Matthew 28:19 and The Trinity

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Ah, the spelling mistakes, "cricified" "crucifiction"
I have already addressed the answer to to your question.
Next
J.

best you don't comment any more nonsense, and keep to strumming!

 

[Johann]

more nonsense!

Yeah?
Maybe you missed this one found in Scriptures.
Noticed you have 5 followers, interesting.
J.

 

[Johann]

best you don't comment any more nonsense, and keep to strumming!

Your back is against the wall, sophomore, play chess, "chach-mate"
J.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Your back is against the wall, sophomore, play chess, "chach-mate"
J.

you are now on ignore, as I have no time for self-important, foolish people!

 

[Johann]

If I don't understand, I don't post!

You have problems, then lets hear them on here. What you are trying to do is put on a side-show on how great you are, as if anyone is interested!

I have already "marked" you, according to the Scriptures.
J.

 

[Johann]

you are now on ignore, as I have no time for self-important, foolish people!

You just made my day!
J.

 

[Rita]

@Rita you said NOTHING!

Lol , yes I know I am using my phone and I keep pressing post by mistake, think you will find I have edited the post and added something.

 

[farouk]

Lol , yes I know I am using my phone and I keep pressing post by mistake, think you will find I have edited the post and added something.

@Rita I find that unless there is a large keyboard in front of me, it's really hard to type on a small, hand-held device...........

(Man with big fingers, I suppose; you ladies are sometimes much more dexterous on computers.....)

 

[Michiah-Imla]

God of the Holy Bible, Who is Three equal Persons in One Godhead, is the single most important subject

So you believe that something not expressly mentioned in scripture is the single most important subject than the gospel that is expressly mentioned and meticulously explained in scripture?

Ookay then…

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

So you believe that something not expressly mentioned in scripture is the single most important subject than the gospel that is expressly mentioned and meticulously explained in scripture?

Ookay then…

it is very clear in the Holy Bible, for those who the Lord has opened their eyes to this Great Truth.

 

[ChristisGod]

Just fed up with the same record being played over and over by certain members with regards to certain subjects ….it gets a bit boring. It’s borderline nagging , in my opinion xx

Are you a trinitarian ?

 

[ChristisGod]

No, the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ Jesus is the most important subject...or have you forgotten?
J.

Yes and the bodily Resurrection is at the heart/core of the gospel. Jesus said all the law, psalms and the prophets are about Him and the work of the Holy Spirit is to point us to Him and Glorify the Son. And the gospel message is what brings that glory to a lost and dying world. The only way the cross worked is because Jesus was/is the Perfect Mediator between God and man, representing both parties as both God and man. The Incarnation was/is the perfect solution to sin, death, the devil and the afterlife. Its all wrapped up perfectly in Christ, God manifest in the flesh. Our Great God and Savior. Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1

 

[Rita]

Are you a trinitarian ?

Yes, why ?

 

[ChristisGod]

Yes, why ?

I was just wondering is all but I’m happy to hear you are

 

[Enoch111]

I am not popular on this forum, but then, who wants to be popular?

I believe Johann wants to be popular. :cool:

 

[Rita]

@ByGraceThroughFaith
I need to apologise for publically calling you out about your thread yesterday , although my frustrations are real , they are linked to many people who post similar threads while existing threads on the subject are still active.
I made it personal with you and that was wrong.
Very sorry x
Rita

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

@ByGraceThroughFaith
I need to apologise for publically calling you out about your thread yesterday , although my frustrations are real , they are linked to many people who post similar threads while existing threads on the subject are still active.
I made it personal with you and that was wrong.
Very sorry x
Rita

Hi Rita, thanks. have a wonderful day and may the Lord richly bless you, Andy

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

No, the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ Jesus is the most important subject...or have you forgotten?
J.

The Kingdom of God is a far more important subject, because that's the gospel that Christ actually declared. Jesus is not the most important subject there is. The Father is. Even after Jesus was resurrected, He continued to preach His Father as being the most important subject.

