Obedience from Genesis to Revelation

[LoveYeshua]

The Theology of Obedience from Genesis to Revelation​

Obedience to God is a central theme throughout Scripture, shaping the relationship between humanity and its Creator from Genesis to Revelation. It is not merely a set of rules but the foundation of trust, love, and divine purpose. The perfect example of obedience is found in Jesus Christ, whose submission to the Father's will fulfilled the plan of redemption. Using the New King James Version, we examine this doctrine to reveal its significance across the biblical narrative.


The story of obedience begins in Genesis with God’s first command to Adam and Eve: “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die” (Genesis 2:16-17). Obedience here is not a restriction but a means of life, a call to trust in God’s wisdom. However, Genesis 3:6 records the first act of disobedience: “So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food … she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.” This decision led to separation from God, resulting in death, suffering, and exile.

From the very beginning, Scripture establishes obedience as the path to blessing and disobedience as the cause of downfall, a principle reiterated in Deuteronomy 28. The passage declares blessings for obedience: “If you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God … all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you” (Deuteronomy 28:1-2), and warnings for disobedience: “If you do not obey … all these curses will come upon you” (Deuteronomy 28:15).

Obedience is not arbitrary; it is the natural alignment with the Creator’s design, as affirmed in Isaiah 45:12: “I have made the earth, and created man on it. I—My hands—stretched out the heavens, and all their host I have commanded.” To obey is to remain in harmony with the source of life, while rebellion leads to separation, as Isaiah 45:9 asks, “Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’”

Throughout history, humanity has struggled with obedience. Jonah’s attempt to flee from God’s command led to divine correction (Jonah 1:3, 2:10), illustrating the consequences of resisting God's will. This ongoing pattern reveals the need for a perfect example of obedience. Jesus Christ fulfills this role, demonstrating ultimate submission in the Garden of Gethsemane: “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). Luke 22:42-44 adds, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done … And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood.” Jesus, though fully human, chose obedience even in suffering, reversing the failure in Eden. While Adam and Eve took what was forbidden, Jesus offered Himself as the Lamb of God, fulfilling John 1:29: “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” His obedience was not forced but willing, as He declares in John 10:17-18: “I lay down My life … No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. … This command I have received from My Father.”

Jesus emphasized that obedience is an expression of love: “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). He lived this out, stating in John 15:10, “I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.” However, human efforts alone are not enough. God provides help through His Spirit, as promised in Ezekiel 36:27: “I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes.” This divine empowerment enables believers to live in obedience, as affirmed in 1 John 5:3: “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.” Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac in Genesis 22 exemplifies trust in God’s provision, as he declares, “God will provide for Himself the lamb” (Genesis 22:8). Obedience, especially in trials, is strengthened by faith, as James 1:22 urges: “Be doers of the word, and not hearers only.”

The culmination of obedience is seen in Revelation, where God's faithful people receive their reward. Revelation 22:14 proclaims, “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.” What was lost through disobedience in Genesis—the access to the tree of life (Genesis 3:22-24)—is restored through obedience in Christ. This obedience is not about legalism but about relationship and trust in God’s goodness, as Jeremiah 29:11 assures: “For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.” It is a testimony that brings glory to God, as Jesus teaches in Matthew 5:16: “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.”


From the first command in Genesis to the final promise in Revelation, obedience remains the path to restoration and eternal life. Jesus’ prayer in Gethsemane—“not as I will, but as You will”—demonstrates the cost and the power of true obedience. It is the way to remain in God’s presence, to live in His love, and to fulfill His purpose. The Bible’s message is clear: obedience is not just an act but a response to God's call, a path to blessing, and the key to eternal fellowship with Him, because we trust in God.

Blessings.

 

[MatthewG]

Would you say that as a person whom believe on Yeshua's life it was because of his obedience towards his Father, that when following after him, he is the one whom had done it all?

Where we in our fleshly lives typically fail?

One other note I would suggest is that praying for God to help you by the Spirit of Christ is a benefit if we so choose to yield to our fleshly nature of greed, lusting, however, our flesh will still fail but in that particular time wouldn't it be Christ Yeshua and his righteousness that comes forward and presents itself towards others.

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

I know sometimes I still hate people, so... That is a weakness I have, but the Spirit of Yeshua, helps me get over that.

I don't think I can do what Jesus did, especially due to this fleshly nature which I have.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Would you say that as a person whom believe on Yeshua's life it was because of his obedience towards his Father, that when following after him, he is the one whom had done it all?

