Lord Jesus Pointed Directly to the Coming of a False Christ First

[amigo de christo]

" 3 For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
2 Timothy 4:3-4

People, especially the younger ones who attend church seem to be more into the rock bands and smoke and lights than the message of the gospel. They are leaving sound teaching for these mega churches as they are light on the gospel (at least the ones I have attended or watched online) there is no accountability at all. I remember in the 90's, the church I was going to had us all get with a person and be one anothers "accountability partner" and it did help al lot!
God save your church!

I am gonna let you in on a lil secrete . EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU ALREADY WELL KNOW THIS .
WHEN the church has to become as the world to win the world , IT AINT GONNA WIN ANYONE TO CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes. Demons still are HARD at work!

And now they are fast merging all religoins and secular to be as one under a love so false and not of GOD .
ITs a love that the world will accept , for they loveth sin . But it aint love and it aint of GOD and it aint gonna save squat .

 

[amigo de christo]

Just in case a few might not realize this . Satan can quoate scrips . YOU BETT BELIEVE THAT .
HE sure can say GOD IS LOVE but beware the version of love he brings .

 

[The Light]

Lord Jesus in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 pointed directly in warning about the coming of a false-Christ that will appear on earth first, prior to His return.

The Matthew 24:23-26 Scripture is a bit tricky, because the KJV translators didn't follow the Greek perfectly involving the singular tense. They instead made it plural, when the CONTEXT per the Greek is actually about a singular coming antichrist, or false-Christ.

The reason it is plural is because there is a beast of the earth and beast of the sea coming. The beast of the sea warning is here, hence the plethora of mummy movies. The beast that was, and is not and yet is. The eighth that is of the seven.

Matthew 24
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

The rider on the white horse is the beast of the earth.

Matt 24:21-26
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The above warning Jesus gave set the time of this. It is for the time of "great tribulation".


Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.

What is the context of the above warning statement by Lord Jesus? Is He pointing to many Christs plural, or to a singular Christ? He is pointing to a SINGULAR false Christ.

In that time, or the "great tribulation", if someone comes up to you and says that, "Lo, here is Christ, or there", they will be pointing to a singular one they believe is The Christ. That word "Christ" there is christos in the Greek, and is the word for a singular Christ.

No brainer right? It's easy to know Lord Jesus is pointing to a singular false Christ by that statement, right?

There are two false Christs.

Matthew 24:25-26
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV

Shouldn't the KJV translators have translated that "He is in the desert" as "THEY are in the desert"?, since they translated the previous "false Christs" as plural?

No. Jesus is giving the warning about the beast of the sea that is in the desert in the secret chamber. You might look up Gilgamesh and figure out who he is and figure out when his tomb was found and when we went to war claiming weapons of mass destruction. All ties together.

Same with "He is in the secret chambers", shouldn't that have been translated as, "They are in the secret chambers"??

How do we reconcile these Scriptures then?

The KEY:
is to understand that BOTH a singular "antichrist" is prophesied to come, and also "many antichrists" are prophesied, even that the many are already at work (1 John 2:18). In Matthew 24:4-5 Lord Jesus warned about the coming of the "many antichrists", when He said many would come in His name, saying, "I am Christ".

But this pseudo-christos in Matthew 24:23-26 is different, because Lord Jesus was pointing to a specific false one the deceived will be saying is The Christ. And that in conjunction with that single false one working "great signs and wonders" so powerful in deception, that IF... it were possible, would deceive even Christ's very elect.

This means that coming False-Christ is going to appear and work in every way possible how our Lord Jesus would appear, working supernatural signs and wonders and miracles. Revelation 13:11 forward even reveals that false one will rain fire down from heaven to the earth in the sight of men.

Forget... all the old stereotypes of the old false kings of empires per past history that claimed to be God. Those were about flesh men claiming to be God without power to work supernatural signs and wonders. This coming pseudo-Christ apparently will not be flesh human born.

This stuff is getting ready to be revealed.

However, the Church will be raptured BEFORE the seals are opened.

 

[amigo de christo]

THEN TRY reading about the black horse .
Rather interesting it says specfically , and harm NOT the OIL and the WINE .
My advice , prepare to die for JESUS , prepare to lose all for HIS name sake and dont expect the easy life in this world .

 

[Davy]

I have not given up on the "singular" Christ...small "c" really. The plural has had me confused as, we all know that Satan is the great imposter and tries to fool Christians. I can really see him deceiving if even..."the very elect" in this way. Even if there are plural false Christs, he will use that also to fool others and say something like 'see, this is what I told you about, do not follow 'them' for I am The Christ and do many wonders and signes and miracles before your eyes'! Or some such.

