CharismaticLady
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eagerly desire
ζηλοῦτε (zēloute)
Verb - Present Imperative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 2206: From zelos; to have warmth of feeling for or against.
So what are they?
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eagerly desire
ζηλοῦτε (zēloute)
Verb - Present Imperative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 2206: From zelos; to have warmth of feeling for or against.
eagerly desire
ζηλοῦτε (zēloute)
Verb - Present Imperative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 2206: From zelos; to have warmth of feeling for or against.
Miracles, signs and wonders were actually very rare over the past 6000 years of biblical history. God used those signs when He was giving new revelation to authenticate the messenger was speaking on behalf of YHWH. We see the major times below:
1- When God used Moses during the time of the Law and when God was using Moses to free His people from Pharaoh
2- During the time of the Prophets when God used those signs Elijah and Elisha
3- When Jesus came on the scene His Miracles were proof He came from God and authenticated His message was from the Father. He told the Pharisees if you do not believe Me then believe the Miracles. John 3:2 John 5:36 John 10:38
4- The Apostles who were revealing the gospel to the nations/peoples both Jews and Gentiles. Acts 4:10-16
2 Corinthians 12:12
The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs and wonders and miracles.
Jesus said an evil generation seeks miracles. Matthew 12:39 Matthew 16:4
So we can see that the Miracles authenticated that the message came from God.
God is no longer giving new revelation and Paul says the coming evil one will deceive everyone with his false signs and miracles. 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Jesus said in Matthew 24:24 the same thing about false miracles, signs and wonders before His 2nd Coming,
hope this helps !!!
Signs and wonders still follow them that believe.Miracles, signs and wonders were actually very rare over the past 6000 years of biblical history. God used those signs when He was giving new revelation to authenticate the messenger was speaking on behalf of YHWH. We see the major times below:
1- When God used Moses during the time of the Law and when God was using Moses to free His people from Pharaoh
2- During the time of the Prophets when God used those signs Elijah and Elisha
3- When Jesus came on the scene His Miracles were proof He came from God and authenticated His message was from the Father. He told the Pharisees if you do not believe Me then believe the Miracles. John 3:2 John 5:36 John 10:38
4- The Apostles who were revealing the gospel to the nations/peoples both Jews and Gentiles. Acts 4:10-16
2 Corinthians 12:12
The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs and wonders and miracles.
Jesus said an evil generation seeks miracles. Matthew 12:39 Matthew 16:4
So we can see that the Miracles authenticated that the message came from God.
God is no longer giving new revelation and Paul says the coming evil one will deceive everyone with his false signs and miracles. 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Jesus said in Matthew 24:24 the same thing about false miracles, signs and wonders before His 2nd Coming,
hope this helps !!!
sure and that miracle, sign, wonder is the greatest of them allSigns and wonders still follow them that believe.
It takes the new birth to be a believer, qualifying us for signs and wonders following. God still does miracles today.sure and that miracle, sign, wonder is the greatest of them all
The NEW BIRTH, BORN AGAIN, GOD DWELLING IN MAN. We ARE the TEMPLE of the LORD.
Sure God does miracles but there are no miracle workers like Moses, Elijah, Jesus and the Apostles today. That ended with the Apostles. So anyone claiming the ability to perform miracles come from the evil one below according to Jesus and Paul. Anyone who believes that scriptures says is deceived.It takes the new birth to be a believer, qualifying us for signs and wonders following. God still does miracles today.
Those are replicas.Sure God does miracles but there are no miracle workers like Moses, Elijah, Jesus and the Apostles today. That ended with the Apostles. So anyone claiming the ability to perform miracles come from the evil one below according to Jesus and Paul. Anyone who believes that scriptures says is deceived.
Paul says the coming evil one will deceive everyone with his false signs and miracles. 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Jesus said in Matthew 24:24 the same thing about false miracles, signs and wonders before His 2nd Coming,
hope this helps !!!
not.............Those are replicas.
The believer, according to Jesus, will be followed by signs and wonders.
God still does miracles, whether you approve of them or not.
Paul says the coming evil one will deceive everyone with his false signs and miracles. 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Jesus said in Matthew 24:24 the same thing about false miracles, signs and wonders before His 2nd Coming,
During the Tribulation God sends His 2 messengers ( most likely Moses/Elijah) who will perform miracles but until then its deception as Jesus taught in Matthew 24 and Paul in 2 Thessalonians. Its really the plain teaching by Jesus and Paul in those passages.Hey!
Another problem with your theory here is that it posits that Satan will be allowed to do great supernatural works during the end-times to deceive the world but the Lord will not display His own power to dissuade any of it. This is a very unnatural position to take, especially in light of the full context of passages like 2 Thessalonians. But let me ask you: If Joel 2:28 is true (which it is), then how is it that no supernatural gifts of God will be in manifestation during the end-times?
God bless. Btw, did you see that Fishing thread I tagged you for? I figured that would be something you found interesting.
During the Tribulation God sends His 2 messengers ( most likely Moses/Elijah) who will perform miracles but until then its deception as Jesus taught in Matthew 24 and Paul in 2 Thessalonians. Its really the plain teaching by Jesus and Paul in those passages.
hope this helps !!!
fulfilled at Pentecost and during the time of the Apostles.I'll let you know when it helps, LoL.
We can cover the entire passage of 2 Thessalonians 2 but that would be a ton of teaching I don't really have time for anyway. But I was more specifically looking for a response to what I asked you about Joel 2:28.
During the Tribulation God sends His 2 messengers ( most likely Moses/Elijah) who will perform miracles but until then its deception as Jesus taught in Matthew 24 and Paul in 2 Thessalonians. Its really the plain teaching by Jesus and Paul in those passages.
hope this helps !!!
fulfilled at Pentecost and during the time of the Apostles.
Remember the end times began after His 1st Coming during the era of the Apostles.
another false claim. I said miracles, signs, wonders ie the sign gifts.That sounds like you believe no gifts of the Spirit will manifest until the two witnesses. Then what gifts are they that you say you have? You seem to admit to nothing.
easy that is during the Tribulation when Gods Divine wrath is being poured out upon all flesh.That's the usual answer. But the next question is this: If it was fulfilled completely during the New Testament era, what happened to the fulfillment of the rest of the passage? (Joel 2:28-31)
I need to go walk and pray. I'll check back later. God bless!
another false claim. I said miracles, signs, wonders ie the sign gifts.
The gifts that build up the body will be active until the Resurrection of the saints.