Where we in our fleshly lives typically fail?

One other note I would suggest is that praying for God to help you by the Spirit of Christ is a benefit if we so choose to yield to our fleshly nature of greed, lusting, however, our flesh will still fail but in that particular time wouldn't it be Christ Yeshua and his righteousness that comes forward and presents itself towards others.

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

I know sometimes I still hate people, so... That is a weakness I have, but the Spirit of Yeshua, helps me get over that.

I don't think I can do what Jesus did, especially due to this fleshly nature which I have.

there is a sequence of events in belief, i will find a post i made a while ago and will reply with it..hopefully today ir tomorrow.

As for imitating Christ, Jesus had special things to do, like die on the cross etc....we cannot do this. We can try to be as good towards God and Others as he is, that simple, but to achieve this, one must know what he said and did and not many do follow his teachings or have forgotten. it is why my personal mission here is to bring back people to Christ and what he said. for a while anyways until I see I can no longer do anything else to help.

Blessings

 

[amigo de christo]

there is a sequence of events in belief, i will find a post i made a while ago and will reply with it..hopefully today ir tomorrow.

As for imitating Christ, Jesus had special things to do, like die on the cross etc....we cannot do this. We can try to be as good towards God and Others as he is, that simple, but to achieve this, one must know what he said and did and not many do follow his teachings or have forgotten. it is why my personal mission here is to bring back people to Christ and what he said. for a while anyways until I see I can no longer do anything else to help.

Blessings

We are to die , we are to pick up our own cross .
In fact he who has not died , been crucified , yeah that be the old man i speak about
THEY ARE DEAD while they live in sin .
So that we being dead to sin should LIVE unto righteouness .
Be encouraged my friend .

 

[LoveYeshua]

Would you say that as a person whom believe on Yeshua's life it was because of his obedience towards his Father, that when following after him, he is the one whom had done it all?

Where we in our fleshly lives typically fail?

One other note I would suggest is that praying for God to help you by the Spirit of Christ is a benefit if we so choose to yield to our fleshly nature of greed, lusting, however, our flesh will still fail but in that particular time wouldn't it be Christ Yeshua and his righteousness that comes forward and presents itself towards others.

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

I know sometimes I still hate people, so... That is a weakness I have, but the Spirit of Yeshua, helps me get over that.

I don't think I can do what Jesus did, especially due to this fleshly nature which I have.

Below is the post I was refereeing to yesterday; " the path to salvation" I hope it answers some questions but i will reply to one here that you asked;

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

God made the path to salvation known to us but it is our choice to listen and to follow Christ and do as he asked us to do, essentially Christ said "if you love me, keep my commandments"

The Path to Salvation​

Salvation is not a single moment of belief but a journey that begins with God's call and continues with faith, obedience, and endurance until the end. Jesus and His disciples taught that true followers of God would remain faithful throughout their lives. This journey unfolds step by step, each guided by Scripture.

God's call is the beginning of salvation. No one comes to Him by their own effort; it is He who draws people to Himself. Jesus declared, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44). This invitation is open to all, as Revelation confirms: “The Spirit and the bride say, ‘Come!’ And let him who hears say, ‘Come!’ And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely” (Revelation 22:17). Yet, the call must be heard and accepted.

Hearing God’s Word is essential. Jesus said, “He who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life” (John 5:24). But hearing alone is not enough. Revelation urges, “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” (Revelation 2:7). True hearing leads to action.

The next step is repentance and faith. Jesus warned, “Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3). Repentance means turning away from sin and surrendering to God. In Revelation, Jesus calls His people to repent: “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent” (Revelation 3:19). Faith in Christ follows, for “He who believes in Me has everlasting life” (John 6:47).

Those who believe are baptized, marking their new life in Christ. Jesus commanded, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16). Baptism symbolizes being cleansed and made new, as Revelation describes: “These are the ones who washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Revelation 7:14). This rebirth through water and Spirit is necessary to enter God’s kingdom (John 3:5).

Faith must be followed by obedience. Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). Revelation confirms that true believers are those “who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” (Revelation 14:12). Discipleship requires daily commitment: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me” (Luke 9:23).

Yet, trials will come, and only those who endure will be saved. Jesus declared, “He who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). Revelation encourages perseverance: “Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life” (Revelation 2:10). Christ promises that those who overcome will reign with Him: “To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne” (Revelation 3:21).

