OSAS teachers and Acts 2:38 skippers created "Gay" churches.
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EVERYONE who has confessed their sins and believed upon the BLOOD ATONEMENT of CHRIST is therefore a child of HIS...
What we do with our lives is between us and HIM... This is what really bothers and offends the legalists.... because they FEEL
they HAVE to be good... and do good.... That frame of mind breeds hypocrisy... shame and obedience by FORCE... which is no where NEAR the condition of heart that GOD REQUIRES of us.
God is not finished with us until our lives are over... HE promises to finish within us what HE has begun.... WE are called to REST in this assurance.... Our service to God then becomes a LOVE OFFERING rather than a SACRIFICE of behaviour. The two are very different.
You are stating EXTREME cases of behaviour.... The majority of SAVED people KNOW what is right and wrong... I doubt very much that an active molester is searching God out... I highly doubt an abortion doctor is a believer... so you are stirring it all in ONE pot... which is not accurate.
I have already stated that this church of which you speak is in SEVERE biblical ERROR... therefore should be AVOIDED.
God exercises SCANDALOUS and OUTRAGEOUS GRACE.... It's mind boggling... when I think that HE has saved a wretch like me.
Let me get this straight.
An abortion doctor can actively abort a baby as a saved abortion doctor and never have a negative issue with God about being saved?
Can anyone tell anyone they are saved or not saved aside from obeying Acts 2:38?
Former wretch or active wretch?
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Or...
11 And such ARE some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
My advice if you are being a wretch is stop goofing off and walk in the Spirit.
Is there a difference??? What makes you UNWRETCHED??? Your own GOOD WORKS??? That is the problem with much of Christianity...
It is teaching a false gospel of KEEPING ONESELF SAVED by WORKS... which is an absolute slap in the face to CHRIST...
It is ONLY because of Christ's shed blood that PAID for the penalty of ALL sin... once and for all... NO more animal sacrifices necessary... Done deal... paid in full... WHO are you to consider yourself BETTER than that doctor.... or that prostitute or that homosexual???
It really is an issue of how one sees themselves... and what they believe about God... Sadly... many are like you @Truther and consider their behaviour as part of the equation.... This causes a lot of problems... as you can see...
Sin is BAD... all of it... I will never state that it is profitable to sin... EVER.... I will never state that the sins in the bible are ACCEPTABLE today.... just because we are in the 21st century and times have changed.... I will NEVER ever celebrate or condone sin of ANY kind....
With that said... I take scripture seriously that tells me I am not to judge... in the context that so many Christians are doing today.
Of course the church is meant to be a body that exhorts... encourages... corrects... but that kind of RAISING up doesn't seem to exist anymore...
God knows the heart of EACH and EVERY child that belongs to HIM... and HE is more than capable of DEALING with their sin.
I am on my way out... so I gotta go... Nice chatting with you... Have a good day.
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Yes, inanutshell, Acts 2:38 IS the HOW to establish a relationship with Jesus.
However there IS a whole lot of things that occurs beforehand to lead a person up to making that election.
Acts 2:
[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Must walk in the Spirit?
That I would disagree with.
They have the Spirit of God within them.
Their own spirit is "reborn" from natural to spiritual.
They have the "tools", Gods Spirit, their spirit "reborn" and Gods Power within them....but they can still act according to unsavory thoughts in their mind.
Simply put... WHEN they walk in the Spirit, it pleases God, and God shall reward them.
WHEN they act "unsavory", those works shall be burned.
Repentance is once and forever, included in the meaning of "conversion".
God Bless,
Taken
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pRECIOUS fRIEND: slavation WITHOUT acst 2:38? YES, get OUT from UNDER THE LAW, And:
Get UNDER God's PURE GRACE (Romans - Philemon KJB!)!:
God's Simple Will
Amen?
Yes...however not to overlook the preparation of learning there IS a door, and HOW TO be prepared to ENTER through the Door.
The qualification to enter the door is repentance, then baptism for the remission of sins per Acts 2:38.Yes...however not to overlook the preparation of learning there IS a door, and HOW TO be prepared to ENTER through the Door.
Eternally Grateful
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he is stuck on his interpretation of acts 2: 32. Imagine if an apostle kept going to one verse. Or jesus kept going to just one verse. they would be laughed off the scene..Yes...however not to overlook the preparation of learning there IS a door, and HOW TO be prepared to ENTER through the Door.
Eternally Grateful
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The door to enter jesus is found in John 3, John 4, John 5 John 6. And so many other areas.
It is found in acts 2 also. Just not the way truther thinks
It is found in acts 2 also. Just not the way truther thinks
The teaching is in the Knowledge (Word of God). A commitment to God IS Forever. The "fine print" (so to speak is paramount). Those are the things one learns ABOUT, long before they are prepared to MAKE a "commitment".
Then...once an individual is SURE they are prepared to Commit...What you call "qualification", Scripturally is specifically A part of Gods Works, to Justify a man.
Glory to God,
Taken
Personally, I promote;
Gods "Order and Way", regarding who, what, when, where, how and why.
It is an individuals job to figure out In Gods "Order and Way"....what, when, where, how and why...any man personally fits into Gods "Order and Way"... and accept or reject exactly what He Offers to a man individually ...and any man who accepts His Offering according to His Order and Way....to know the WHOLE of what that means...
Or not.
I was not Offered Moses position, (lawmaker) Arrons position, (Priest) Davids position (king) Mary's position, (conceived with the Lord)...and particular others.
I was Offered, forgiveness, forever life with the Lord God Almighty....and the express "Order and Way" of how to Accept the Lord Gods Works within me, to acccomplish that Offering being receive unto me personally.
Agree, everything does not hang on the balance of ONE verse. Gods Word is FIRST "in ALL things"...even us having Knowledge and knowing His Word IS FIRST and preparation, to commit to His Word.
Glory to God,
Taken
Romans 6:3-7 KJV
3) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5) For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Much love!
To qualify for water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins requires repentance first. Faith and repentance go hand-in-hand.
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