There are some 'so-called' Christian denominations today that don't believe The Bible teaches about a 'singular' coming Antichrist either. They instead wrongly believe Satan's host with pushing the lie that the word "antichrist" applies only to the idea MANY false ones. Therefore, they aren't looking for that false one Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us about for the end that is coming to play God on earth, working those great signs and wonders and miracles to deceive the whole world. The early Church fathers of the 1st century understood about the coming of a 'singular' Antichrist, so what's the problem with those leaders in those denominations today? It's simple, many of the seminaries and Church organizations have been taken over by the crept in unawares of Jude.

 

[Nancy]

There are some 'so-called' Christian denominations today that don't believe The Bible teaches about a 'singular' coming Antichrist either. They instead wrongly believe Satan's host with pushing the lie that the word "antichrist" applies only to the idea MANY false ones. Therefore, they aren't looking for that false one Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us about for the end that is coming to play God on earth, working those great signs and wonders and miracles to deceive the whole world. The early Church fathers of the 1st century understood about the coming of a 'singular' Antichrist, so what's the problem with those leaders in those denominations today? It's simple, many of the seminaries and Church organizations have been taken over by the crept in unawares of Jude.

"It's simple, many of the seminaries and Church organizations have been taken over by the crept in unawares of Jude."

Yes! Satan don't start at the bottom. He gets' right in there to "teach the teachers"

 

[Nancy]

Ps , my friend the KJV is not OLD english . Its early modern english .
If you like i can bring what old english looks like . Have fun with it . It is quite difficult to understand .
Middle english is much easire to understand and kjv early modern english is even easier .

@Meditation , here's a bit of what Amigo would have sent you:

From the 1611 KJV, John 3:16 "
John 3:16 For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life."

Not THAT's old English, lol.

 

[Davy]

I've told you how lexicons work, and that you should stick to the text. You're choice what to do after that. And you choose to deny and ignore this information.

Strong was not "wrong" to list a lexical form of a word, that's how it's done. However, you are wrong if you believe that this means Strong was translating plural words as singular. That's nothing to do with how a lexicon is put together.

Ignorance is OK because we can learn, but if you reject learning, then what?

Much love!

You only gave your opinion, which proved nothing.

The singular CONTEXT of the Matthew 24:23 & 26 verses is what PROVES that Jesus was pointing to a specific 'singular' false-Christ that will come at the end of this world, working those "great signs and wonders" that IF it were possible, would deceive even His very elect.

What Dr. James Strong provided with defining Greek 'pseudochristos' there in Matthew 24:24 was simply agreeing with the SINGULAR CONTEXT of those Matthew 24:23 & 26 verses.

 

[Davy]

There have already been a number false Christs from Moon to Maitreya, I don't know how many.

John spoke in terms of many antichrists coming, and the antichrist. I think there will be many imposters, and then one who will stand out from them all.

Much love!

Well yeah... there is to be a singular Antichrist that is to come at the end.

Apostle John revealed it in 1 John 2:18, because the first phrase has the word "antichrist" by itself, saying those he was speaking to already knew that "antichrist" shall come.


But WHERE did they already hear that "antichrist" shall come??

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV

 

[Davy]

"It's simple, many of the seminaries and Church organizations have been taken over by the crept in unawares of Jude."

Yes! Satan don't start at the bottom. He gets' right in there to "teach the teachers"

And Christ's Apostles warned us about those false prophets at the end too.

 

[amigo de christo]

@Meditation , here's a bit of what Amigo would have sent you:

From the 1611 KJV, John 3:16 "
John 3:16 For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life."

Not THAT's old English, lol.

actually that is modern early english . Just wait till i bring us some old english .
In the meantime , HANDS UP , CAUSE ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the BUILDING and round the world

 

[amigo de christo]

@Meditation , here's a bit of what Amigo would have sent you:

From the 1611 KJV, John 3:16 "
John 3:16 For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life."

Not THAT's old English, lol.