For those who remain faithful, eternal life awaits. Jesus assured, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish” (John 10:28). Revelation describes the final reward: “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life” (Revelation 22:14). The faithful will inherit God’s kingdom, as He promises, “He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son” (Revelation 21:7).

Salvation is not merely a decision but a lifelong walk with God. It begins with His call, continues with repentance, faith, baptism, obedience, and perseverance, and is completed in eternal life. Jesus' final words echo through time: “Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown” (Revelation 3:11). Those who endure will see His face and dwell with Him forever.

Blessings.

 

[MatthewG]

Below is the post I was refereeing to yesterday; " the path to salvation" I hope it answers some questions but i will reply to one here that you asked;

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

God made the path to salvation known to us but it is our choice to listen and to follow Christ and do as he asked us to do, essentially Christ said "if you love me, keep my commandments"

The Path to Salvation​

Salvation is not a single moment of belief but a journey that begins with God's call and continues with faith, obedience, and endurance until the end. Jesus and His disciples taught that true followers of God would remain faithful throughout their lives. This journey unfolds step by step, each guided by Scripture.

God's call is the beginning of salvation. No one comes to Him by their own effort; it is He who draws people to Himself. Jesus declared, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44). This invitation is open to all, as Revelation confirms: “The Spirit and the bride say, ‘Come!’ And let him who hears say, ‘Come!’ And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely” (Revelation 22:17). Yet, the call must be heard and accepted.

Hearing God’s Word is essential. Jesus said, “He who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life” (John 5:24). But hearing alone is not enough. Revelation urges, “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” (Revelation 2:7). True hearing leads to action.

The next step is repentance and faith. Jesus warned, “Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3). Repentance means turning away from sin and surrendering to God. In Revelation, Jesus calls His people to repent: “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent” (Revelation 3:19). Faith in Christ follows, for “He who believes in Me has everlasting life” (John 6:47).

Those who believe are baptized, marking their new life in Christ. Jesus commanded, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16). Baptism symbolizes being cleansed and made new, as Revelation describes: “These are the ones who washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Revelation 7:14). This rebirth through water and Spirit is necessary to enter God’s kingdom (John 3:5).

Faith must be followed by obedience. Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). Revelation confirms that true believers are those “who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” (Revelation 14:12). Discipleship requires daily commitment: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me” (Luke 9:23).

Yet, trials will come, and only those who endure will be saved. Jesus declared, “He who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). Revelation encourages perseverance: “Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life” (Revelation 2:10). Christ promises that those who overcome will reign with Him: “To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne” (Revelation 3:21).

For those who remain faithful, eternal life awaits. Jesus assured, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish” (John 10:28). Revelation describes the final reward: “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life” (Revelation 22:14). The faithful will inherit God’s kingdom, as He promises, “He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son” (Revelation 21:7).

Salvation is not merely a decision but a lifelong walk with God. It begins with His call, continues with repentance, faith, baptism, obedience, and perseverance, and is completed in eternal life. Jesus' final words echo through time: “Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown” (Revelation 3:11). Those who endure will see His face and dwell with Him forever.

Blessings.

Those could all be taken in so many ways.

 

[Behold]

From the first command in Genesis to the final promise in Revelation, obedience remains the path to restoration and eternal life.

What you posted is not correct.... is not true.

See, the way to heaven, is not your Obedience...... The Way to Heaven is Jesus, who told YOU.....>"i am THE WAY, to the Father, and no person (YOU) comes to the Father by by ME".

So, when you teach that your silly obedience gets you into Heaven, you have denied The Cross of Christ, as the only WAY there.
This means you are literally denying JESUS as THE Savior.

This means that your "gospel of obedience" is false, and is cursed, and you are a Galatians 1:8.

You should read that and discover yourself. @LoveYeshua as God already has.....

 

[LoveYeshua]

What you posted is not correct.... is not true.

See, the way to heaven, is not your Obedience...... The Way to Heaven is Jesus, who told YOU.....>"i am THE WAY, to the Father, and no person (YOU) comes to the Father by by ME".

So, when you teach that your silly obedience gets you into Heaven, you have denied The Cross of Christ, as the only WAY there.
This means you are literally denying JESUS as THE Savior.

This means that your "gospel of obedience" is false, and is cursed, and you are a Galatians 1:8.

You should read that and discover yourself. @LoveYeshua as God already has.....

