Some use the cliche "Believe on the Lord and you will be saved" to support their ideology.
Jesus established that the vast majority of mankind will soon perish, saying: "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it."(Matt 7:13, 14)
This vast majority includes the churches of Christendom, for they are the ones that have told falsehoods about our Maker, Jehovah God, with such erroneous doctrines as the Trinity (supposedly God is three persons in a "Godhead"), hellfire (making God to be a fiend who burns wicked people everlastingly for their sins), immortality of the soul (saying that this is "something" that separates from the body when we die), profaning God's name of Jehovah by either making snide remarks about it (that since we do not know the correct pronunciation, we should stick to "God" or "Lord" ) or hiding it from others (as the translators of various Bibles have done by supplanting Jehovah with "God" or "Lord"), of creating a clergy class that elevates itself above the common people (using such titles as "Reverend", Monsignor [meaning "my lord"], Pope (meaning "papa", etc), making themselves "a god".(2 Thess 2:4), use of the cross.
Jesus pointed out that there would be those who would even be very religious in our day and say: "Many will say to me in that (or our time period) day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name ?’ " (Matt 7:22) But instead of praising them for their so-called "Christian" activities, rather Jesus says: "And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you ! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness !’ "(Matt 7:23) Jesus sternly condemned them. Why ?
Because these set their own personal "Christian" course, establishing their own teachings (even when from pagan sources) or making Christianity like a buffet, choose what they want and throw the rest away. For example holidays. How much effort does it take to recognize that Christmas is not based on the Bible or that Easter has a pagan origin or that Halloween delves into the wicked spirit realm ?
In reality, not that much, but many keep on celebrating them without question because they reason that Christmas is "a good time for families to get together" (and "everybody else among the churches is celebrating it") or that at Easter, they can wear some new clothes to church or that Halloween is just "fun time".
These perhaps never sit down and reflect on 2 Corinthians 6, that says: "Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have ? Or what sharing does light have with darkness ?" (2 Cor 6:14) These never seriously think about Paul's words: "Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing ’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” (2 Cor 6:17)
These do not give serious thought to what pleases God, what is "righteous" as opposed to what is "lawless". These do not somberly look for information that shows the pagan origin of Christmas (of it being a Roman celebration called Saturnalia [from December 17-24] and that December 25 was the day the Romans celebrated the birthday of Mithra [Persian god of light] as the "invincible sun"), that the day of Jesus birth is not mentioned in the Bible (but that the Bible gives highlight to "the day of one's death" at Ecc 7:1), as well thinking carefully about Easter as to why it has rabbits and eggs (as well as recognizing that Jesus taught his disciples to observe his death, not birth nor resurrection, Luke 22:19, 20; 1 Cor 11:24-26) or that Halloween is a day (or night) that brings out "witches and ghosts and goblins" and say: "Hey, these all have pagan origins and I need to get rid of any association with them."
Thus, Jesus, in telling his genuine disciples to be "no part of the world" (John 15:19, having three main entities - 1 - false religion, 2 - greedy commercialism, 3 - and dirty politics)", says to these so-called "Christians": "Why, then, do you call me ‘Lord ! Lord !’ but do not do the things I say ?"(Luke 6:46) Thence, only a "few" are willing to clear away all false religious doctrines, to be free of greed and have no participation in the political arena, "bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ."(2 Cor 10:5)
Jesus established that the vast majority of mankind will soon perish, saying: "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it."(Matt 7:13, 14)
This vast majority includes the churches of Christendom, for they are the ones that have told falsehoods about our Maker, Jehovah God, with such erroneous doctrines as the Trinity (supposedly God is three persons in a "Godhead"), hellfire (making God to be a fiend who burns wicked people everlastingly for their sins), immortality of the soul (saying that this is "something" that separates from the body when we die), profaning God's name of Jehovah by either making snide remarks about it (that since we do not know the correct pronunciation, we should stick to "God" or "Lord" ) or hiding it from others (as the translators of various Bibles have done by supplanting Jehovah with "God" or "Lord"), of creating a clergy class that elevates itself above the common people (using such titles as "Reverend", Monsignor [meaning "my lord"], Pope (meaning "papa", etc), making themselves "a god".(2 Thess 2:4), use of the cross.
Jesus pointed out that there would be those who would even be very religious in our day and say: "Many will say to me in that (or our time period) day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name ?’ " (Matt 7:22) But instead of praising them for their so-called "Christian" activities, rather Jesus says: "And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you ! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness !’ "(Matt 7:23) Jesus sternly condemned them. Why ?
Because these set their own personal "Christian" course, establishing their own teachings (even when from pagan sources) or making Christianity like a buffet, choose what they want and throw the rest away. For example holidays. How much effort does it take to recognize that Christmas is not based on the Bible or that Easter has a pagan origin or that Halloween delves into the wicked spirit realm ?