Soþlice on þam dagum wæs geworden gebod fram þam casere augusto. þæt eall ymbehwyrft wære tomearcod;	Forsoþe it is don, in þo daȝis a maundement wente out fro cesar august, þat al þe world shulde ben discriued,	And it came to passe in those dayes, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2:2	þeos tomearcodnes wæs æryst geworden fram þam deman syrige cirino.	þis firste discriuyng was maad of ciryne iustise of cirie	(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was gouernor of Syria)
2:3	and ealle hig eodon. and syndrie ferdon on hyra ceastre;	& alle wenten þat þei shulden make professioun, eche bi hymself in to his cyte	And all went to bee taxed, euery one into his owne citie.
2:4	þa ferde iosep fram galilea of þære ceastre nazareþ: on iudeisce ceastre dauides. seo is genemned beþleem	soþli & Joseph steȝede vp fro galilee of þe cite of naȝareþ, in to Jude, in to a cite of dauid þat ys clepid beþlem,	And Ioseph also went vp from Galilee, out of the citie of Nazareth, into Iudaea, vnto the citie of Dauid, which is called Bethlehem
2:5	forþam þe he wæs of dauides huse. and hirede þæt he ferde mid marian þe him beweddod wæs. and wæs geeacnod;	for þat he was of þe hous and meyne of dauid, þat he shulde knoulechen wiþ marie spousid to hym wyf, wiþ childe	(because he was of the house and linage of Dauid,) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
2:6	Soðlice wæs geworden þa hi þar wæron. hire dagas wæron gefyllede þæt heo cende.	soþli it is do whan þei weren þere, þe daȝes ben fulfild þat she shulde bern child	And so it was, that while they were there, the dayes were accomplished that she should be deliuered.
2:7	and heo cende hyre frumcennedan sunu. and hine mid cildclaþum bewand. and hine on binne alede. forþam þe hig næfdon rum on cumena huse;	& she childide hir first goten sone, & wlappede hym in cloþis & putte hym in a cracche, for þer was not place to hym in þe comun stable	And she brought foorth her first borne son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was no roome for them in the Inne.
2:8	and hyrdas wæron on þam ylcan rice waciende: and nihtwæccan healdende of er heora heorda	& shepherdis weren in þe same kuntre wakende & kepende þe wacchis of þe niȝt on her floc	And there were in the same countrey shepheards abiding in the field, keeping watch ouer their flocke by night.
2:9	þa stod drihtnes engel wiþ hig and godes beorhtnes him ymbelscean: and hi him mycelum ege adredon.	& lo þe aungil of þe lord stod biside hem, & clernesse of god shoen abouten hem, and þei dredden wiþ gret dreed	And loe, the Angel of the Lord came vpon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them, and they were sore afraid.
2:10	and se engel him to cwæð; Nelle ge eow adrædan. soþlice nu ic eow bodie mycelne gefean. se bið eallum folce.	& þe aungil seide to hem, nyle ȝee dreeden, lo soþli I euangelise to ȝou a gret ioȝe þat shall be to alle puple-	And the Angel said vnto them, Feare not: For behold, I bring you good tidings of great ioy, which shall be to all people.
2:11	forþam todæg eow ys hælend acenned. se is drihten crist on dauides ceastre;	for a saueour is born to day to vs, þat is crist a lord in þe cite of dauid	For vnto you is borne this day, in the citie of Dauid, a Sauiour, which is Christ the Lord.
2:12	And þis tacen eow byð; Ge gemetað an cild hreglum bewunden. and on binne aled;	& þis a tocne to ȝou, ȝee shul finden a ȝung childd wlappid wiþ cloþis, & put in a cracche	And this shall be a signe vnto you; yee shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes lying in a manger.
2:13	And þa wæs færinga geworden mid þam engle mycelnes heofonlices werydes god heriendra. and þus cweþendra;	& sodeinli þer is mad wiþ þe aungil, a multitude of heueneli kniȝþed, heriende god & seyinge-	And suddenly there was with the Angel a multitude of the heauenly hoste praising God, and saying,
2:14	Gode sy wuldor on heahnesse and on eorðan sybb mannum godes willan;	glorie in þe heȝest þingis to god, & in erþe pes to men of good wil	Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good wil towards men.
2:15	and hit wæs geworden þa ða englas to heofene ferdon. þa hyrdas him betwynan spræcon and cwædon; Utun faran to beþleem. and geseon þæt word þe geworden is. þæt drihten us ætywde;	& it is don þat whan aungelis paseden awey fro hem in to heuene, þe shepherdis speeken toqidere seiende, go wee ouer to beþlem & see wee þis wrd þat is maad, þe whiche þe lord made, & shewede to vs	And it came to passe, as the Angels were gone away from them into heauen, the shepheards said one to another, Let vs now goe euen vnto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to passe, which the Lord hath made knowen vnto vs.
2:16	and hig efstende comon: and gemetton marian and iosep and þæt cild on binne aled;	and þei heȝende camen, & founden marie & Joseph, & a ȝung child put in a cracche	And they came with haste, and found Mary and Ioseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
2:17	þa hi þæt gesawon þa oncneowon hig be þam worde þe him gesæd wæs be þam cilde;	soþli þey seende knewen of þe wrd, þat was seid to þem of þis child	And when they had seene it, they made knowen abroad the saying, which was told them, concerning this child.
2:18	And ealle þa ðe gehyrdon wundredon be þam þe him þa hyrdas sædon;	& alle men þat hadden herdd, wondreden, & of þese þingis þat weren seid to hem of þe shepherdis	And all they that heard it, wondered at those things, which were tolde them by the shepheards.
2:19	Maria geheold ealle þas word on hyre heortan smeagende;	forsoþe marie kepte alle þese wrdis, berende togidere in hir herte	But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart

