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Quote where I judged you.Then you're going against forum rules since you're judging me right?
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You made a HUGE mistake going to Kingdom Hall to educate you about the Christian Bible.you keep saying that if I don't change my path and start believing like you I'm going to hell along with other JW and therefore won't be in Gods kingdom. You say in post #161: "If I hated you I wouldn't be trying keep you from going to Hell forever and ever with Kingdom Hall." So when I said if you don't change your path you won't be in God's kingdom you're saying the same thing if I don't change.
Yes! The worst is SOON to come on humanity, but by satan's hand.We've just got a glimpse of Satan. Yes he is very subtle. He knows his time is short and I believe the WORST is soon to come on humanity. How many nukes are ready to fire in an instant on Earth? Are you Preterist?
Matthew 24:21-22 (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
The scriptures tell us that all scripture is inspired by God to teach us the truth. So in scripture the spirit person who bears the name Michael is referred to as, "one of the chief princes," " the great prince who has charge of your [Daniel's] people," and as " the archangel."(Daniel 10:13;12:1; Jude 9) Michael means "who is like God" This Archangel Michael is the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah's sovereignty and destroying God's enemies. Why at 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is Jesus command regarding the resurrection to begin described as "the archangel call" and Jude 9 says the archangel is Michael. Do you think it's appropriate to liken Jesus commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority to him? Because I don't. It's reasonable for me to believe that the archangel is Jesus Christ. You and others will believe that their is someone else other than God and his only begotten son who has equal authority to them in regard to resurrecting the dead. I do not. So since an archangel call is what resurrects the dead, the archangel is Jesus Christ
Excellent!!!Your problem is scripture says Jesus created everything that was made, without exception- thus in order to be a created being called the angel Michael, He had to create Himself, too.
Michael dared not strongly rebuke Satan, but had to say, the Lord rebuke you. Jude 1:9
Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth, Michael does not.
And no fallen angel could prevent Jesus from going anywhere for 21 days, but was able to hold off Michael from going to Daniel that long.
Jesus returns and an angel blows the trumpet and shouts, but it’s Jesus that raises the dead, not an angel.
Regarding the body Jesus was resurrected with after his death, 1Corinthians 15: 42-50 tells us he was resurrected with a spirit body. The only ones who saw Jesus after his resurrection were his Apostles and disciples, Including the 500. 1Corinthians 15:6 shows that the 500 which saw Jesus were brothers, believers. Ask yourself a question why is it that the Roman guards who were guarding Jesus grave saw the door to the grave open and saw the two angels but they didn't see Jesus. Only believers in Jesus saw him after his resurrection. Jesus, because he was resurrected a powerful immortal and incorruptible spirit being, could manifest himself with a fleshly body so his Apostles and disciples could see him. But Jesus was resurrected as a life giving spirit who was immortal and incorruptible. 1Corinthians 15:42-50 shows that Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body. You can argue any way you want but Jesus was a human in the likeness of the first human Adam when he was on earth before his death, he was not immortal nor incorruptible before his death otherwise he would not been able to experience death. Being immortal means you're beyond death. Jesus wasn't resurrected as a human when he was resurrected because no human including Jesus has ever been immortal or incorruptible. Jesus wasn't resurrected with a human body, he sacrificed that human body willingly for mankind. Jesus himself said to his Apostles and disciples before he died that the world would never see him again and no unbeliever has. John 14:19
Regarding when Jesus ascended to heaven, only believers, Jesus Apostles and disciples saw this happen, the world in general, unbelievers, never saw this happen. Jesus second presence will be quietly, the world in general, unbelievers, will not believe this happens just as the Jews in general, unbelievers, didn't know Jesus ascension happened. Only believers will know that Jesus second presence has begun.
I know if you don't change your path you will not be in Gods kingdom
Well darn, just when you started getting interesting you start sounding like a Preterist!Satan's end goal is world Peace and safety, but the process for him to achieve that, shall be utter Global Chaos.
Your problem is scripture says Jesus created everything that was made, without exception- thus in order to be a created being called the angel Michael, He had to create Himself, too.
Michael dared not strongly rebuke Satan, but had to say, the Lord rebuke you. Jude 1:9
Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth, Michael does not.
And no fallen angel could prevent Jesus from going anywhere for 21 days, but was able to hold off Michael from going to Daniel that long.
Jesus returns and an angel blows the trumpet and shouts, but it’s Jesus that raises the dead, not an angel.
Have you read the NWT Barney? It says Jesus is God and Hell is eternal. Don't believe Kingdom Hall Satanic lies!God created his only begotten Son and then all other person's and everything else was created through God's only Begotten Son. The book of Revelation shows us that The Only Begotten Son of God was the beginning of creation.(Revelation 3:14) Colossians 1:15 shows also that Jesus is part of creation. The phrase, "the firstborn of" is used in the scriptures upwards of at least thirty times before Colossians 1:15 and each and every time consistently when dealing with living creatures whether they be animals or human what is said to be firstborn is part of the group. For example, "the firstborn of" Egypt, are people in the nation of Egypt. "The firstborn of" Israel, are people in that nation of Israel. This is consistent in scripture. So the Only Begotten Son of God is shown in scripture to part of creation.
The scriptures show at Daniel 10:13 that it was another angel of God that was detained for 21 days and Michael came to the rescue of that Angel. No one prevented Michael.
I've never said the Only Begotten Son of God wouldn't raise the the dead, I said that the Only Begotten Son of God is the same as Michael, which would explain why the Only Begotten Son of God call when the resurrection begins is likened to the archangel call. If Michael the archangel isn't the Only Begotten Son of God why would a angel have equal authority of the resurrection. It's in scripture that it's the Only Begotten Son of God who has the keys of hades/hell
Have you read the NWT Barney? It says Jesus is God and Hell is eternal. Don't believe Kingdom Hall Satanic lies!
God created his only begotten Son and then all other person's and everything else was created through God's only Begotten Son. The book of Revelation shows us that The Only Begotten Son of God was the beginning of creation.(Revelation 3:14) Colossians 1:15 shows also that Jesus is part of creation.
Firstborn of all creation means He has the preeminence over all creation - it’s a well known Jewish idiom.
When it says in Revelation 3:14 He’s the beginning of Gods creation, it means He’s the author of creation, not the first to be created, as various translations show:
ISV:
Rev 3:14 "To the messenger of the church in Laodicea, write: 'The Amen, the witness who is faithful and true, the originator of God's creation, says this:
TLV:
Rev 3:14 To the angel of Messiah’s community in Laodicea write: “Thus says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Originator of God’s creation:
Scripture is clear that Jesus is only the begotten Son in that God made a body for Him to inhabit at His incarnation:
Heb 10:5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me;
And verses 16 and 17 put Colossians 1:15 into context - Jesus made all things, and is BEFORE all things - He obviously had to create Himself if He was the first to be created.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Shalom.