The Gospel of Jesus was all about repentance and the Kingdom Of Heaven;

"From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 4:17)

This is what he Jesus our Lord preached and what we have to do is simply this;

"If you Love Me keep my commandments" (John 14;15)

I rest my case

 

[Behold]

The Gospel of Jesus

There is no "gospel of Jesus".

Also, there is "Paul's Gospel", that is "The Gospel of the Grace of God".
So, that is THE Gospel.....and that is why Paul told you that any other gospel and the person who teaches it is "cursed".

So, dont rest your case yet, as you are a Galatians 1:8.

 

[LoveYeshua]

There is no "gospel of Jesus".

Also, there is "Paul's Gospel", that is "The Gospel of the Grace of God".
So, that is THE Gospel.....and that is why Paul told you that any other gospel and the person who teaches it is "cursed".

So, dont rest your case yet, as you are a Galatians 1:8.

sorry to say you have it in reverse.
and to say I am accursed because I preach the words of Jesus is absurd.

 

[Behold]

sorry to say you have it in reverse.

Jesus gave The Gospel to Paul.
You're just not familar with any of this.......you just dont know anything about it.

Why do you think Paul would tell you that any other Gospel but HIS< is "cursed"?......Galatians 1:8

See, you dont know why, and you need to find out.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Jesus gave The Gospel to Paul.
You're just not familar with any of this.......you just dont know anything about it.

Why do you think Paul would tell you that any other Gospel but HIS< is "cursed"?......Galatians 1:8

See, you dont know why, and you need to find out.

I know all you mentioned, so in essence are you saying that all Christ said is invalid and superseded by Paul's own Gospel??.

I dont ask this question lightly BUT be careful that you do not answer wrongfully by diminishing the words of Jesus Christ My Lord, as In doing this, you will might heap burning coals on your head for judgement day!

 

[Davy]

Below is the post I was refereeing to yesterday; " the path to salvation" I hope it answers some questions but i will reply to one here that you asked;

To be kind.
To be peaceable.
To be not brawlers.

All of those things are not of us, but of Him?

God made the path to salvation known to us but it is our choice to listen and to follow Christ and do as he asked us to do, essentially Christ said "if you love me, keep my commandments"

....​

Yes, those in Christ are to keep HIS commandments, not the commandments of men. And attend just about any Christian meeting place that calls itself a Church, and you will find some commandments of men peppered in with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. Those are about the idea of denominations, which actually means 'divisions' of the body of Christ. It's not supposed to happen.

And one of the commandments of men are by those who take certain Bible Scriptures by Lord Jesus, and by Apostle Paul, in such an absolute literal sense that they reject any other Bible Scripture that gives more details about it. Living peacefully, and being kind, is one of those commandments that often gets twisted outside of God's Word...

1. Being Kind

Does The New Testament mean by that, that we believers are to just lay down all of what we believe on the ground in favor of being kind to the atheist and infidel non-believer, murderer, Christ's enemies? I mean, Jesus did say to turn the other cheek if someone slaps you on the face, for doing what? (Luke 6:29) For preaching The Gospel, and those who slapped you didn't like it, that was the situation Jesus was saying offer them the other cheek also.

But the Christian West has developed denominations by men who are conscientious objectors to all violence used against others, even in situations of war or murderous crimes against themselves! Is that not iniquity where as a believer on Christ one refuses to even protect their own family against thieves and murderers?

We can find many New Testament Scriptures that tell us to be kind, seek peace, love, meekness, charity, etc. (1 Peter 3:7-17; James 3:17; 2 Tim.2:22-26; 1 Tim.6:11; 1 Thess.5:14-15; Eph.4:2-3; Gal.5:22-25; Rom.14:19; Matt.5:9)

But there are also events written in The New Testament about righteous indignation against evil and doing something about it, and also bearing arms in order to protect ourselves and our loved ones, and Christian society in general...

John 2:13-16
13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
15 And when He had made a scourge of small cords, He drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
16 And said unto them that sold doves, "Take these things hence; make not My Father's house an house of merchandise."
KJV

Do you know what a "scourge of small cords" is? It is rush-ropes made into a whip! Lord Jesus didn't just turn over their tables in anger, He also used a whip to drive those merchants out of the temple. Did He do evil by that act? Was He showing love by that act? No to the evil, and yes to the love; it is called TOUGH LOVE. It is when evil tries to overcome peace and righteousness. Tough love sometimes requires a whip (in Lord Jesus' case there), and sometimes it requires a billy-club (like some police carry), and sometime it requires a rifle (like the military carries).