 

[amigo de christo]

The first column is old english , the middle column is middle english and the third is early modern

 

[amigo de christo]

the funny looking P makes a TH sound . also in the middle english the s could appear like an f

 

[Nancy]

Soþlice on þam dagum wæs geworden gebod fram þam casere augusto. þæt eall ymbehwyrft wære tomearcod;	Forsoþe it is don, in þo daȝis a maundement wente out fro cesar august, þat al þe world shulde ben discriued,	And it came to passe in those dayes, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2:2	þeos tomearcodnes wæs æryst geworden fram þam deman syrige cirino.	þis firste discriuyng was maad of ciryne iustise of cirie	(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was gouernor of Syria)
2:3	and ealle hig eodon. and syndrie ferdon on hyra ceastre;	& alle wenten þat þei shulden make professioun, eche bi hymself in to his cyte	And all went to bee taxed, euery one into his owne citie.
2:4	þa ferde iosep fram galilea of þære ceastre nazareþ: on iudeisce ceastre dauides. seo is genemned beþleem	soþli & Joseph steȝede vp fro galilee of þe cite of naȝareþ, in to Jude, in to a cite of dauid þat ys clepid beþlem,	And Ioseph also went vp from Galilee, out of the citie of Nazareth, into Iudaea, vnto the citie of Dauid, which is called Bethlehem
2:5	forþam þe he wæs of dauides huse. and hirede þæt he ferde mid marian þe him beweddod wæs. and wæs geeacnod;	for þat he was of þe hous and meyne of dauid, þat he shulde knoulechen wiþ marie spousid to hym wyf, wiþ childe	(because he was of the house and linage of Dauid,) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
2:6	Soðlice wæs geworden þa hi þar wæron. hire dagas wæron gefyllede þæt heo cende.	soþli it is do whan þei weren þere, þe daȝes ben fulfild þat she shulde bern child	And so it was, that while they were there, the dayes were accomplished that she should be deliuered.
2:7	and heo cende hyre frumcennedan sunu. and hine mid cildclaþum bewand. and hine on binne alede. forþam þe hig næfdon rum on cumena huse;	& she childide hir first goten sone, & wlappede hym in cloþis & putte hym in a cracche, for þer was not place to hym in þe comun stable	And she brought foorth her first borne son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was no roome for them in the Inne.
2:8	and hyrdas wæron on þam ylcan rice waciende: and nihtwæccan healdende of er heora heorda	& shepherdis weren in þe same kuntre wakende & kepende þe wacchis of þe niȝt on her floc	And there were in the same countrey shepheards abiding in the field, keeping watch ouer their flocke by night.
2:9	þa stod drihtnes engel wiþ hig and godes beorhtnes him ymbelscean: and hi him mycelum ege adredon.	& lo þe aungil of þe lord stod biside hem, & clernesse of god shoen abouten hem, and þei dredden wiþ gret dreed	And loe, the Angel of the Lord came vpon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them, and they were sore afraid.
2:10	and se engel him to cwæð; Nelle ge eow adrædan. soþlice nu ic eow bodie mycelne gefean. se bið eallum folce.	& þe aungil seide to hem, nyle ȝee dreeden, lo soþli I euangelise to ȝou a gret ioȝe þat shall be to alle puple-	And the Angel said vnto them, Feare not: For behold, I bring you good tidings of great ioy, which shall be to all people.
2:11	forþam todæg eow ys hælend acenned. se is drihten crist on dauides ceastre;	for a saueour is born to day to vs, þat is crist a lord in þe cite of dauid	For vnto you is borne this day, in the citie of Dauid, a Sauiour, which is Christ the Lord.
2:12	And þis tacen eow byð; Ge gemetað an cild hreglum bewunden. and on binne aled;	& þis a tocne to ȝou, ȝee shul finden a ȝung childd wlappid wiþ cloþis, & put in a cracche	And this shall be a signe vnto you; yee shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes lying in a manger.
2:13	And þa wæs færinga geworden mid þam engle mycelnes heofonlices werydes god heriendra. and þus cweþendra;	& sodeinli þer is mad wiþ þe aungil, a multitude of heueneli kniȝþed, heriende god & seyinge-	And suddenly there was with the Angel a multitude of the heauenly hoste praising God, and saying,
2:14	Gode sy wuldor on heahnesse and on eorðan sybb mannum godes willan;	glorie in þe heȝest þingis to god, & in erþe pes to men of good wil	Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good wil towards men.
2:15	and hit wæs geworden þa ða englas to heofene ferdon. þa hyrdas him betwynan spræcon and cwædon; Utun faran to beþleem. and geseon þæt word þe geworden is. þæt drihten us ætywde;	& it is don þat whan aungelis paseden awey fro hem in to heuene, þe shepherdis speeken toqidere seiende, go wee ouer to beþlem & see wee þis wrd þat is maad, þe whiche þe lord made, & shewede to vs	And it came to passe, as the Angels were gone away from them into heauen, the shepheards said one to another, Let vs now goe euen vnto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to passe, which the Lord hath made knowen vnto vs.
2:16	and hig efstende comon: and gemetton marian and iosep and þæt cild on binne aled;	and þei heȝende camen, & founden marie & Joseph, & a ȝung child put in a cracche	And they came with haste, and found Mary and Ioseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
2:17	þa hi þæt gesawon þa oncneowon hig be þam worde þe him gesæd wæs be þam cilde;	soþli þey seende knewen of þe wrd, þat was seid to þem of þis child	And when they had seene it, they made knowen abroad the saying, which was told them, concerning this child.
2:18	And ealle þa ðe gehyrdon wundredon be þam þe him þa hyrdas sædon;	& alle men þat hadden herdd, wondreden, & of þese þingis þat weren seid to hem of þe shepherdis	And all they that heard it, wondered at those things, which were tolde them by the shepheards.
2:19	Maria geheold ealle þas word on hyre heortan smeagende;	forsoþe marie kepte alle þese wrdis, berende togidere in hir herte	But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart

