Learning about Orthodoxy

[Big Boy Johnson]

the Seventh Day Adventists with the same claim

But, Barney Fife claims the Seventh Day Adventists do not believe one has to belong to their cult, uh I mean church, in order to be saved and go to Heaven

 

[Jesus Wept]

I have biblical reasons for not being orthodox myself, and I seriously considered it. That being said, I listen to several Orthodox priests regularly, and have been greatly blessed by their ministries.

Here's a couple videos for those who are interested.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I listen to several Orthodox priests regularly

Well that explains a lot.

Sitting under false doctrine willingly is quite the feat!

 

[David in NJ]

But, Barney Fife claims the Seventh Day Adventists do not believe one has to belong to their cult, uh I mean church, in order to be saved and go to Heaven

SDA believe that if you worship on Sunday you are in dire SIN and are acting as an accomplice to RCC/Vatican

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

SDA believe that if you worship on Sunday you are in dire SIN and are acting as an accomplice to RCC/Vatican

Yeah I think Barney Fife told everyone about that

 

[David in NJ]

Yeah I think Barney Fife told everyone about that

i love @BarneyFife and @Brakelite

Currently they just cannot see that the Word that was God, Him who created all things for His pleasure and His Purpose,
is GREATER then Solomon, the Temple and the sabbath.

One Day they will SEE Him in Glory and then they will know!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

One Day they will SEE Him in Glory

The Lord will make that call and determine if the false teaching they espouse is salvation critical or not.

It's not looking good as SDAs seem to be trying to walk in portions of the old covenant that Jesus took away and is no longer in effect having been replaced by the New Covenant and the Doctrine of Christ

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Apparently the so called "orthodox" church believes anyone that is not a member of the so called "orthodox" church is dammed to hell because they believe their denomination is the only true "church"

So for those that have not joined the so called "orthodox" church, you are on your way to hell!

Yeah that does not sound like most Orthodox I have met or read. It is funny however this actually reflects your opinion of me in your first post. Perhaps there is a bit of Projection going on? At any rate why not get things from the horse's mouth rather than some guy looking to poison the well?

"Separated Brethren" is the more regular view in not just the Eastern Churches and Communion, but even in Catholicism since Vatican II.

I could not find a short little video on YouTube so decided to use Grok to analyze and found this confirmation in its conclusion statement.

Conclusion​

Eastern Orthodoxy views Traditional Protestants and Radical Reformation groups as separated brethren who possess elements of Christian truth but lack the fullness of the Church’s sacramental and apostolic life. While salvation is possible for non-Orthodox Christians through God’s mercy, Orthodoxy teaches that the surest path to salvation is within its communion. The degree of divergence (less for Traditional Protestants, greater for Radical Reformation groups) influences how Orthodoxy perceives their spiritual status, but ultimate judgment is left to God. For further reading, authoritative Orthodox sources include The Orthodox Church by Kallistos Ware or statements from the Orthodox Faith and Order Commission in ecumenical dialogues.

 

[David in NJ]

Yeah that does not sound like most Orthodox I have met or read. It is funny however this actually reflects your opinion of me in your first post. Perhaps there is a bit of Projection going on? At any rate why not get things from the horse's mouth rather than some guy looking to poison the well?

"Separated Brethren" is the more regular view in not just the Eastern Churches and Communion, but even in Catholicism since Vatican II.

I could not find a short little video on YouTube so decided to use Grok to analyze and found this confirmation in its conclusion statement.

Conclusion​

Eastern Orthodoxy views Traditional Protestants and Radical Reformation groups as separated brethren who possess elements of Christian truth but lack the fullness of the Church’s sacramental and apostolic life. While salvation is possible for non-Orthodox Christians through God’s mercy, Orthodoxy teaches that the surest path to salvation is within its communion. The degree of divergence (less for Traditional Protestants, greater for Radical Reformation groups) influences how Orthodoxy perceives their spiritual status, but ultimate judgment is left to God. For further reading, authoritative Orthodox sources include The Orthodox Church by Kallistos Ware or statements from the Orthodox Faith and Order Commission in ecumenical dialogues.

Eastern Orthodoxy views Traditional Protestants and Radical Reformation groups as separated brethren who possess elements of Christian truth but lack the fullness of the Church’s sacramental and apostolic life.

The Serpent from the Garden speaks again!!!

 

[Brakelite]

But, Barney Fife claims the Seventh Day Adventists do not believe one has to belong to their cult, uh I mean church, in order to be saved and go to Heaven

SDA believe that if you worship on Sunday you are in dire SIN and are acting as an accomplice to RCC/Vatican

Your guys' constant misrepresenting of us is perplexing, considering the huge amount of resources available through SDA web sites that will inform you of the truth of what we actually believe. It seems you are afraid to actually investigate in case you may need to retract all your false assertions. Neither of you have ever bothered to read any of Ellen White's materials or books have you. Apart from maybe some out of context quote from our enemies. There is not another church on the planet with as many resources informing anyone openly as to what and why we believe the way we do. Nothing's hidden. What are you afraid of?

 

[Brakelite]

But, Barney Fife claims the Seventh Day Adventists do not believe one has to belong to their cult, uh I mean church, in order to be saved and go to Heaven

You believe Barney? I'm asking because most, if not all, cultists are well known for lying, deceiving, obscuring the truth about their motives and life principles. So if we are a cult, it would be generally expected that not much of what we tell you would be true, and if it were true at all, it would be designed to deceive. So when Barney says there are Christians in all denominations with a genuine and real future in glory, do you believe him, or is he lying to you?