There are many graces. What grace are you referring to?Are you trying to say that a person can be made alive apart from grace?Tong2020 said: ↑
And round and round it goes.
Yes by faith we have access (to grace).
How do you suppose the dead get to have faith if not made alive first? That is the question you should be addressing.
The quickening or making alive of the fallen man who is in a state of death, is grace.
Tong
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