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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Bobby Jo, May 23, 2019.

  1. dorian37grey

    dorian37grey Member

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    obviously you don't know the book --cool: no need to show off your ignorance with naive comments :)
     
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    @dorian37grey
    Hello again old friend! It has been a long time between times. Give God the glory!
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Read the book. Now Scripture does not contradict Scripture, so can you explain how your "three-Caesars" fit it with Daniel 2, 7, 8, & 11, and History?


    Good luck on that,
    Bobby Jo
     
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    amadeus ; its good to see ya ; my friend :)
     
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    amadeus Well-Known Member

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    Give God all the glory!
     
  6. Helen

    Helen Well-Known Member

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    @Bobby Jo :D

    But I totally agree about my spelling...I am useless , and always have been.
    I do notice that you didn't do very well your self on< eschatological> ..with leaving the 'h' out and using an 'a' instead of an 'o' after the 't'.
    But hey, who is checking lol

    Yet you are wrong about me 'knowing anything' much about eschatology .
    We went to all the prophetic meetings in the 60's in England, and did the rounds to hear all the 'greats'. Until we realized that each one of them saw it differently . Many versions on Daniel and Revelation. :rolleyes:


    My 'side-post' to Patrick was because I felt that you were very harsh with him, he hasn't posted for some years ...this was his first appearance..

    It's not what you say, often that is fine...it is how you say it.

    Not that I expect that you 'give a fig', about what I or anyone else thinks. :)
     
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  7. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah? Well pray tell, who is the FIFTH "divided kingdom" of CLAY in Daniel 2?

    Divided between WHAT? -- Not the toes, because that would be redundant. It's FEET that are "divided". So who are those participants?


    Easy question!
    Bobby Jo


    ... and yes, I mistyped the second "eschatology", but I maintain that you along with most of those who post in the Prophecy Forum have no clue about (can't spell) "prophecy". And it's ok that we need to learn what we don't know, except virtually everyone not only posts their ignorance, but are content in doing so. And I would assert that where the commentators defied the angel's instructions (Dan. 12:4 & 9) the end time has arrived to UNSEAL and OPEN the Prophecies against their TRUE Historical and Pending Fulfillments. :)
     
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  8. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Notice Bobby Jo?

    People are happy to see Dorian.....Dorian, you see, is not a jerk.

    I know this is a new concept for you, but take your time.....you too, can experience this!
     
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  9. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you are as disoriented in assessing individuals as you are on subjects which you claim proficiency, -- "Dorian" is not helped by your "support". Now if you got the simple things correct, then I might be persuaded to believe your more complex perspectives. But alas, confusion appears to cut across all facets of your life.

    As for "Dorian", I never suggested that he was a "jerk". YOU made that association. I simply asked how his "three-Caesar" doctrine fit in the prophetic Chapters of Daniel.

    But now that you've make your "appearance" perhaps you can help explain Dorian's "three-Caesar" doctrine for him. After all, you've vouched that HE IS NOT A JERK!

    Bobby Jo
     
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    When we were in our 20's, 30's and even 40' we had the desire, energy and interest for those things...but 'pushing 80' it just gives me a headache.

    To many , have too many different opinions and interpretations.
    It may be for the wise to search out the matter...but I'm not wise, neither does anyone have any idea what to so about anything , even if the knew what what what and who was what.

    Humankind are all little numbered ants in the system.
    I believe above all those powers which be, and those that believe that they are in control...GOD is in control , and His Plan will conclude when He says -
    "Time, No Longer."
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    What a cop out. You said you KNOW ABOUT Bible Prophecy, but because some people are ignorant, you throw out GOD's Word because, -- what --, it's to difficult to understand?!?

    Do me a favor and NEVER again say that you KNOW ABOUT Bible Prophecy, because all you KNOW is that you DON'T KNOW.


    Is there a full moon?
    Bobby Jo
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    WHAT???? WHERE?

    Where on earth do you believe I said that???? faint1.gif

    Please quote me
    anywhere , where I have said I know about bible prophesy, and "thrown the word of God out!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

    Looking forward to hearing "what I said!!"