Lord Jesus COMMANDED that His disciples ARM themselves:

This is something many brethren are not aware of, or have never read:

Luke 22:35-36
35 And He said unto them, "When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing?" And they said, "Nothing."
36 Then said He unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
KJV

What? Lord Jesus telling His disciples that didn't have one, to GO BUY A SWORD? Yep! That is one of the main New Testament Scriptures that confirms that the right to arm oneself and defend oneself is a GOD-GIVEN RIGHT. This is why in the U.S. Constitution 2nd Amendment, the founders provide the clause that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed (i.e., taken away).

HOW then, does that put in perspective all those New Testament verses I quoted above that we in Christ are to be kind, peaceful, loving, have charity, etc.? Well, we are to be and do those things... UNTIL we cannot because of Christ's enemies, and in general the things of this world that require self-defense (like animals in the wild that attack, etc.).

2. To Be Peaceable:

Here's a New Testament verse by Apostle Paul many forget to read that also shows what I'm saying...

Rom 12:18
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
KJV

Is it possible to "live peaceably with all men"? What about the murderer coming at you and your family with a knife intending on robbing and killing you, or one of your loved ones? Is it possible to make peace with those bent on harming you and your family? No, it is not always possible! Lord Jesus of course knows this! That's why He commanded His disciples to go buy a sword that didn't have one before going out on the open road to preach The Gospel. He gave us the right... to defend and protect ourselves and our loved ones, and our Christian community, and our nation!

So while we in Christ are to TRY... to live peacefully with all men, and love each other, that sometimes means using tough love and discipline and rebuke when needed, which Lord Jesus did, ...

... as also did Apostle Paul as overseer of the Churches:

Titus 2:15
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
KJV

Titus 1:13
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
KJV

2 Tim 4:2
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
KJV

1 Tim 5:20
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
KJV

 

[LoveYeshua]

Yes, those in Christ are to keep HIS commandments, not the commandments of men. And attend just about any Christian meeting place that calls itself a Church, and you will find some commandments of men peppered in with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. Those are about the idea of denominations, which actually means 'divisions' of the body of Christ. It's not supposed to happen.

And one of the commandments of men are by those who take certain Bible Scriptures by Lord Jesus, and by Apostle Paul, in such an absolute literal sense that they reject any other Bible Scripture that gives more details about it. Living peacefully, and being kind, is one of those commandments that often gets twisted outside of God's Word...

1. Being Kind

Does The New Testament mean by that, that we believers are to just lay down all of what we believe on the ground in favor of being kind to the atheist and infidel non-believer, murderer, Christ's enemies? I mean, Jesus did say to turn the other cheek if someone slaps you on the face, for doing what? (Luke 6:29) For preaching The Gospel, and those who slapped you didn't like it, that was the situation Jesus was saying offer them the other cheek also.

But the Christian West has developed denominations by men who are conscientious objectors to all violence used against others, even in situations of war or murderous crimes against themselves! Is that not iniquity where as a believer on Christ one refuses to even protect their own family against thieves and murderers?

We can find many New Testament Scriptures that tell us to be kind, seek peace, love, meekness, charity, etc. (1 Peter 3:7-17; James 3:17; 2 Tim.2:22-26; 1 Tim.6:11; 1 Thess.5:14-15; Eph.4:2-3; Gal.5:22-25; Rom.14:19; Matt.5:9)

But there are also events written in The New Testament about righteous indignation against evil and doing something about it, and also bearing arms in order to protect ourselves and our loved ones, and Christian society in general...

John 2:13-16
13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
15 And when He had made a scourge of small cords, He drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
16 And said unto them that sold doves, "Take these things hence; make not My Father's house an house of merchandise."
KJV

Do you know what a "scourge of small cords" is? It is rush-ropes made into a whip! Lord Jesus didn't just turn over their tables in anger, He also used a whip to drive those merchants out of the temple. Did He do evil by that act? Was He showing love by that act? No to the evil, and yes to the love; it is called TOUGH LOVE. It is when evil tries to overcome peace and righteousness. Tough love sometimes requires a whip (in Lord Jesus' case there), and sometimes it requires a billy-club (like some police carry), and sometime it requires a rifle (like the military carries).

