“Christian Deconversion”? – Part 2
In my prior post I wrote, “In other words, did these people [professing Christian “deconverters”] ever truly believe that it is only “by grace through faith and not of works” that a person can be saved with such admissions? The following video is just one, in the avalanche of testimonial videos, which illustrates this recurring theme :
“Leaving Evangelical Christianity – An Intro”
Starting @6:38 mins. into her videos she says, “I just thought about that because this person was a fine person, they were living their life and they just didn’t seem to need the Christian teaching”. So that kept happening …”they don’t need this Christian stuff, their lives are fine without it. They are playing their part in society, they’re doing well, they’re benefiting by being good people in society.” …
Who am I to tell people in Australia, in a completely different culture than me, who are doing fine following their own versions of life? They are not hurting anybody and they are doing just fine. Who am I to infiltrate their life and say, “hey you need this Jesus stuff, and if you don’t accept it, unfortunately you are going to go to hell?”
So, in a nutshell, she’s declaring that “good people don’t need the salvation that Jesus offers.”
So I ask you, does it appear to you like this woman [“Dee”], or the multitudes of people that share similar testimonies, ever believed that they were sinners in danger of the wrath of God, and in desperate need of His forgiveness? Did they ever actually understand or receive as truth the clear declaration of
Ephesians 2:8-9 that clearly states … not of works [not because of any of our “superlative feats of morality” that we perform]?
To further illustrate, in another one of her videos entitled, “Why Christians argue about who ‘Real’ Christians are”, she says [similar to the masses of “deconverters”]…
“The whole saying, a “True Scotsman” applies to Christianity when people like to point at people who used to be Christians and say, ‘they were never true Christians’, or ‘they just didn’t understand’ … it has to do with their theological standpoints though. People who can’t admit that their theology could be wrong, it’s not complicated, it’s just a lot to unpack. If somebody says that to you and they are a fundamentalist type of Christian, it’s because they literally cannot accept your past as being reality, because if they do, that means they will have to admit their theology is wrong. ****They have to go with the Bible is true over what may happen in reality. If they conflict, they automatically support what the bible says, even if it doesn’t match reality”****
****Did you catch that?****… in the end, it’s reality a question of [human] subjective truth [what I feel, what I experience] or [scriptural] objective truth [what God’s Word declares as reality], that is to say, which one ‘trumps’ or ‘takes precedence over’ the other [which does not imply the total elimination of the another] … these “deconverters” have chosen the wrong answer … subjective truth.****
It appears to me that closely related to this issue is the “deconverters” rejection of Biblical reliability. They claim that there really isn’t any solid evidence for the scriptures being inspired by God. Here’s a breathtaking video that I would highly recommend to those scoffers who make that assertion :
“Evidence of God in Mathematics -Truth Project 37, Full Documentary of Proofs of Bible Reliability”
Hell will be filled to the brim with “good men”… “moral” men … as well as “religious” men who all have this one thing in common … they have never been born again. Those who have been born again do not boast in their so-called “moral excellence” as the basis or ground for their right-standing [justification] before God; they boast in the cross of Christ alone [
Galatians 6:14]. What a man might see in another man as “good”, God sees as one that is “dead” …. dead in trespasses and sins [
Ephesians 2:1].
To miss this great truth, is in essence, to miss the central message of the Gospel. So, how does Christianity differ from all other religions? If I had to summarize it in one word, it would be “Grace”. Other religions require people to try really, really hard to be worthy enough to earn acceptance before their deities. Only in Christianity does God himself come to us to make us worthy, not as a reward for our hard work and striving to obey His rules, but as a free gift of grace for those who would trust in Christ’s atoning work rather than their own.
So many stumble right here by choosing to believe that the salvation that God offers[ by grace through faith and not of works] is “too easy” or “too good to be true” [but in truth, they have rejected God’s only appointed road to Heaven, it’s the very heart of the Gospel message]. Others, who claim to have entered through that narrow gate, are yet striving to be accepted by God through their obedience to God’s rules… does that sound like a person who believes that they have been redeemed by Christ’s blood? … “oh yeah”, they say, “I’ve been redeemed by Christ’s blood for now, but I’ve got a little more work to do if I plan on making Heaven my home someday … but I’m not working for my salvation.”
How many people out there do you suppose trust in their good deeds outweighing their bad deeds when those accumulated works are placed on their imaginary, metaphoric, “Great Scale in Heaven” on Judgment day for their admittance into Heaven? Personally, I believe it’s very likely that the majority of mankind has bought into this lie fabricated from the demonic hordes.
Here’s another shocking and frightening aspect to the scenario … there are many out there who consider themselves genuine, born-again, blood-bought children of God, that aren’t in actuality that far apart from that mind-set … the parallel is undeniable.
“This is how the enemy works :
A BELIEVING person goes to God, to the Cross, on the day they
are saved, and they are so thankful that GOD saved them. They
know that day, they are saved and who did it, and they know
they are going to HEAVEN, because of God and Christ and The Cross.
2 Yrs later, they are on a forum teaching …”Here is how you
lose salvation”…..>”here are the commandments you need to keep,
and the works you need to do, to STAY SAVED”…
Yet, the day they were saved, they KNEW why they were going to heaven, as they had the truth then.., and now….= over time they’ve been conned out of it by “theology” deceivers.”
Galatians 1:9-10, “As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”
Galatians 6:14, “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.”