It seems like nowadays the Father is only important enough to mention when someone wants to defend the trinity doctrine. Jesus is the Head of the Church, but the Father is the Head of the Family. As Jhn 1 says, Christ came to declare the Father. Jesus had an extremely monumental role to play, but a lot of "Christians" seem to forget that Jesus said that He was a Messenger, and a messenger is not more important than, or even as important as, the party that sent them.

 

[Johann]

The Kingdom of God is a far more important subject, because that's the gospel that Christ actually declared. Jesus is not the most important subject there is. The Father is. Even after Jesus was resurrected, He continued to preach His Father as being the most important subject.

It seems like nowadays the Father is only important enough to mention when someone wants to defend the trinity doctrine. Jesus is the Head of the Church, but the Father is the Head of the Family. As Jhn 1 says, Christ came to declare the Father. Jesus had an extremely monumental role to play, but a lot of "Christians" seem to forget that Jesus said that He was a Messenger, and a messenger is not more important than, or even as important as, the party that sent them.

Incorrect, I stand by what I have posted...


1Co 2:1 Preaching in the Power of God
¶ When I came to you, brothers, I didn’t come and tell you about God’s secret [Other mss. read testimony] with rhetorical language or wisdom.
1Co 2:2 For while I was with you I resolved to know nothing except Jesus the Messiah, [Or Christ] and him crucified.

1Co 2:2 For I made the decision not to have da'as of anything among you except Moshiach and nivlato al haEtz (his body –gufa, kerper--on the Tree Boim (Yiddish for tree), DEVARIM 21:23).
OJB

1) "For I determined." (Greek gar ekrina) "For I made a decision, judgment, or determined". Men’s actions, as Christians and ministers of Christ, are of their own will, volition, choice or decision, not by compulsion.
2) "Not to know anything among you." (Greek ou ti eidenai) "Not to know or perceive anything." (Greek en humin) "Among you" . . . Paul determined not to present himself, his Greek, Hebrew, or Latin or philosophy as a basis of being known among the brethren. Act_20:18-27.
3) "Save Jesus Christ." (Greek ei me iesoun Christon) "If not or except Jesus Christ." This indicates Paul’s sincere desire to present Jesus Christ, not himself or his own wisdom and person (Gal_6:14; 1Co_10:24).
4) "And him crucified." (Greek kai touton estauromenon) "And this one having been crucified." Gal_2:20; Tit_3:5; 1Co_1:17; 1Co_1:31.
Garner-Howes

Hmm..

I determined not to know any thing among you - Satisfied that the Gospel of God could alone make you wise unto salvation, I determined to cultivate no other knowledge, and to teach nothing but Jesus Christ, and him crucified, as the foundation of all true wisdom, piety, and happiness. No other doctrine shall I proclaim among you.

Yup, preach nothing but Christ, Him crucified, Him resurrected


1Co 15:1 Now I'm making known to you, brothers, the gospel that I proclaimed to you, which you accepted, on which you have taken your stand,
1Co 15:2 and by which you are also being saved if you hold firmly to the message I proclaimed to you—unless, of course, your faith was worthless.
1Co 15:3 For I passed on to you the most important points that I received: The Messiah died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
1Co 15:4 he was buried, he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures—and is still alive!— Can you get excited?
1Co 15:5 and he was seen by Cephas, and then by the Twelve.
1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen by more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have died.
1Co 15:7 Next he was seen by James, then by all the apostles,
1Co 15:8 and finally he was seen by me, as though I were born abnormally late.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles and not even fit to be called an apostle because I persecuted God's church.
1Co 15:10 But by God's grace I am what I am, and his grace shown to me was not wasted. Instead, I worked harder than all the others—not I, of course, but God's grace that was with me.
1Co 15:11 So, whether it was I or the others, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.

J.

 

[Johann]

I believe Johann wants to be popular. :cool:

I believe Johann wants to stay unpopular, better that way.
J.