Mary as New Eve

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GracePeace

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All YOU'VE done is issue denial after denial,
I stood on Scripture, your side failed to produce a reason for rejecting God.

accuse me of non-existent "name-calling"
Well, stop namecalling.

and run to the Mods whenever you get stuck stumped.
Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit--control yourself so that the mods don't have to.

As I states earlier - perhaps a Debate site os NOT the best place for you so be spending your time if it upsets you so much.
You're no threat to me.
 

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Sorry, weren't you literally just arguing against God's condemnation on homosexuality yesterday ? Who are you to speak on this?
No, I made clear what my argument was, apparently to no avail,,,,,, because your still putting forth the finger and making vain accusations.
 

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That truly would be a shame, I may have something to share?
What I mean is you don't have the most basic principles down--God's condemnation of homosexuality is literally not even the Gospel. It precedes the Gospel. This discussion we're having is far far beyond that. I am not going to get involved in a discussion where you are way in over your head. That's not fair to me or to you.
 

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What I mean is you don't have the most basic principles down--God's condemnation of homosexuality is literally not even the Gospel. It precedes the Gospel. This discussion we're having is far far beyond that. I am not going to get involved in a discussion where you are way in over your head. That's not fair to me or to you.
Get back on topic.
 

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@James the Rabbit had the following important objection "I accept that the Church is the New Eve--but Mary is also a part of the Church, so she could qualify as 'New Eve' as well."

The answer is as follows (for anyone who missed it) : Mary was not a part of the Church (sharing in Christ's death ("I am crucified with Christ") and resurrection, nor "in Christ" ("for the Spirit had not yet been given" John 7:7--"But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him." 1 Corinthians 6:17), which wasn't even in existence at the time in which this objection wants to insist she was "New Eve" (ie, when she became pregnant, then bore and gave birth to Jesus) any more than Paul was a part of the Church when he was persecuting the Church to death.
 
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@James the Rabbit had the following important objection "I accept that the Church is the New Eve--but Mary is also a part of the Church, so she could qualify as 'New Eve' as well."

The answer is as follows (for anyone who missed it) : Mary was not a part of the Church (sharing in His death ("I am crucified with Christ") and resurrection, "in Christ" ("for the Spirit had not yet been given"--"he who is one with the Lord is one Spirit"), which wasn't even in existence at the time in which this objection wants to insist she was "New Eve" (ie, when she became pregnant, then bore and gave birth to Jesus) any more than Paul was a part of the Church when he was persecuting the Church to death.
I’m trying to catch up, this is under the assumption that you are the bride and the bridegroom, is this correct?
 

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John 3:27-29 KJV
[27] John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. [28] Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. [29] He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
 
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