Mary had more children than Jesus

[BreadOfLife]

I presume you are speaking of Jane Doe?
To be honest God alone knows her heart. You have no right to say if she is or is not born again Christian.

If you go back and re read the Forum rules , you will find it is against the rules to personally attack other members as “not Christians “ ( twice we have seen you attacking Amadeus...1) for being Oneness ...which he has made clear MORE THAN once that he “used to be”...but even if he still was, he is a legitimate member of this Site , 2) you attack him for not believing in the trinity ‘as you do’.

You are not the judge of the members here Core.

If you want a site free of any thing that you don’t personally agree with .....you have a Site of your own.
You are not the owner here, and amazingly , we are all allowed to post here!!

Cut him some slack.

His own site was a miserable failure, hence he HAD to come here to try and get recruits.
When nobody bit - he stayed here.

OUCH - that's GOTTA hurt . . .

 

[CoreIssue]

First of all - NO, I haven't. NOBODY has given ONE SHRED of evidence that Mary had other children.
Only that Jesus had "Adelphoi".

Secondly - YOU specifically made the following claim:
"Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom."

I asked YOU to show me that Chapter and Verse to substantiate this nonsense.
If you can't do that - then simply admit that you lied and move one . . .

That is your Catholic brainwashing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

That is your Catholic brainwashing.

Then it should be pretty dern easy to prove me wrong, now shouldn't it??
Show me the verse that says MARY had children other than Jesus.

Just ONE verse . . .

 

[CoreIssue]

First of all - NO, I haven't. NOBODY has given ONE SHRED of evidence that Mary had other children.
Only that Jesus had "Adelphoi".

Secondly - YOU specifically made the following claim:
"Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom."

I asked YOU to show me that Chapter and Verse to substantiate this nonsense.
If you can't do that - then simply admit that you lied and move one . . .

Only in your Catholic mind.

 

[CoreIssue]

Then it should be pretty dern easy to prove me wrong, now shouldn't it??
Show me the verse that says MARY had children other than Jesus.

Just ONE verse . . .

Several people have provided verses to you. You rejected them all with your Catholic nonsense.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Several people have provided verses to you. You rejected them all with your Catholic nonsense.

Uhhhhh, NO, they haven't.
Several people have provided verses of Scripture that say JESUS had "Adelphoi".

"Adelphos" can be shown in Scripture to mean:
- Uterine brother
- Half-brother
- Step-brother
- Cousin
- Uncle
- Neighbor
- Fellow Countryman
- Fellow Believer, etc.

Now - show me the verse that says MARY had other children.
CAN you do that??

I didn't think so . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Only in your Catholic mind.

So, are YOU saying that you cannot show me the verse that says what YOU claimed??
"Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom."

Is that what you are saying??

 

[CoreIssue]

So, are YOU saying that you cannot show me the verse that says what YOU claimed??
"Her other sons and daughters never referred to her as anything but mom."

Is that what you are saying??

You've already been shown verses.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You've already been shown verses.

Then remind me.
Show me the verses.

The fact is that you can't because NOBODY has presented any.

 

[CoreIssue]

Then remind me.
Show me the verses.

The fact is that you can't because NOBODY has presented any.

Pointless with you.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Pointless with you.

So, you have NO Scriptural evidence.
Why didn't you just admit that from the beginning??

We could have avoided 4 pages of arguments . . .

 

[CoreIssue]

So, you have NO Scriptural evidence.
Why didn't you just admit that from the beginning??

We could have avoided 4 pages of arguments . . .

None that you would accept.

 

[BreadOfLife]

None that you would accept.

TRY me.
I will read ANYTHING you have to offer and will give it a chance.

Why are you so afraid to bring your "evidence" to the table??
It SHOULD speak for itself, right??

 

[Taken]

BY the Power of God;
Mary had a Little Lamb.

BY the Power of Mankind;
Mary had sons and daughters.


Luke 1
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 1
[36] And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

Mark 6
[3] Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us?

Glory To God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

BY the Power of God;
Mary had a Little Lamb.

BY the Power of Mankind;
Mary had sons and daughters.

Luke 1
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 1
[36] And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

Mark 6
[3] Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us?

Glory To God,
Taken

WRONG.

NOBODY has children by the power of Mankind.
It's ALL done by the power of God. The Bible simply doesn't tell us about Mary having any other children.

The "Adelphoi" of Jesus that you mentioned are said to be the children of another Mary standing near the cross with Mary, Mother of Jesus:
Matt. 27:56 says, "…among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee".

Mark 15:40 states, "There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome").

Finally, John 19:25 states, "But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene".

When you compare the different accounts of the crucifixion, they clearly show the mother of James and Joseph (Joses) to be the wife of Clopas (also called, Alphaeus) – not Mary, the Mother of Jesus. Any attempt to connect these people as uterine brothers of Jesus are squashed by the Bible.