Lol, kind of reminds me of Swedish lol. What a challenge it would be to decipher all that to understand scripture.

 

[amigo de christo]

& þe aungil seide to hem, nyle ȝee dreeden, lo soþli I euangelise to ȝou a gret ioȝe þat shall be to alle puple
english also had no universal spelling .
But notice the symbol for AND , it came from old english and we still use it today . Also the tenses of things
were added into things like other languages still do .
The funny p makes the TH sound . cause when there was no TH in english at that time
so they kept the THORN , the P symbol . As well as U and V were often interchanged too .
This gringo learned these things to prove one thing to all the churches .
THE KJV BIBLE was and is ACCURATE . the english stayed true .

 

[amigo de christo]

Lol, kind of reminds me of Swedish lol. What a challenge it would be to decipher all that to understand scripture.

Its not as hard as you think . the middle english is much easier to learn . You just have to know
there was no universal spelling . I mean people could be spelled so many different ways .
Also u and v were interchanged . Words like called , CLEPID means called . Its not hard dear sister .
Now old english can be a bit harder . I learned about our langague and how it came about
in the library years back . TO prove to the world what i already knew . You see
folks are really hating on the KJV bible these days . Trying to say things like it wasnt translated right
or etc . THEY dead wrong sister . Dead wrong .
You do know how we got our alphabet . I MEAN OLD english was NOT written originally in the alaphet we have today .
YOU SHOULD SEE IT IN RUINC form . YEAH , THAT IS TOUGH .
But the monks actually translated our language using the LATIN alaphabet .
When it was spoken they put the sounds into the latin alphabet . YEAH our a bc d , COMETH from latin . NOT ENGLISH .
Yeah the dumby learnt things . I read a lot sister .

 

[amigo de christo]

Lol, kind of reminds me of Swedish lol. What a challenge it would be to decipher all that to understand scripture.

Also english stemmed from german too . Yep . Did you know in german the J sound makes a Y sound .
It do sister .
This gringo reads . Yes brother can read .

 

[Nancy]

Also english stemmed from german too . Yep . Did you know in german the J sound makes a Y sound .
It do sister .
This gringo reads . Yes brother can read .

Yes, I could see the German in it too. Ja, dis iz trrrrue! lol.