Perhaps according to your faith, but then what does God say?It should be.
"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2
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Perhaps according to your faith, but then what does God say?It should be.
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be DeceivedBesides relying on Peter's letter, what are the proof texts to show that what John described as a millenial reign of Christ is not a literal one-thousand years?
By all means share your belief?My belief is not only different from that of the Catholics, but probably that of most Protestants as well.
There’s a reign in heaven followed by the reign and permanent residence of Jesus on the earth.2 Corinthians 5:8KJV
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Jesus Christ Currently Reigns, Those Who Die In Christ, Are Present With Him In This Reign
1 Corinthians 15:25KJV
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
The church fathers weren't all literal Millennialist, many believed in the second coming (Eternal Kingdom)There’s a reign in heaven followed by the reign and permanent residence of Jesus on the earth.
I remind you that the entire church and all apostolic fathers such as Ignatius and polycarp, were 100% premillennialist for the first 300 years of the existence of the church, so your interpretation would be soundly rejected by the entire church for a 3 full centuries, had you lived then.
All that you've cited supports a literal thousand year reign of Christ on physical planet Earth.Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived
Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?
1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?
The Above Claims (Don't Exist)
Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ
100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time
2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)There’s a reign in heaven followed by the reign and permanent residence of Jesus on the earth.
I remind you that the entire church and all apostolic fathers such as Ignatius and polycarp, were 100% premillennialist for the first 300 years of the existence of the church, so your interpretation would be soundly rejected by the entire church for a 3 full centuries, had you lived then.
Smiles, minus a literal earth and mortal humans, because they are non-existent in Revelation 20:1-6All that you've cited supports a literal thousand year reign of Christ on physical planet Earth.
But all you've been doing is giving your own private interpretation. Why are you right and all who believe in a literal thousand years wrong?Smiles, minus a literal earth and mortal humans, because they are non-existent in Revelation 20:1-6
A literal 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth, is a fabricated fairy tale of man
Just as post #228 above shows,at the return of Jesus Christ, (Then Cometh The End) not a Millennial Kingdom
You can believe as you like, people believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, dosent make them a realityBut all you've been doing is giving your own private interpretation. Why are you right and all who believe in a literal thousand years wrong?
No need to go to pagan ideas,re Santa and the tooth fairy. That's a tell that you're not very confident in your position. Keep on topic. God promised Israel a land it has yet to fully possess. God keeps HIS promises and that land is on this earth. The thousand years is part of God's plan to fulfill the promises HE made log ago, which means it will be on this earth.You can believe as you like, people believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, dosent make them a reality
A Literal 1,000 Year Kingdom On This Earth, With Mortal Humans Present, Is Found No Place In Scripture
You teach (Dual Covenant Theology) in (Two Peoples Of God) Israel/ChurchNo need to go to pagan ideas,re Santa and the tooth fairy. That's a tell that you're not very confident in your position. Keep on topic. God promised Israel a land it has yet to fully possess. God keeps HIS promises and that land is on this earth. The thousand years is part of God's plan to fulfill the promises HE made log ago, which means it will be on this earth.
Hi @LTJMP14 ; one argument which I have heard, used to try to undermine a real, literal millennium is that because "the cattle on a thousand hills" Psalm 50.10 uses the word 'thousand', therefore this supposedly proves that the millennium is not on earth (a far fetched argument, IMHO)....No need to go to pagan ideas,re Santa and the tooth fairy. That's a tell that you're not very confident in your position. Keep on topic. God promised Israel a land it has yet to fully possess. God keeps HIS promises and that land is on this earth. The thousand years is part of God's plan to fulfill the promises HE made log ago, which means it will be on this earth.
I don't see the church in the Old Testament; it started in the NT, in Acts 2.You teach (Dual Covenant Theology) in (Two Peoples Of God) Israel/Church
There Is one covenant between God and man, the shed blood upon Calvary, period
All the promises and covenants made to Abraham, were fulfilled in Jesus Christ
Galatians 3:16KJV
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
The Church Is The Israel Of God, The Twelve Tribes Scattered Abroad
James 1:1KJV
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
No. God's promises to Israel are still in effect and will be fulfilled. The 144,000 are literal Jews as are the two witnesses, and the church is the Body of Christ consisting of both Jews and Gentiles.You teach (Dual Covenant Theology) in (Two Peoples Of God) Israel/Church
There Is one covenant between God and man, the shed blood upon Calvary, period
All the promises and covenants made to Abraham, were fulfilled in Jesus Christ
Galatians 3:16KJV
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
The Church Is The Israel Of God, The Twelve Tribes Scattered Abroad
James 1:1KJV
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
@LTJMP14 In the end, the difference between Israel and the church in Scripture is indeed of significance in terms of Scripture interpretation.No. God's promises to Israel are still in effect and will be fulfilled. The 144,000 are literal Jews as are the two witnesses, and the church is the Body of Christ consisting of both Jews and Gentiles.
The fact is 2 Peter 3:8 was given to man, so they can understand the (Thousand Years) In Revelation 20Hi @LTJMP14 ; one argument which I have heard, used to try to undermine a real, literal millennium is that because "the cattle on a thousand hills" Psalm 50.10 uses the word 'thousand', therefore this supposedly proves that the millennium is not on earth (a far fetched argument, IMHO)....
The 144,000 represents (The Church) those that are called, chosen, and sealed by the Holy Spirit, and added to the Church on earth during the tribulationNo. God's promises to Israel are still in effect and will be fulfilled. The 144,000 are literal Jews as are the two witnesses, and the church is the Body of Christ consisting of both Jews and Gentiles.
It's all being 'reserved'. as the context shows; God is patient in His plans. The verse does not mean that any time the word 'thousand' is used in Scripture it doesn't really refer to anything specific, time-wise. It doesn't mean that suddenly 'nothing means anything and anything means nothing' supposedly overrules the literal sense.The fact is 2 Peter 3:8 was given to man, so they can understand the (Thousand Years) In Revelation 20
The Lords realm is "Eternal" void of literal earthly time, Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lordseternal spiritual Angel,Heaven, Devil,Satan, The Souls,The Dead, God, Christ
It's that simple
2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.