Wick Stick
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It does, but, um... they're basically the same names as the ones in the genealogy of Cain in the prior chapter:Gen 5 gives us the generations of Adam to Noah. Gen 6 picks up right where Gen 5 leaves off.
Cain -> Cainan
Enoch -> Enoch
Irad -> Jared
Mehujael -> Mahalaleel
Methsael -> Methuselah
Lamech -> Lamech
If that's literal, it's one heckuva coincidence. Then again, Jesus and Paul tell us to ignore genealogies.
Is there another layer of meaning? Absolutely. If we look at the meanings of those names, they are a sort of downward spiral. Enoch means "to set up" but then Jared/Irad means "to go down" and we progress downwards til Methuselah which is basically "rest in peace."
Yep. The Generations of Noah, and The Generations of Shem, Ham, and Japheth come from a common source, and it's pretty easy to trace it to the area of Ararat - a civilization that archaeologists call Urartu (same word). But it isn't the same source as The Generations of Adam.Gen 9 tells us that from Noah's three sons and their wives, the whole earth is populated.
The records on Abram/Abraham duplicate themselves, sometimes with small differences (e.g. the treaty with Abimelech over the well of Beersheba). That's because they come from 2 sources. One handed down through Jacob/Israel, and one handed down through Esau/Edom. That's also the reason why everybody has 2 names.Gen 16 introduces a guy named Abraham and follows his family line. (it's all pretty chronological)
Yeah. So, something funky in this chapter is that we get 2 section titles that are only 8 verses apart.Gen 36 accounts the generations of Edom. And this you contend is actually what Genesis 2- Gen 5 is referencing? --I can't help you there.
v. 1 Now these are the generations of Esau, who is Edom.
v. 9 And these are the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in mount Seir
It's not strange that there are 2 duplicate sections. What's strange is that every other statement of this sort comes with several chapters of content. My hypothesis here is that a big chunk of The Generations of Esau who is Edom was re-located within the compilation of books, and probably should be here instead.
It's talking about abandoning one's parentage. That turns out to be important later in Jesus' teachings... one has to leave behind their old parents to be adopted unto Christ. To put a philosophical spin on it... a man's destiny is largely tied to his clan and heredity... Priests begat priests, and carpenters begat carpenters. So then, for a man to change his destiny, he needs to change his clan and heredity. The old parents must be relegated for the new Parent to adopt.But it does seem that you do understand what "leaving your father and mother" must mean in the physical sense. What might if refer to in a spiritual sense? You say- there is...
Rarely.According to nurture and nature, you do seem to understand where babies physically come from. Does God violate nature?
Birth always comes through water. Shall we quibble over how literal the water is?If spirit gives birth to spirit (and flesh to flesh) -in the spiritual sense, where do babies come from?