Mary found the tomb empty...where did Jesus body go?

[Enoch111]

Like Bathomet? Is Bathomet serving our Lord?

That would be Baphomet, and that is just another name for Satan (like Beelzebub).

 

[michaelvpardo]

Of course, but my point is that bathtubmet is among the symbols of Free Masonry and that symbolic interpretation of scripture has roots in Free Masonry. The builders have been around for a long time and weren't always known as Free Masons, but the crafts have supported religious deception throughout history.
The symbols of scripture are significant, but secondary to the plain meaning of the text. Symbolism stimulates the imagination, but we can imagine anything.

21 And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.
22 “While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
Cold and heat,
Winter and summer,
And day and night
Shall not cease.” Genesis 8:21-22

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I am looking into this and hopefully find out for sure.

Hart van die Evangelie pdf (3).pdf

file:///C:/Users/Gerhard/Downloads/Hart%20van%20die%20Evangelie%20pdf%20(3).pdf

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Mary and the disciples discover Jesus body is gone....
John 20 (KJV)

Well, you quote this statement verbatim from any version or translation or manuscript and then and then only you will not be deceiver and impressionist of FALSEHOOD. For Pete's sake, your audacity to even enforce your comic lie with <(KJV)> -- you insult any reader's intelligence.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Mary found the tomb empty...

You make the same error as Heart2Soul said: above, and I challenge you the same as I challenged Heart2Soul

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

they just cannot see that the soul goes instantly to be with the Father. Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto the God [the Father] Who gave it." They just can't accept that the beautiful soul of that person leaves instantly at the time of death to be with Father.

What contradicting self inflicted confusion!
<the soul goes instantly to be with the Father. Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto the God [the Father] Who gave it.">

YOU just can't accept that "soul" is the final and complete "man" God in the beginning created on the Sixth Day, and that "spirit"--the earth's air that God "breathed into man's nostrils" that made "man a living soul" leaves the man, the living soul, at the time of death as it started that individual's life at his physical birth, as his breath - air going back into air... not <to be with Father>--that is YOU, n2thelight, spinning air threads.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

n2thelight said:

they just cannot see that the soul goes instantly to be with the Father. Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto the God [the Father] Who gave it." They just can't accept that the beautiful soul of that person leaves instantly at the time of death to be with Father.

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CGE:
What contradicting self inflicted confusion!
<the soul goes instantly to be with the Father. Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto the God [the Father] Who gave it.">

YOU just can't accept that "soul" is the final and complete "man" God in the beginning created on the Sixth Day, and that "spirit"--the earth's air that God "breathed into man's nostrils" that made "man a living soul" leaves the man, the living soul, at the time of death as it started that individual's life at his physical birth, as his breath - air going back into air... not <to be with Father>--that is YOU, n2thelight, spinning air threads.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I think the answer to your question lies in 1 Corinthians 15:35-54. Those that are His at His coming will receive a new, incorruptible body. Jesus is the first person to whom this happened. That is what makes Him "firstborn from the dead." Just like the heavenly bodies, some of these resurrected bodies will shine brighter in the world to come. We all received a natural body. We will all receive a spiritual body. This is the body that will receive the judgment for what was done in the first body. (2 Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:12-13)

Notice that we are not judged regarding what we thought about the resurrected body, or if we thought Jesus is Michael, whether Judas was saved, or any other mental exercise. We are judged according to our WORKS. Dead works are those that honor dead gods. Living works are those that honor the Living God.

As it turns out, your post actually cites the verses exposing what has been taught incorrectly for 1,700 years.

Jesus was to be resurrected "on the third day." He was not to be raised at night. When Mary arrived it was still dark, but Jesus was already gone. That means He rose on the Sabbath.

Wednesday night, Thursday.
Thursday night, Friday.
Friday night, Saturday.

Rising at the end of the day on Saturday (Sabbath) would be "three days and three nights, rising on the third day." He is, after all, Lord of the Sabbath.
The "Good Friday" myth comes from the hijacking of the faith by people who did not know the Law. The Bible says His followers wanted to remove His body before the Sabbath, so those who are unlearned in the Law assumed that meant the crucifixion was on Friday. They did not know that the day after Passover was always an added Sabbath.

It is the only way the women could have bought spices before returning to the tomb. Thursday AND Saturday were both Sabbath days that week. Friday was the only day they could have legally bought anything. We are told they rested on the Sabbath.

On the day after the Sabbath of the Passover week is when the High Priest would wave the first fruits offering. (Leviticus 23:10-12)
The first fruits: Matthew 27:52

That is why Jesus said, "don't touch me." As High Priest He could not risk being touched by a woman for reasons you can read for yourself in Leviticus 15:19-30.

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CGE:
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Quite a delightful surprise, this post of yours! God bless you
Allow me to point out where I am sure you have it wrong - not everywhere, but at critical points nevertheless.

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<...in 1 Corinthians 15:35-54 those that are His at His coming will receive a new, incorruptible body.>
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True, correct!

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<Jesus is the first person to whom this happened. That is what makes Him "firstborn from the dead." Just like the heavenly bodies, some of these resurrected bodies will shine brighter in the world to come. We all received a natural body. We will all receive a spiritual body. This is the body that will receive the judgment for what was done in the first body. (2 Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:12-13)>
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IRRELEVANT and wrong where you assert: <Jesus is the first person to whom this happened.> Nothing nearly like that happened to Jesus Christ.

