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new version of OSAS?
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No doubts....Of course Christ is our Lord that saves us, made all possible by his Father.
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If they would stop fighting a term, OSAS, I think they may be open to understanding what we really believe
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This is the thing that concerns us all, I think! We believe we are saved, but we still see too much flesh to be comfortable in our salvation.
What you've said is exactly true as I see it, knowing that God will save us at the last is what gives us what we need to overcome sin in our lives today.
Struggling with the one causes struggling with the other. Law provokes sin.
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It’s why paul considered all his suffering a momentary light affliction
this life is so short compared to eternity,
Rather,
Behold, the Lamb of God, that carries away the sin of the world.
God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses against them.
God removed sin in Christ, reconciling you to Himself. What remains is that you receive the reconciliation.
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Well, apparently there are some who does not realize that, for while they are aware that God disciplines any and all of His erring children, they realize not it is not the illegitimate ones that He disciplines. And they fail to realize that God disciplines them for their good, and God will not fail nor will He give up until He had accomplished His purpose in doing so.This is something you have to completely ignore the implications in order to think you might "depart" from your salvation. God's not going to let you get away with it.
One of His exceeding great and precious promises!
He WILL discipline you, and it WILL be effective! Oh He will not let you go, no, He will not let you go. He is never weary, and He will not let you go!
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We aren't saved to "do". We are saved to "be". Salvation is a relationship. We are restored to fellowship with our Creator.
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No, sins were covered, but not removed. Animal blood and the blood of the Son of God are not the same in efficacy, as if Jesus blood were no better than a goat's blood.
Once again, this is an end run to try and sneak OT definitions into NT theology. As if the forgiveness of sin in Christ were the same as having offered a bull.
Hebrews 10:1-4 LITV
1) For the Law had a shadow of the coming good things, not the image itself of those things. Appearing year by year with the same sacrifices, which they offer continually, they never are able to perfect the ones drawing near.
2) Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered? Because those serving did not still have conscience of sins, having once been cleansed.
3) But in these there is a remembrance of sins year by year,
4) for it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
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Hebrews 10:1-4 LITV
1) For the Law had a shadow of the coming good things, not the image itself of those things. Appearing year by year with the same sacrifices, which they offer continually, they never are able to perfect the ones drawing near.
2) Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered? Because those serving did not still have conscience of sins, having once been cleansed.
3) But in these there is a remembrance of sins year by year,
4) for it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
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He claims many things. I don't find his claims credible, myself. I've seen too many times where he re-words people's posts into something they didn't say, as if they had, then fault them on that.
It's dishonest, and someone who will do that to others, I feel no assurance that they won't equally misrepresent themself.
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That’s right, Jesus Christ is Lord, the one and only Savior of man from sin and death, and from all there is that is evil. For there are not two Lords, but one. There are not two saviors but one. There are not two King of Israel but one. There are not two King of Kings but one. There are not two Lord of Lords but one. There are not two creators but one. There are not two who sustains all things but one. And so on….
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Sin is sin. If you are parsing sins into some that are "less OK" than others, that presents an inaccurate view of sin.
That distinction was made in the OT. Not in the NT. Defining the New Covenant Christian according to the covenant of Law between God and Israel yields confusion.
You fault those whom you claim say "Sin is OK",
Surely you aren't saying that the second version of sin is OK, are you?
What is is there that you do not have power over as a Christian? That would be the "unwillful sin", so called. There is no such thing, you know. Unwillful sin. Sin that you don't have the power to deny. Doesn't exist. Not for the reborn.
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And there is also blatant error. The sacrifices were not able to remove sins. This is plainly stated in a couple of places. FB continues to blend together the First Covenant and the New Covenant, toward the ruin of the hearers.
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Interesting, in the 25 years since I received Him, I've never heard anyone in a congregation say such, but then all had the understanding that the blood of Christ was sufficient payment for the propitiation of all their sin.
Of course most of my acquaintances and friends in the church were actively involved in ministry and I certainly didn't talk to everyone except from a pulpit. It's unfortunate that so many people think that merely repeating a "sinners prayer" will give them entry into the kingdom regardless of their doubts and disbelief. I'd say that it's far worse to believe that you have a birthright to the kingdom because of the religion of your family or the performance of religious rites. I suppose it's just another sign of the times.
I think so. But not favorably. Denying the power thereof. You are neither cold nor hot. Things like that.
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The beauty in God calling Himself our Shepherd! This is His heart towards us!
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There does seem to be a lot of inaccurate stereotyping going on!
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