OT. Prophecy saying that We Believers will Rule WIth Jesus on Earth For All Eternity!! Daniel 7:27-2

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OT. Prophecy saying that We Believers will Rule WIth Jesus on Earth For All Eternity!!
Daniel 7:27-28
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’
 

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It does not say we will rule for eternity. It says his kingdom is eternal.

Daniel 7:27-28 New International Version (NIV)
27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’

28 “This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself.”
 

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Daniel 7:27-28
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’ ===========Jesus is at the door today ready to return with we raptured believers as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and defeat all evil and rule with a rod of iron. PTL.
 

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Daniel 7:27-28
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’ ===========Jesus is at the door today ready to return with we raptured believers as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and defeat all evil and rule with a rod of iron. PTL.

You rewrote it. That means you paid attention to what I said.

This is clearer in meaning.


Daniel 7:27-28 New International Version (NIV)
27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’

28 “This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself.”

His kingdom is eternal, the earthly ones are not. In the MK he will rule all the Kingdoms from Jerusalem and his saints will be governors etc under him.
 

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...And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
This is a significant statement in Daniel which is confirmed in the NT.We know that the saints of God will reign with Christ for 1,000 years (Rev 20).

But according to everything revealed about the Church, it would also appear that the saints will be delegated authority and rule for eternity, and the degree of authority will be governed by the amount of suffering endured on earth.

And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all. (Eph 1:22,23)

"And hath put all things under his feet" refers to the eternal power, authority and rule of Christ for eternity as revealed in this passage:Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come (v 21)

In this context, the Church is called "the fulness of Him that filleth all in all". Which means that the authority of Christ over all creation will be extended through the Church, which is the saints of God, and is explained further in these verses: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: (Eph 2:10,11)

The principalities and powers are the hierarchies of angelic beings (both good and bad) in the heavenlies (with only the holy angels in God's Heaven). Even though angels are far more powerful than humans, they are not the saints of God, but ministering spirits for the saints. So they will know through the Church that God has delegated His authority, which was already given fully to Christ, further through the saints of the most High. And this is according to His eternal purpose.

It would appear that just as an earthly ruler delegates authority through provincial and local governors and governments, Christ will make His saints -- selectively -- rulers and governors, and possibly throughout the universe. As we know from several parables, the degree of responsibility will be determined by the faithfulness of Christians on earth, with the twelve apostles receiving twelve thrones in order to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.

So Christians who were lazy, or irresponsible, or lackadaisical, or misleading others on earth will be given little or no responsibility (an aspect of rewards), whereas those who endured, suffered, or were martyred will be given great responsibilities for eternity. We will not be sitting around on clouds, strumming harps, as some vainly imagine.
 

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This is a significant statement in Daniel which is confirmed in the NT.We know that the saints of God will reign with Christ for 1,000 years (Rev 20).

But according to everything revealed about the Church, it would also appear that the saints will be delegated authority and rule for eternity, and the degree of authority will be governed by the amount of suffering endured on earth.

And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all. (Eph 1:22,23)

"And hath put all things under his feet" refers to the eternal power, authority and rule of Christ for eternity as revealed in this passage:Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come (v 21)

In this context, the Church is called "the fulness of Him that filleth all in all". Which means that the authority of Christ over all creation will be extended through the Church, which is the saints of God, and is explained further in these verses: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: (Eph 2:10,11)

The principalities and powers are the hierarchies of angelic beings (both good and bad) in the heavenlies (with only the holy angels in God's Heaven). Even though angels are far more powerful than humans, they are not the saints of God, but ministering spirits for the saints. So they will know through the Church that God has delegated His authority, which was already given fully to Christ, further through the saints of the most High.

It would appear that just as an earthly ruler delegates authority through provincial and local governors and governments, Christ will make His saints -- selectively -- rulers and governors, and possibly throughout the universe. As we know from several parables, the degree of responsibility will be determined by the faithfulness of Christians on earth, with the twelve apostles receiving twelve thrones in order to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.

So Christians who were lazy, or irresponsible, or lackadaisical, or misleading others on earth will be given little or no responsibility (an aspect of rewards), whereas those who endured, suffered, or were martyred will be given great responsibilities for eternity. We will not be sitting around on clouds, strumming harps, as some vainly imagine.

The body is also Israel.

Ephesians 3:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
 

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The body is also Israel.
TOTALLY FALSE.

The Body is the Church. Israel is redeemed and restored Israel on earth. BIG DIFFERENCE.

But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. (Isa 45:17)

I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory. (Isa 46:13)

Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.(Isa 44:23)

He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit. (Isa 27:6)

For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody. (Isa 51:3)
 

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TOTALLY FALSE.

The Body is the Church. Israel is redeemed and restored Israel on earth. BIG DIFFERENCE.

But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. (Isa 45:17)

I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory. (Isa 46:13)

Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.(Isa 44:23)

He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit. (Isa 27:6)

For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody. (Isa 51:3)


Ephesians 3:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
 

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OT. Prophecy saying that We Believers will Rule WIth Jesus on Earth For All Eternity!!
Daniel 7:27-28
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’
Indeed...and it has already begun for those who will enter in!

Most assume that because life in the world appears to go sinfully on in death and sorrows, that "thy kingdom come" meant in the distant future. Yet, Jesus also made it clear that those who "were" entering in 2000 years ago were then hindered by the naysayers, just as they are today. This He did having declared, "surely the kingdom of God has come upon you." Not in the future, but then.

Therefore, for those who now have new life in Christ...it has begun, and it is for everlasting.
 

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Yes!! There is a spiritual kingdom but there is also a very physical eternal kingdom that Jesus will very soon set up and rule with the born-again believers!!!
 
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Yes!! There is a spiritual kingdom but there is also a very physical eternal kingdom that Jesus will very soon set up and rule with the born-again believers!!!
The earth is going to be destroyed by fire.

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (2 Peter 3:10–13) (KJV 1900)
 

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Yes!! God will make His eternal home with His family!!
Revelation 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
 

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