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<...what has been taught incorrectly for 1,700 years.>
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Absolutely true!

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<Jesus was to be resurrected "on the third day." He was not to be raised at night.>
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PRAISE GOD you're seeing the Gospel Truth!

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<When Mary arrived it was still dark,>
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When Mary arrived, "it was still EARLY OF dark" 'proh-i skotias eti ousehs', that is, it was still dusk, not still dark before sunrise. URL on request

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<but Jesus was already gone.>
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No, you cannot say that. "Mary comes...sees the STONE AWAY...runs back". Mary saw not the grave, what saw inside the tomb, what seen the body, or no body. MARY KNEW NO more than she saw-- she when back with Peter and John, Mary no better than SURMISED--drew her, own, conclusions--WRONG conclusions, proving Mary saw no more than what John recorded she saw.

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<That means He rose on the Sabbath.>
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Absolutely Gospel Truth! Grace that you so conclude!

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<Wednesday night, Thursday.
<Thursday night, Friday.
<Friday night, Saturday.
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PRECISE! Indisputable, irrevocable, legitimate, no offramp, do not deviate, you are on the right track.

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<Rising at the end of the day on Saturday (Sabbath) would be "three days and three nights, rising on the third day." He is, after all, Lord of the Sabbath.>
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Almost the exact equivalent of the Greek. But you MUST improve <at the end of the day>, to, 'opse'-"late on the Sabbath" RSV = "in the end(ing) of the Sabbath Day" KJV = Greek 'tehi epiphohskousehi' "in the inclining mid-afternoon daylight".

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<The "Good Friday" myth comes from the hijacking of the faith by people who did not know the Law. The Bible says His followers wanted to remove His body before the Sabbath, so those who are unlearned in the Law assumed that meant the crucifixion was on Friday. They did not know that the day after Passover was always an added Sabbath.>
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Almost right. But this is not correct or true, <The Bible says His followers wanted to remove His body before the Sabbath>. No, John 19:31 says "the Jews asked Pilate that the legs of the crucified be broken and their crosses be taken away" --"ON", not <before> “the sabbath…because That Day of sabbath was High Day”, literal, “was Great Day of sabbath" OF THE PASSOVER, "because That-Day-of-sabbath was" the 15th day of the First Month the very heart of the passover days, and, "was" in fact, the second or middle day of the "three days thick darkness", of Prophecy's LAST PASSOVER TRIUMPHANT SUFFERING of Jesus.

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<It is the only way the women could have bought spices before returning to the tomb.>
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That now may be incidentally, but according to Scripture, strictly, you got the chronology right.

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<Thursday AND Saturday were both Sabbath days that week.>
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WHAT ON EARTH MAKES YOU SAY THAT? Neither of Thursday and Friday were proper sabbaths. Friday as shown just now was the passover’s ‘sabbath’ so called, here, and nowhere else, ever, Old or New Testament. In the OT the 15th was the “rest” of the first sheaf “cut” on the 14th, for “wave-offering high before the LORD”, on the 16th, Leviticus 23:10-12, but over the 15th was “waved prostrate”, or “rested low”, “in store” LXX verse 11, then “on the day after stored / rested”, it was “waved / lifted high FIRST SHEAF WAVED OFFERING BEFORE THE LORD” on the 16th,

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<Friday was the only day they could have legally bought anything. We are told they rested on the Sabbath.>
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You are confusing the two Marys’ “prepared spices and sweet ointments”, on “That Day the Preparation” Luke 23:55,56a, and the three women’s “bought spices”—not <on the Sabbath> but “after the Sabbath was over” Mark 16:1.

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<On the day after the Sabbath of the Passover week is when the High Priest would wave the first fruits offering. (Leviticus 23:10-12)>
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Answered above. I’ll Post again on this issue DV.

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<The first fruits: Matthew 27:52 – That is why Jesus said, "don't touch me." As High Priest He could not risk being touched by a woman for reasons you can read for yourself in Leviticus 15:19-30.>
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It seems you got tired here.

 

[Davy]

So what happened to His body?
When He was on the cross His last words were "It is finished"...bowed His head and gave up the ghost..
“When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”
— John 19:30 (KJV)
(This tells us that when we die our spirit/ghost leaves the body)

So now the third day has come and Mary and the disciples discover Jesus body is gone....
John 20 (KJV)
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¹ The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
² Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.
³ Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.
⁴ So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
⁵ And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
⁶ Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
⁷ And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
⁸ Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.
⁹ For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
¹⁰ Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
¹¹ But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,
¹² And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
¹³ And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
¹⁴ And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

Now we have a dilemma....
If Jesus ghost left his body when He was on the Cross then He must have re-entered His body...(His spirit) in order for Mary to see Him in the flesh....

Jesus' Spirit went to the "spirits in prison" where He preached The Gospel to those in Satan's prison house, and He led out those who believed, which is why Peter spoke of their living in the spirit later in 1 Peter 4:

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
KJV

1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to Him That is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
KJV

(See also Isaiah 42:6-7 where Christ going to the prisoners that sat in darkness in the prison house would be released out of it.)

Then on the 3rd day, like Jesus prophesied, His flesh body was 'transfigured' to the Heavenly state, keeping the marks of His crucifixion. (Recall the mount of transfiguration when Peter saw Jesus speaking with Moses and Elijah, how Jesus' flesh body then was transfigured to that other dimension, temporarily).