Lord Jesus COMMANDED that His disciples ARM themselves:

This is something many brethren are not aware of, or have never read:

Luke 22:35-36
35 And He said unto them, "When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing?" And they said, "Nothing."
36 Then said He unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
KJV

What? Lord Jesus telling His disciples that didn't have one, to GO BUY A SWORD? Yep! That is one of the main New Testament Scriptures that confirms that the right to arm oneself and defend oneself is a GOD-GIVEN RIGHT. This is why in the U.S. Constitution 2nd Amendment, the founders provide the clause that the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed (i.e., taken away).

HOW then, does that put in perspective all those New Testament verses I quoted above that we in Christ are to be kind, peaceful, loving, have charity, etc.? Well, we are to be and do those things... UNTIL we cannot because of Christ's enemies, and in general the things of this world that require self-defense (like animals in the wild that attack, etc.).

2. To Be Peaceable:

Here's a New Testament verse by Apostle Paul many forget to read that also shows what I'm saying...

Rom 12:18
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
KJV

Is it possible to "live peaceably with all men"? What about the murderer coming at you and your family with a knife intending on robbing and killing you, or one of your loved ones? Is it possible to make peace with those bent on harming you and your family? No, it is not always possible! Lord Jesus of course knows this! That's why He commanded His disciples to go buy a sword that didn't have one before going out on the open road to preach The Gospel. He gave us the right... to defend and protect ourselves and our loved ones, and our Christian community, and our nation!

So while we in Christ are to TRY... to live peacefully with all men, and love each other, that sometimes means using tough love and discipline and rebuke when needed, which Lord Jesus did, ...

... as also did Apostle Paul as overseer of the Churches:

Titus 2:15
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
KJV

Titus 1:13
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
KJV

2 Tim 4:2
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
KJV

1 Tim 5:20
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
KJV

You’re right that we are to keep the commandments of Christ, not the traditions or doctrines of men (Mark 7:6-9). But to follow Him, we must take His words seriously, not twist them to justify violence or self-defense in ways He never taught.

When Jesus said, “Turn the other cheek” (Luke 6:29), He meant exactly what He said. He also told us to “love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you” (Matthew 5:44). Jesus never once taught His disciples to respond to evil with violence, even when He was arrested unjustly. He said, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).

The moment in Luke 22:36 about buying a sword was not a command for self-defense but a fulfillment of prophecy. Just after, Jesus said, “It is enough,” when they showed Him two swords (Luke 22:38), showing He wasn’t calling them to arms but fulfilling “And He was numbered with the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12, Luke 22:37). He even rebuked Peter for using that sword (John 18:10-11). The sword was not for fighting but for the appearance of rebellion so prophecy would be fulfilled.
As for Jesus cleansing the temple, it was not violence against people. He drove out animals and overturned tables, but there’s no verse that says He harmed anyone. That act was about purifying God’s house from corruption, not about self-defense or war. Jesus taught peacemaking, not warfare: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God” (Matthew 5:9). And He said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight… but now My kingdom is not from here” (John 18:36).
The apostles followed this path too. Peter wrote: “When He was reviled, He did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten” (1 Peter 2:23). He told believers to suffer wrongfully if necessary and follow in Jesus’ steps (1 Peter 2:21).
The true power of God's people is not in weapons but in faith, love, and truth. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb and by our testimony, “and they did not love their lives to the death” (Revelation 12:11).

Yes, we are called to rebuke and correct—but always in love, and according to Jesus’ ways, not the methods of men.

We should all hold fast to what Jesus taught, for He alone has “all authority in heaven and on earth” (Matthew 28:18), and He never authorized us to take up arms for the gospel.

 

[Davy]

You’re right that we are to keep the commandments of Christ, not the traditions or doctrines of men (Mark 7:6-9). But to follow Him, we must take His words seriously, not twist them to justify violence or self-defense in ways He never taught.

When Jesus said, “Turn the other cheek” (Luke 6:29), He meant exactly what He said. He also told us to “love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you” (Matthew 5:44). Jesus never once taught His disciples to respond to evil with violence, even when He was arrested unjustly. He said, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).

The moment in Luke 22:36 about buying a sword was not a command for self-defense but a fulfillment of prophecy. Just after, Jesus said, “It is enough,” when they showed Him two swords (Luke 22:38), showing He wasn’t calling them to arms but fulfilling “And He was numbered with the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12, Luke 22:37). He even rebuked Peter for using that sword (John 18:10-11). The sword was not for fighting but for the appearance of rebellion so prophecy would be fulfilled.

