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A word from Athanasius.
”In the fifty-fourth chapter of On the Incarnation, St. Athanasius wrote a sentence that has echoed down through the centuries even into our own time as a brilliant summary of the Gospel. He wrote this: ‘God became man so that man might become god‘ (54:3).”
That Man Might Become God — Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick
This sermon may be heard as a recording via Ancient Faith Radio here. Twelfth Sunday of Luke / Feast of Ss. Athanasius and Cyril, January 18, 2015 Rev. Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, one God. Amen. Today is the feast of two great saints...
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Is that a “brilliant summary of the Gospel” that Jesus and the apostles preached?
“Part 1: The Profession of Faith (26-1065)
Section 2: The Profession of the Christian Faith (185-1065)
Chapter 2: I believe in Jesus Christ, the Only Son of God (422-682)
Article 3: ‘He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and was born of the Virgin Mary’ (456-570)
Paragraph 1: The Son of God Became Man (456-483)
I. WHY DID THE WORD BECOME FLESH?
460 The Word became flesh to make us ‘partakers of the divine nature.‘78 ‘For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of Man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.’79 ‘For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.’80 ‘The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us share in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.’ 81
78. 2 Pet 1:4
79. St Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 19, 1: PG 7/1, 939.
80. St. Athanasius, De inc. 54,3: PG 25, 192B.
81. St. Thomas Aquinas, Opusc. 57, 1-4.”
(Catechism of the Catholic Church)
P.S.
The link can be used to search the entire Catechism. I used it in this thread only to search for the quote by Athanasius.
Section 2: The Profession of the Christian Faith (185-1065)
Chapter 2: I believe in Jesus Christ, the Only Son of God (422-682)
Article 3: ‘He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, and was born of the Virgin Mary’ (456-570)
Paragraph 1: The Son of God Became Man (456-483)
I. WHY DID THE WORD BECOME FLESH?
460 The Word became flesh to make us ‘partakers of the divine nature.‘78 ‘For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of Man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.’79 ‘For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.’80 ‘The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us share in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.’ 81
78. 2 Pet 1:4
79. St Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 19, 1: PG 7/1, 939.
80. St. Athanasius, De inc. 54,3: PG 25, 192B.
81. St. Thomas Aquinas, Opusc. 57, 1-4.”
(Catechism of the Catholic Church)
P.S.
The link can be used to search the entire Catechism. I used it in this thread only to search for the quote by Athanasius.
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Brakelite
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No. And he was primarily responsible for other ongoing controversies as well, including one we aren't allowed to discuss.A word from Athanasius.
”In the fifty-fourth chapter of On the Incarnation, St. Athanasius wrote a sentence that has echoed down through the centuries even into our own time as a brilliant summary of the Gospel. He wrote this: ‘God became man so that man might become god‘ (54:3).”
That Man Might Become God — Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick
This sermon may be heard as a recording via Ancient Faith Radio here. Twelfth Sunday of Luke / Feast of Ss. Athanasius and Cyril, January 18, 2015 Rev. Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, one God. Amen. Today is the feast of two great saints...
Is that a “brilliant summary of the Gospel” that Jesus and the apostles preached?
Brakelite
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Brakelite
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“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. ”
John 17:3 KJV
Brakelite
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And yet we also need to take care how far we go with...
“20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: ”
John 17:20-22 KJV
“20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: ”
John 17:20-22 KJV
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. ”
John 17:3 KJV
Jesus (himself a Jewish monotheist) has a clear understanding of who the only true God is. This is a baseline verse for Jewish monotheists.
The life of the age to come is connected with knowing the one true God and knowing the Messiah. The Messiah was sent by the one true God - Yahweh, the Messiah’s God and Father.
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Readers must understand that for Jewish monotheists this has nothing whatsoever to do with the Trinity.
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In Jewish monotheism, being made like our brother the Messiah doesn’t involve deifying us.
”Christian” members aren’t allowed to speak against the Trinity. Period.
”Other Faith“ members are, I’ll venture to say, tired of talking about the Trinity. The Trinity isn’t our deity.
The deity whom I want to talk about is the God of Jewish monotheism. So far, there is no rule or policy that prohibits anyone from doing that. There also, unfortunately, isn’t much interest in talking about the God of Jewish monotheism among those who aren’t Jewish monotheists. I spend most of my time talking about him here talking to the wind.
Brakelite
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Who said anything about the Trinity?
I would be happy to talk about Jewish monotheism. Not that I would necessarily agree with your conclusions, and nor am I willing to surrender my public confession as a Christian. If I said other, and seeing most here know I'm Seventh Day Adventist, then they may conclude that Seventh Day Adventists don't identify as Christian. They do. But not all identify as Trinitarian, despite that belief being numbered among the church's fundamental beliefs. At least since 1980 anyway.
Who said anything about the Trinity?
I did. What I said is that I’m tired of talking about it. It isn’t my faith. Less talk about the Trinity shouldn’t be an issue for members who are registered “Other Faith”.
“Christian” members and “Other Faith” members are satisfied with the current policy. That’s a good thing.
I would welcome the conversation.
Follow your conscience is my advice. Registering as a “Christian” member offers you some privileges that members registered “Other Faith” don’t have. Changing my registration from “Christian” to “Other Faith” three years ago has worked out very well for me in this environment.
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