In reality, not that much, but many keep on celebrating them without question because they reason that Christmas is "a good time for families to get together" (and "everybody else among the churches is celebrating it") or that at Easter, they can wear some new clothes to church or that Halloween is just "fun time".
These perhaps never sit down and reflect on 2 Corinthians 6, that says: "Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have ? Or what sharing does light have with darkness ?" (2 Cor 6:14) These never seriously think about Paul's words: "Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing ’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” (2 Cor 6:17)
These do not give serious thought to what pleases God, what is "righteous" as opposed to what is "lawless". These do not somberly look for information that shows the pagan origin of Christmas (of it being a Roman celebration called Saturnalia [from December 17-24] and that December 25 was the day the Romans celebrated the birthday of Mithra [Persian god of light] as the "invincible sun"), that the day of Jesus birth is not mentioned in the Bible (but that the Bible gives highlight to "the day of one's death" at Ecc 7:1), as well thinking carefully about Easter as to why it has rabbits and eggs (as well as recognizing that Jesus taught his disciples to observe his death, not birth nor resurrection, Luke 22:19, 20; 1 Cor 11:24-26) or that Halloween is a day (or night) that brings out "witches and ghosts and goblins" and say: "Hey, these all have pagan origins and I need to get rid of any association with them."
Thus, Jesus, in telling his genuine disciples to be "no part of the world" (John 15:19, having three main entities - 1 - false religion, 2 - greedy commercialism, 3 - and dirty politics)", says to these so-called "Christians": "Why, then, do you call me ‘Lord ! Lord !’ but do not do the things I say ?"(Luke 6:46) Thence, only a "few" are willing to clear away all false religious doctrines, to be free of greed and have no participation in the political arena, "bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ."(2 Cor 10:5)
Go and talk to others about the love of God and what He has done for us in Jesus Christ his Son like you have been told to do!!
You who point your dirty little fingers at everyone else who you say supposedly call themselves Christians You and others like you comfortable in your own righteousness smelling like rotten flesh posturing pious vultures!
Oh what a duty you preform for your god you truly holy vipers shining your righteous judgments directly in to the eyes of us, a stumbling block you are, a heavy stone attached to our ankles as we try to walk. Many woes you build against us but it is the Lord God Himself who judges your actions, he knows your heart and he see's all your inequity.
YOU HYPOCRITES!!!
Put to death your Sin!!!
Pick up your cross!!!
The day of the Lord is fast approaching and will come like a thief in the night, and you will be left without an excuse.
To those of us including myself who GLADLY Call ourselves Christian, Love for the Lord is focusing on Jesus and turning from sin daily, everyday a struggle against the flesh and a rejoicing in your heart for every pain and every crushed idol because we know that our reward is great. Dont let any man here or in the world tell you what kind of Christian you are.
You are Loved by the Lord, Go to Church, sing and pray with your whole heart, let not the rebuke of man steel your joy.
You are loved by God and you have been found clean in the sanctifying blood of our Savoir. Listen to the words of the apostles and take to heart every LITERAL word and apply it daily. Find strength in the power of the Word in the power of the Spirit and continue your walk BEING CONFIDENT IN THE PROMISES OF GOD AND THE HOPE THAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO YOU!!!
Hallelujah God is good and his promises are true!!!
Matthew 5:11-16
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
You who point your dirty little fingers at everyone else who you say supposedly call themselves Christians You and others like you comfortable in your own righteousness smelling like rotten flesh posturing pious vultures!
Oh what a duty you preform for your god you truly holy vipers shining your righteous judgments directly in to the eyes of us, a stumbling block you are, a heavy stone attached to our ankles as we try to walk. Many woes you build against us but it is the Lord God Himself who judges your actions, he knows your heart and he see's all your inequity.
YOU HYPOCRITES!!!
Put to death your Sin!!!
Pick up your cross!!!
The day of the Lord is fast approaching and will come like a thief in the night, and you will be left without an excuse.
To those of us including myself who GLADLY Call ourselves Christian, Love for the Lord is focusing on Jesus and turning from sin daily, everyday a struggle against the flesh and a rejoicing in your heart for every pain and every crushed idol because we know that our reward is great. Dont let any man here or in the world tell you what kind of Christian you are.
You are Loved by the Lord, Go to Church, sing and pray with your whole heart, let not the rebuke of man steel your joy.
You are loved by God and you have been found clean in the sanctifying blood of our Savoir. Listen to the words of the apostles and take to heart every LITERAL word and apply it daily. Find strength in the power of the Word in the power of the Spirit and continue your walk BEING CONFIDENT IN THE PROMISES OF GOD AND THE HOPE THAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO YOU!!!
Hallelujah God is good and his promises are true!!!
Matthew 5:11-16
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Brother Madad handled that one, RANDOR no need to get 'jacked up,' or was it 'pumped up'?RANDOR said:I don't know about anyone else.....but that.......PUMPED ME UP
Old Jack that agapes the Godman Jesus and the Trinity and such a great salvation and the Cross --- we agape you too Guestman, and praying for you sir.
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