    Post and quote # numbers please....from anywhere on this Site, or any other site come to that.

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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    "ByGrace" said:
    Yet you are wrong about me 'knowing anything' much about eschatology .
    We went to all the prophetic meetings in the 60's in England, and did the rounds to hear all the 'greats'. Until we realized that each one of them saw it differently . Many versions on Daniel and Revelation.

    Bobby Jo said:

    You said you KNOW ABOUT Bible Prophecy

    You said you heard "all the greats", and thus have some exposure to the different views, but I may have misunderstood your GRASP of the topic. So my mistake!

    On the other hand, I have heard "all the greats" (and more) and have an accurate conclusion as to the intent of the Author and the fulfillment of History. But as you found out, it wasn't because of "all the greats", it was in spite of "all the greats".

    I can't imagine anything more simple that Bible Prophecy, both in hindsight and foresight. Who in their right mind doesn't look at the world and recognize that we're living in a Divided Kingdom as split between THREE Superpowers and a United Nations? Isn't that what Daniel prophesied? And regarding the timing, don't we have the Prophetic Psalms (Ref. J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms") for the chronology?


    But where GOD Clearly Delineated both Participants and Events, some post their imaginations as fact in CLEAR defiance of Scripture and History. -- The Blind leading the Blind.


    Bobby Jo
     
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    Even when I am interested still [and I'm only 75] I must often back away for a bit and try again after while or on another day so as to avoid those headaches myself. The problem with that is "This the day that the Lord hath made". Yesterday's gone so don't be too concerned it and as for tomorrow, we do perhaps know [or we wrong about this too] that it may never come.

    Give God the Glory!
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Yes and she got no answers from them because they all had different ideas. You need to actually read her post, not cherrypick words to condemn her.
     
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    YOU should have read her Post more closely. She got ANSWERS. She got all kinds of ANSWERS, -- reasonable, well articulated, Scripturally based, historically based, BEST LIES. And so too we have ALL been lied to by the "commentators", but a smart person should not only see through their BEST LIES, but be able to come to an accurate understanding of the TRUTH. That's what the Holy Spirit does. HE leads us into ALL TRUTHS.

    Now, if someone either can't or won't receive from the Holy Spirit, then they might be as some in this Forum. But by all appearances, it seemed that "ByGrace" was certainly a candidate for receiving from the Holy Spirit, as opposed to at least one other in this VERY Topic.

    So where I gave credit, apparently it was more than she was due, but I did give credit, -- which is more than I will advance to one other in this Topic.


    No soup for you,
    Bobby Jo
     
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    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    You truly are a waste of time.
     
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    Fortunately no one here is dependent upon you for "soup". Should you not be a little more willing to share with others any good things that God has given to you:

    "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." Phil 2:3
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Exactly correct. We don't need no stink'in BIBLE PROPHECY. If GOD wanted me to understand BIBLE PROPHECY HE'd tell me HISSELF. I don't accept ANYTHING from ANYONE that I don't already know. I don't need no Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, or Teachers. And I'll argue FALSE and IRRATIONAL points when necessary just to make my case.


    Or, GOD sent Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers to build up the church, 'cause they're gonna need it:

    Rev. 13:10 ... Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
    Rev. 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.


    Because we don't have what we don't receive. So please feel free to be surprised, -- SURPRISE:

    1 Thess. 5:3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief. 5 For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we are not of the night or of darkness.


    We all choose:

    Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge



    Bobby Jo
     
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    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Quoted from the Topic "Who Is More Dangerous, Islam or Catholicism?


    So although various deceivers have protested what Scripture and History CLEARLY defend:

    1. Gold, Babylonian
    2. Silver, Medo/Persian
    3. Bronze, Grecian
    4. Iron, Roman
    5. Clay, "Divided"

    40 And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron ...
    41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom ...
    45 ... the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold ...
    = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE

    They STILL DENY FIVE World Empires:

    This has NEVER been an honest difference iof perspective, -- this has always been attempt to deceive. And we should all know where deceivers come from, and where they'll end up.


    Such is the world, and such is life,
    Bobby Jo
     
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