Already you have shown that you are against... what Jesus showed by COMMANDING His disciples to go buy a sword per that Luke 22 Scripture, which reveals that He definitely DOES give us the right of self-defense.

The turn the other cheek Message is for when preaching The Gospel and someone hates you for it, not trying to MURDER YOU or YOUR FAMILY for it. If you don't know the difference I feel sorry for you!

And by YOUR VAIN ATTEMPT TO TWIST THAT LUKE 22 Scripture with some sort of dreamed up JEWISH doctrine of men about it only being for the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecy, just proves once again YOUR obvious hatred of the idea of self-defense, and most likely the idea of all military defense, making you a LEFTIST-LIBERAL that would easily side with Christ's enemies of Communist-Socialism that desire to destroy the Christian Church.

So either you are on the side of God's people, or you on the side of His enemies. And one of the long-range disinformation strategies against the Christian West by the Communists is to PREACH disarmament and pacification IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES! Moscow has even been holding religious SUMMITS with Christian pastors, preaching such GARBAGE as pacification and disarmament! And that's all you are doing with YOUR TWISTED MESSAGE AWAY FROM SCRIPTURE, is the bidding of those Communist deceivers.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Already you have shown that you are against... what Jesus showed by COMMANDING His disciples to go buy a sword per that Luke 22 Scripture, which reveals that He definitely DOES give us the right of self-defense.

The turn the other cheek Message is for when preaching The Gospel and someone hates you for it, not trying to MURDER YOU or YOUR FAMILY for it. If you don't know the difference I feel sorry for you!

And by YOUR VAIN ATTEMPT TO TWIST THAT LUKE 22 Scripture with some sort of dreamed up JEWISH doctrine of men about it only being for the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecy, just proves once again YOUR obvious hatred of the idea of self-defense, and most likely the idea of all military defense, making you a LEFTIST-LIBERAL that would easily side with Christ's enemies of Communist-Socialism that desire to destroy the Christian Church.

So either you are on the side of God's people, or you on the side of His enemies. And one of the long-range disinformation strategies against the Christian West by the Communists is to PREACH disarmament and pacification IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES! Moscow has even been holding religious SUMMITS with Christian pastors, preaching such GARBAGE as pacification and disarmament! And that's all you are doing with YOUR TWISTED MESSAGE AWAY FROM SCRIPTURE, is the bidding of those Communist deceivers.

Stop with the sword already you have it all wrong!


Luk 22:35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out without purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered.

Luk 22:36 “Now, however,” He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one.

Luk 22:37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment.”

Luk 22:38 So they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” “That is enough,” He answered.

do you get it now???

it is you who twist scripture and threaten, unacceptable! continue to follow Paul but he cannot save you only Jesus can and THAT is the truth!

Know that Jesus was a JEW! you have forgotten or twisted everything he said, very disappointing.

 

[Davy]

Stop with the sword already you have it all wrong! it is you who twist scripture and threaten, unacceptable! continue to follow Paul but he cannot save you only Jesus can and THAT is the truth!

Know that Jesus was a JEW! you have forgotten everything he said, very disappointing.

Nope, I have NOT twisted the Luke 22 Scripture, so how many times are you going to FALSELY CLAIM that I did, telling that LIE with thinking IF you say it enough, then people might believe you?

You even go so far with your FALSE JEW attitude that you claim I have forgotten everything Jesus said?!@*!? I am so... thankful that finally YOUR TRUE CHARACTER has come out here on this Forum! You started out making a lot sense, even though you still have me doubts as to your seriousness at points. And NOW you have only confirm that you are here to DECEIVE the brethren with FALSE JEW DOCTRINE.

Do you know who the FALSE JEWS even are??

Rev 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
KJV

 

[GodsGrace]

Those could all be taken in so many ways.

IF the scriptures could be taken in "so many ways" as you have stated....
do you realize what that means?

It means that we, as Christians, cannot know the truth.

Do you believe the NT contains The Truth?

If so,,,what do you think that truth is?

Please post scripture.

 

[MatthewG]

IF the scriptures could be taken in "so many ways" as you have stated....
do you realize what that means?

It means that we, as Christians, cannot know the truth.

Do you believe the NT contains The Truth?

If so,,,what do you think that truth is?

Please post scripture.

Just read the Bible and may the spirit guide.

???

 

[GodsGrace]

Just read the Bible and may the spirit guide.

???

May the Holy Spirit guide YOU MatthewG.