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Featured Let's talk Vaccines, from a medical, scientific, historical, ethical and theological perspective.

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by ReChoired, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    PS: Depends how 'negligence' is defined, really...(a lot of money for lawyers there...)
     
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    There is no higher [American] authority that they are beholden to. Such an authority would have to be global, but that is off-topic for this thread.
     
  3. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    In effect, maybe the CIA /Pentagon gives itself permission for some of their (sometimes unstated) long term goals....(look at the Bay of Pigs, for example...)
     
  4. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    Though maybe I am getting off topic...

    It does go to show that corporations do wield huge power...
     
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    Even if they don't make repairs for their own negligence, somebody will end up doing so, in the form of its consequences. It is comparable to pollution.

    (If industry isn't checked for polluting the water, for instance, it becomes the water treatment plant's problem.)
     
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  6. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    Foreign policy negligence has its dire consequences, too....
     
  7. Sabertooth

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    You keep veering off-topic. Vaccine-injury negligence is important enough to stay on topic. Increased support for unnecessarily disabled adults threatens to outpace community resources in so many places. (And that concern is more consistent with the OP.)
     
  8. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    Good point.
     
  9. Triumph1300

    Triumph1300 Well-Known Member

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    I put my trust in the Lord. Call me crazy, but it's in the book.
    He never failed me yet.
     
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    Yup, the lip gear. Lol. You are right! :)
     
  11. Jay Ross

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    That is if the lip gear is allowed to become long enough and sticky enough to act as an external filter for all of the germs. :D
     
  12. Steve Owen

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    That is Satan's argument in Matthew 4:5-8. Our Lord's response: "It is written again, You shall not put the Lord your God to the test."
     
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    Corporations have been a legal way to stop the buck from stopping here at the doorstep or in the lap of the ones who really do pull the strings. Men may not be able to or even may not want to identify the ones pulling the strings, but God always knows them and He knows us. Those responsible will pay a price... but while we may see it, we should not expect to...!
     
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    1) @Triumph1300 wrote that "trust" in the Lord is in the Bible; on the other hand, you changed "trust" to "test" the Lord. One of the passages from the Bible that supports Triumph1300's assertion that trusting God is in the Bible is "Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight" (Proverbs 3:5-6). Be on your guard, Steve Owen, that you not call evil good nor good evil (2 Peter 3:17, Isaiah 5:20).

    2) Respecting where Lord Jesus said "it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'" to the tempter, the devil, who said to Jesus to throw himself down from the pinnacle of the Temple (Matthew 4:5-7), injecting toxins such as aluminum directly into the blood of little helpless children is putting God to the test (the same goes for getting injections yourself), and you are promoting the very thing.

    The scriptural exposition of the evils of vaccination post in this thread remains true.
     
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    With respect, you have misunderstood my earlier post which may be my fault for not being clearer.
    In Matthew 4:5-6, Satan tempts our Lord to throw Himself down from the Temple, trusting that the Father will save Him. The Lord Jesus replies that one should not put God to the test.
    It seems to me that @Triumph1300 is putting God to the test by not having a flu jab which would not only protect him against flu, but also those around him. I have worn a seat belt when driving for the last 30 years or so. In that time I have never had an accident. Was I lacking in faith in God to protect me by wearing a seat belt? Or would I have been testing God had I not worn one? Oliver Cromwell famously told his troops, "Trust in God and keep your powder dry." Was he lacking in faith by not believing that God could make damp gunpowder work? Or would he have been testing God if he had told his troops it didn't matter if their powder got wet?
     
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    science and engineering also figures out how to build bridges and fly jets. if it works it works if it don't it don't. but its communism to tell others what to do with what is theirs isn't it? if a bridge is built should it be law to use it, if a vaccine is made should it be law to use it just because you think so?
     
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    Wearing a seat belt is in compliance with the law in many jurisdictions, and the Apostle Paul wrote "Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities" (Romans 13:1).

    Back to your earlier post, both of these address points which you covered about Triumph1300's post.

    1) In post #89, @Triumph1300 wrote that he "trusts" the Lord to take care of him as he testifies that he's not had a vaccination in about three quarters of a century; on the other hand, in your post #92, along with your post quoted above, you still try to change "trust" to "test" the Lord. The Word of God includes this passage about trusting God "Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight" (Proverbs 3:5-6). Whose understanding are you leaning on, Steve Owen?

    2) Respecting where Lord Jesus said "it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'" to the tempter, the devil, who said to Jesus to throw himself down from the pinnacle of the Temple (Matthew 4:5-7), injecting toxins such as aluminum directly into the blood of little helpless children is putting God to the test (the same goes for getting injections yourself), and you are promoting the very thing.

    Steve Owen, you have not answered the question What scriptural support do you propose for the injection of various chemicals and agents with toxic properties into helpless little children in the scriptural exposition of the evils of vaccination post in this thread - which remains true.
     
  18. Triumph1300

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    Correct.
    I like to see an answer, Steve.
     
  19. ReChoired

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    You use a lot of non-sequitur to attempt an equality. There is no equality with true medical science (knowledge) and the falsely so called science of 'vaccine'. Here is a testimony of an Ex-Exec from MERCK at a CDC hearing:

     
  20. DPMartin

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    you mean people lie cheat destroy others for fun and profit, naaaaw how can that be. get real, just because the catholic priesthood is less than human, doesn't mean Jesus isn't the Son of God, does it? same with anything else in the hands of men. there is what is true and then those who seek to place themselves between you and the truth of a matter. like media for instance.
     
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