new version of OSAS?

[BloodBought 1953]

Very true, but I am not sure what you are saying, unless it is that man can fall away (change) and lose their salvation which is exactly right.
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I have roughly 400 Bible verses that say you are Wrong....What do you have to prove that you are right?

Let me help you and your side ....you have 200 verses that “ appear” to support your Doctrine——all 200 verses have one of two problems......they are either taken out of context or they are not talking about “ The Body Of Christ”......

 

[Cooper]

I have Warned you in the Past! Don’t you EVER accuse me of Promoting this so- called “Hyper- Grace!”

I Promote “ SUPER” HYPER GRACE ! Please......never forget that !

Thanks for the admission.
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[Cooper]

I have roughly 400 Bible verses that say you are Wrong....What do you have to prove that you are right?

Let me help you and your side ....you have 200 verses that “ appear” to support your Doctrine——all 200 verses have one of two problems......they are either taken out of context or they are not talking about “ The Body Of Christ”......

As the disciples would have said, "You are not one of us."
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[Cooper]

I have roughly 400 Bible verses that say you are Wrong....What do you have to prove that you are right?

Let me help you and your side ....you have 200 verses that “ appear” to support your Doctrine——all 200 verses have one of two problems......they are either taken out of context or they are not talking about “ The Body Of Christ”......

That is dangerous talk.
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[Cooper]

Adam and Eve were saved in the end.....they Were just like us , if you are a Believer .....God provided them with a Blood Sacrifice That pointed to Jesus and the Cross...They put their Faith in the Shed Blood Of an Innocent That God provided....it’s a “picture” of Jesus and His Shed Blood...

After he had expelled the man, the LORD God placed winged angels at the eastern end of the garden of Eden, along with a fiery whirling sword, to prevent access to the tree of life. (Gen 3:24 ISV)

Adams's punishment is that he was permanently barred from the tree of eternal life.

So it is with all those who disobey the Almighty.
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[Addy]

As the disciples would have said, "You are not one of us."
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NOPE.... BB certainly isn't a LEGALIST... therefore definitely NOT one of 'us' in the context which you mean.
and that is a very GOOD THING.... it's a HOPEFUL thing... BB knows how to REST in the GOSPEL... and he shares
his knowledge and JOY with others.... another very GOOD THING.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Thanks for the admission.
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I say it will all the Pride that I can conjure up ! Not “ pride “ in myself—— Pride in my Savior...
I know Him.How about you?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That is dangerous talk.
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Only if one considers Facts and the Truth “ dangerous”...

 

[BloodBought 1953]

After he had expelled the man, the LORD God placed winged angels at the eastern end of the garden of Eden, along with a fiery whirling sword, to prevent access to the tree of life. (Gen 3:24 ISV)

Adams's punishment is that he was permanently barred from the tree of eternal life.

So it is with all those who disobey the Almighty.
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In the future...Adam will be partaking Of that tree, just as we will....God provided Adam with a Blood Sacrifice that Covered His Sins...

 

[Corlove13]

You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
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Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
John 15

 

[BloodBought 1953]

So it is with all those who disobey the Almighty.


.......and that would be YOU! and myself....Especially myself....
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[Cooper]

NOPE.... BB certainly isn't a LEGALIST... therefore definitely NOT one of 'us' in the context which you mean.
and that is a very GOOD THING.... it's a HOPEFUL thing... BB knows how to REST in the GOSPEL... and he shares
his knowledge and JOY with others.... another very GOOD THING.

LEGALIST. So now you bin the teaching of Jesus in the sermon on the mount. The deceiver will love that.
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[Addy]

@Cooper ... me thinks you and your little period (.) at the end of each of your posts just likes to ARGUE.
You should all head over to the guy's house who has that amazing LIBRARY worth $40,000.00... and compare notes
in your BE GOOD journals. LOL

 

[Michiah-Imla]

The Israelites had their chance at Sinai to choose between Grace and Law—- they chose the Latter....

Where is your proof text for this nonsense?

This is what God’s purpose was at the mount:

"And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not." (Exodus 20:20)

 

[Cooper]

@Cooper ... me thinks you and your little period (.) at the end of each of your posts just likes to ARGUE.
You should all head over to the guy's house who has that amazing LIBRARY worth $40,000.00... and compare notes
in your BE GOOD journals. LOL

Jesus taught us to 'BE GOOD' but it seems unnecessary because of His grace. This is dreadful.
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[Michiah-Imla]

And Paul says:

"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." (1 Corinthians 10:11)

And what was one of those examples?

"And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not." (Exodus 20:20)

Because:

"…let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." (1 Corinthians 10:12)

Paul said nothing about a choice between grace and law.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Jesus taught us to 'BE GOOD' but it seems unnecessary because of His grace. This is dreadful.

Indeed!

Because the scripture says:

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12)

 

[Addy]

Jesus taught us to 'BE GOOD' but it seems unnecessary because of His grace. This is dreadful.

My Dear Cooper... WHAT is DREADFUL is the group of believers who would DARE accuse one another of NOT being GOOD ENOUGH... they are the ones who are in SCRIPTURAL error... by adding their filthy rags of behaviour to the BLOOD ATONEMENT. This debate ALWAYS goes the same way... the Legalists ACCUSE the GRACE side of CONDONING sin... of ENCOURAGING SIN... of ABUSING the GRACE of GOD.... of living SINFUL lives themselves... that is what is DREADFUL.... Jesus taught us that HE is GOOD... and that because HE is GOOD...we are invited to follow HIM... THE fruit that comes from GRACE is natural goodness... It flows from a loving and trusting relationship with CHRIST.... however.... the fruit that comes from LEGALISM is this self-sufficient BE GOOD and DO GOOD mentality that births hypocrisy and harsh judgement... It's all in WHO you believe... EITHER Christ paid the penalty for sin... or Cooper did.... and that is a scary thought... LOL

 

[Michiah-Imla]

WHAT is DREADFUL is the group of believers who would DARE accuse one another of NOT being GOOD ENOUGH... they are the ones who are in SCRIPTURAL error... by adding their filthy rags of behaviour to the BLOOD ATONEMENT

What is “dreadful” are people like you that have closed their ears to all reasoning out of the scriptures.

By the way, the good works of unbelievers are filthy rags! Not the good works of the saints:

"Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God." (Romans 6:13)

@Addy you should open your ears and soberly test what we say by the scriptures, not by what men have taught you what “the scriptures mean”.

 

[Cooper]

My Dear Cooper... WHAT is DREADFUL is the group of believers who would DARE accuse one another of NOT being GOOD ENOUGH... they are the ones who are in SCRIPTURAL error... by adding their filthy rags of behaviour to the BLOOD ATONEMENT. This debate ALWAYS goes the same way... the Legalists ACCUSE the GRACE side of CONDONING sin... of ENCOURAGING SIN... of ABUSING the GRACE of GOD.... of living SINFUL lives themselves... that is what is DREADFUL.... Jesus taught us that HE is GOOD... and that because HE is GOOD...we are invited to follow HIM... THE fruit that comes from GRACE is natural goodness... It flows from a loving and trusting relationship with CHRIST.... however.... the fruit that comes from LEGALISM is this self-sufficient BE GOOD and DO GOOD mentality that births hypocrisy and harsh judgement... It's all in WHO you believe... EITHER Christ paid the penalty for sin... or Cooper did.... and that is a scary thought... LOL

Wait till judgement day.
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