LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU! WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

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None, who have been born again shall have everlasting physical life until Christ returns to change our mortal body to immortal and from corruptible to incorruptible when the last trumpet sounds. From the Spirit sent from Christ within, those who are born again have eternal life from the moment we believe. It is our spirit through the power of the Holy Spirit that possesses eternal life because life comes from spirit. How can we be certain this is true? Because Christ has promised that when we have been born again having His Spirit in us, He shall be with us until we receive the promise of immortal & incorruptible body of flesh.

Acts 16:31 (KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

John 3:7 (KJV) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 5:24 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

1Co 15:51 ¶ Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

All mortal bodies of flesh and blood are destined to die, but eternal life is not dependent upon having physical flesh, because life, both physical and spiritual comes not from flesh but from spirit. That's true of both physical and spiritual life, because our natural spirit gives natural physical life to our body of flesh and blood, and the Holy Spirit gives eternal life of spirit when we have been born again.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

This is why Christ tells us, Ye must be born again to know and enter the Kingdom of God.
When we receive the initial grace of justification we have union with God in Christ thru grace and the spirit! Amen?

We can lose this grace and return to spiritual death by serious sin! Amen?

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Is that what this is about? Man oh man! I've long had a good ability to recognize when someone isn't quoting a passage correctly.

Well, OK then. You cannot accept correction, over rewording Scripture, and will go on and on and on over it. I get it now.

What silliness!

Yikes!
Get over it.
No foul.
You can not receive correction.
You did not know, "anything apart from faith is sin".
You got schooled
Now you are on endless damage control.
Yikes!!!!
 

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However, if you say "He turned away and died in his sin but he will still make it into glory." Then you have believed satan's original lie... go ahead and sin...you shall not surely die!

Exactly! That's the same core message satan taught Adam and Eve.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live

They argue that being separated from the Lord (death) does not mean a person won't go to Heaven.
Some will say God will only discipline a person living in sin by putting a little cancer on them or maybe killing one of their kids or something. It's crazy.
 

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Yes indeed it is so
Those who are Of God will follow Christ, they are not antichrists.
Like when Peter sinned, Christ as His mediator and great high priest prayed for Peter, and Peter was turned back to Christ.
He does not leave us orphans, He will come to us and aid us to salvation.

Hebrews 6

7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

A Better Estimate​

9 But, beloved, we are confident of better things concerning you, yes, things that accompany salvation, though we speak in this manner. 10 For God is not unjust to forget your work and [d]labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister. 11 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end, 12 that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

God’s Infallible Purpose in Christ​

13 For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself, 14 saying, “Surely blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply you.” 15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. 16 For men indeed swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation is for them an end of all dispute. 17 Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the [f]immutability of His counsel, [g]confirmed it by an oath, 18 that by two [h]immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we [i]might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us.

19 This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil, 20 where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.
Then why are some lost?

Thks
 

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Now you are on endless damage control.

He might have a future in liberal politics where they never admit their error and instead paint these wonderful sounding narratives that seek to make themselves looks like angels and their opponents to look like devils.

I heard down south that call that doing the shuck-n-jive!
 

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Then why are some lost?

The Lord tells us in His Word why not all are saved:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

By not choosing to follow the Lord they by default follow the devil who blinded them.
 

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Don't be deceived as though you are walking in Spirit while your works are fleshy.

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Then why are some lost?

Thks
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John 6:39
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.

John 17:12
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

None are lost once saved.
See that is the big divide here, over the will of God.
Scripture tells us again this, none are lost that God gives to Christ.
If God foreknows His own elect, then none of them can be lost!

Romans 8
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession [g]for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

God’s Everlasting Love​

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.


You can see eternal salvation for those God foreknew and predestined to be confirmed to the image of His Son.
However many I tell you, do not believe this.
 
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