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[Behold]

* Gods Spirit “IN” a man......CAN NEVER Leave that man.

See what you wrote?

You wrote this...

Romans 8:9

That is what the Grace hating heretics maliciously define as "OSAS".
They cannot understand what you wrote, or what Paul teaches as our Eternal Life, 'In Christ".
What you wrote, is why being born again, can't be undone, omitted, or changed, or "lost".

 

[Taken]

See what you wrote?

That is what the Grace hating heretics maliciously define as "OSAS".
They cannot understand what you wrote, or what Paul teaches as our Eternal Life, 'In Christ".
What you wrote, is why being born again, can't be undone, omitted, or changed.

SEE what YOU wrote?

Direct Opposites ...
OSAS....your express opinion of “grace hating heretics”.
“Born again can not be undone, omitted or changed.”

What do you think Once a man IS Saved, he is Always Saved means...?
It means his Salvation CAN NOT be undone, omitted, changed! Duh...OSAS.
It means his Salvation IS always, FOREVER.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

IF you murder....who?
A man? That is a Trespass against that man.
God? How can one murder God? Scripture tells us HOW. Scripture tells us WHO first committed murder? It was Lucifer. He murdered God, BY KILLING Gods (TRUE) Word. Murdering “God” is KILLING, or otherwise TURNING Gods TRUTH into a LIE.

Men who believe, who doubt, who vacillate, can certainly KILL the Word of God, which IS a sin Against God.
Men who are Converted, do not doubt, do not vacillate, do not Only Believe, but have Confessed their belief, have Confessed their repentance for having NOT Believed....and once Converted sin no more.

SIN is AGAINST God.
Only God forgives SIN.
Men trespass against men ALL THE TIME. Intentionally AND Unintentionally.
Men are to FORGIVE men of trespasses.
Men who FORGIVE men of trespasses, SO ALSO shall God forgive that man of his OWN Committed Trespasses.

If A man commits KILLING another man...that is a TRESPASS God CAN Forgive.
If A man commits MURDER of an other man...that is a TRESPASS God CAN Forgive.
Remembering God Forgives Trespasses of Men WHOM such men ALSO forgive Trespasses Against them.

Gentiles teach, they are NO LONGER under the Law. They were NEVER UNDER the LAW!
IN Mosaic LAW...SIN was not ONLY against God, it was VIOLATION of the LAW....and that included men SINNING (violating a LAW, AGAINST a man).


Gentiles, claiming they are “no longer” under the law, is a fallacy.
Gentiles, claiming men sin against men, is a fallacy.
A Gentiles SIN IS AGAINST (disbelief) IN God and has nothing to do with “other” men or the Mosaic Law.




Remember, much of the NT was BY JEWS TO the Jews. They had been Under the Law for 4,000 years, and the walking, boating, travel was slow, and the SCANT visits and letters to towns and cities, was nothing like today, of weekly teaching, tv, radio, internet. It was a complete strange teaching, to see this man, (Jesus), with no home, no wealth, no kingdom, no army, preaching He had come to Save the Jews, who were StiLL following OT Mosaic Law.
Of course there were many skeptics, confused, Jews.

Converted men CAN NOT Speak AGAINST God.
They HAVE the Spirit of God, ALMIGHTY POWER “IN” them....they asked for that....and they received that....and NEVER would Gods Spirit BE IN a man, WHILE a man IS standing AGAINST God.

Glory to God,
Taken

I understand trespasses differently than you seem to. Murder is against God's Ten Commandments. That is lawlessness, and a sin UNTO DEATH. A trespass is committed against one another because of immature fruit of the Spirit and is a sin NOT UNTO DEATH. And yes, we must forgive others their trespasses against us, and God will forgive our own trespasses. Murder is not immature fruit. It is in rebellion against God's Commands.

 

[Behold]

What do you think Once a man IS Saved, he is Always Saved means...?

"Once a man is saved" means they are born again.
You can't stop being born again, as Birth can't be undone .
Its already happened.

You have a bible.
Read the NT 899 times trying to find a verse that says you can be "un-born again".

A.) It does not exist.

Why?
Because its not possible to stop being Spiritually BORN Again., as that is God caused, and continued.

"God who started salvation in all the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it".

There is your Salvation. Its God caused, God Kept, and God completed.
Just ask Jesus on the Cross, if you dont BELIEVE IT, .. Taken.... Johann, and others...
Ask Him why your salvation, according to Jesus...........is completed......He said "IT IS Finished".
He is not lying, so, believe Him.

This is why Jesus is the "author and FINISHER of your FAITH".

This is why Jesus told you, that "you shall never PERISH" if you believe in Him, as He then gives you Eternal Life, and Eternal life is not Temporary.

That is not "OSAS"... that is the Blood Atonement and the Gift of Salvation.
That is GOD's Grace.
That is to become : Born Again

 

[Behold]

I understand trespasses differently than you seem to. Murder is against God's Ten Commandments. That is lawlessness, and a sin UNTO DEATH.

If you are a jew under the Law of Moses, and not a NT Covenant believer who is "not under the law, but under Grace"......then what you said is true.

 

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I understand trespasses differently than you seem to. Murder is against God's Ten Commandments. That is lawlessness, and a sin UNTO DEATH.

God is the forgiver of Sin AND trespasses.
Man is the forgiver of Trespasses
All body’s shall die.
The Righteous and Murderers.

A trespass is committed against one another because of immature fruit of the Spirit

So when you bump into someone rounding a corner in the grocery store...
It was a Trespass, and that was committed from being immature fruit of the Spirit? Man is NOT all knowing. Men Trespass all day long. It’s the Forgiveness that matters.

and is a sin NOT UNTO DEATH.

Disagree sin is a trespass.
Scripture says...
Eph 2:
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Why the conjunctive word “AND” if they are the same thing?

 

[Taken]

"Once a man is saved" means they are born again.
You can't stop being born again, as Birth can't be undone .
Its already happened.

You have a bible.
Read the NT 899 times trying to find a verse that says you can be "un-born again".

A.) It does not exist.

Why?
Because its not possible to stop being Spiritually BORN Again., as that is God caused, and continued.

"God who started salvation in all the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it".

There is your Salvation. Its God caused, God Kept, and God completed.
Just ask Jesus on the Cross, if you dont BELIEVE IT, .. Taken.... Johann, and others...
Ask Him why your salvation, according to Jesus...........is completed......He said "IT IS Finished".
He is not lying, so, believe Him.

This is why Jesus is the "author and FINISHER of your FAITH".

This is why Jesus told you, that "you shall never PERISH" if you believe in Him, as He then gives you Eternal Life, and Eternal life is not Temporary.

That is not "OSAS"... that is the Blood Atonement and the Gift of Salvation.
That is GOD's Grace.
That is to become : Born Again

No need to go off on a tangent, of a presence that I do not understand BORN AGAIN. I have been clear of what that means, if you want to disagree with my position quote me and disagree, but don’t pretend I am saying what I have NOT said.

Saved ONCE and ALWAYS, is the exact Parallel of Converted ONCE permanently.