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And an equal part of the problem which you so aptly articulated, is that the HIRELINGS do all the Praying, Hearing, Pronouncing, and Thinking.
hmmm, I have no recollection of that sentiment BJ.
 

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” – Thomas Paine

“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.” – Edward R Murrow

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Has anyone thought at what point they would draw the line in the sand and say 'no more'? At what point are you willing to stand up and replace your government? It seems like we're all milling around, grumbling, yet not acting. At what point should we try to abolish our government? Or are we too socialized, too controlled, too afraid, too waiting for God to fix it?

Well, I don't have the U.N. or military powers to really "do" anything. Socialism and communism are sisters, that great religion they say will come from the north(Russia), must be communism.
I don't have an answer... nor do I have any power except 1 vote. And it doesn't matter how you vote, it's who counts the vote. I could handle letting a few states leave the union. And at least having my tax $$ go where they were intended to go. Just my opinion.
Is socialism what Christ taught? I know it wasn't capitalism, but hard work has it's rewards. Our government is a puppetshow, of which I don't find ANY moral worth.

I feel almost like a computer program that still has bugs. The only "patch" is Yeshua and the voice he gives us with our Father. There will be no peace, He told us so.
 
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BG...Israel denied the very thing they said they looked forward to....they denied him by disregarding the words of their deliverer.
God warned Israel again and again and yet again. Ultimately they took no notice.

How do you imagine that came about after having so many reminders, so much evidence of God's care and leading?

Could it be that their rebellion; their justification of their path being so right; so entrenched, they never heard his words? Finally Jesus said 'your house is left to you desolate' and they were destroyed by the Romans.

These things are written for our instruction.

Christians are in the same situation. God has spoken clearly yet the Christian world at large continues to disregard his commands all the while flattering themselves that they are doing his will....just like Israel.

America is dismantling faith in God and pursuing the worship of other Gods in the name of worshipping God. They are disregarding God's Law....they have created a belief system that violates God's word....they are smug in the justification of their actions, just like Israel.

The Christian cry that the law of the Ten Commandments has been done away with is a gross misunderstanding of Paul's words and intent but it suits the cultural majority because they don't need to be separate in their thinking and actions.....they can blend with the world undetected.

God calls us to be his witnesses....witnesses to his righteousness.
Every person who values God's Grace; every person who recognises God's words/will, will recognise their embodiment in his Commandments and will not dismiss the least, in fact will bend all his/her energies to be in harmony with them.

I hear his words personally, putting on the armour of God I strive for the prize....I do not pummel the air.
Will the presumptuous Christian now say, you are trying to work your way to heaven in an attempt to dismiss God's claims on him/her?? No doubt they will.
I never understood how with so many miracles and warnings from God, through Moses, the Jews kept sinning against God, even Moses was punished by God when he used the wrong words, when he became angry with the Jews and used the wrong words and said we, and put himself in the same context as God, when he was a mere mortal doing the miracles through a God’s commands.
 

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I was reading them, there are 7 of them they are like the 10 commandments, how are they bad?

From what I understand as to why pastors are concerned, is that although the laws sound good, they are to be interpreted by rabbis. They believe that Jesus being God is considered idolatry. The penalty for not obeying these laws is death by beheading.

A lot of what I've read this past year seems unbelievable to me, but when you really look into it, you see that people at the apex of power are satanists. It still seems hard to believe, but ask yourself what moral person could keep sending young Americans to fight endless wars? And they usually lie about the reasons for the wars. I saw some photos of young foreign children that America had bombed and it made me sick. I think we are all under a blanket of delusion. When I first came to God, I experienced the "veil" being removed and I could see myself as I really was, not as how I thought I was. I could begin to understand Scripture - little by little. I've come to believe that we continue to live under deception about the world around us until little by little that deception is removed and we can see the stark ugliness of what is really going on. I've had another "veil" of sorts removed this past year or so.

From what I understand, Skull & Bones that Bush and others belong to is not some prankster college kids playing around. These people are really involved in tampering with the occult. It may have descended down from Moses' day. Remember when Moses threw the staff down it became a serpent? The sorcerers and magicians threw their staffs down and they also became serpents. But Aarons rod swallowed theirs up. So it looks like those magical arts may have been passed down. When you start to piece together a picture, you can see how it fits together. Then it falls into place of why John Kennedy gave a speech warning America about "secret societies" and called them repugnant. Within a few short weeks he was assassinated. Brakelite had given a good resource called "Vatican Assassins" - I haven't read it all the way through yet but the Vatican is hooked together in the unholy mess.

So the individuals at the apex of power have no love for Christians. You can see how society is growing ungodlier by the day with the things they're implementing. So I think that's why some of these things are concerning. Just this past year I've really come to realize the truth of 1 John 5:19 "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."

I copied the following from the website which I gave a link to. I haven't watched the video yet:

The seven laws themselves were written by Rambam (famous rabbi). He claimed to be recording something that was much older, but there is no previous record of them in this form. They actually contradict the much older book of Jubilees, found at Qumran so of reliable antiquity, that records a different set of laws as being given to Noah. But the new laws that Rambam claimed were given to Noah are:
  1. Not to worship idols.
  2. Not to curse God.
  3. To establish courts of justice.
  4. Not to commit murder.
  5. Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.
  6. Not to steal.
  7. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Very critically, the idea that Jesus / Yeshua is God is considered idolatry. So, according to Talmud, Christianity is forbidden under the first Noahide law. And idolatry is punishable by death, so Christianity is punishable by death. This is serious. This is the deeper truth. Lots of talmud references here.

The deeper implications are also very concerning for the Hebrew Roots community. Note that the Noahide laws do not include the Sabbath. The Talmud prohibits the teaching of Torah to gentiles. Also, it prohibits gentiles from observing Sabbath. Torah and Sabbath are considered to be given to Israel alone (and obviously only the Jews are recognised by them as Israel). This means the entire Hebrew Roots movement is forbidden under the Talmud, and the Noahide laws.

There are strong similarities between the implications of Noahide laws and the implications of Sharia - but the major difference is that Sharia is openly opposed by most Christians, while Noahide laws are sneaking in to the secular law of Western countries through the back door. So in the long run they may pose a greater danger.

There is a serious difference between true Judaism, those Jews who follow Torah and simply have not yet accepted Messiah, and Talmudic Judaism, that accepts all these additional writings including the Noahide laws. What I am saying here is not anti-Jewish or anti-Messianic. It is a warning against a very serious deception instigated by a part of the Jewish community - just as there are some groups of Christians that have problematic views also.

If you have been drawn into this issue, you should take 2 hours to watch this comprehensive discussion to see what's really going on.

Noahide laws - a dangerous deception
 
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Ezekiel 38 & 39 and Daniel 11:40-44 describe a war in the Middle East which will be provoked presumably by Iran and/or Russia. The U.S. and her allies will respond by "thrusting at" the offending party. And then all hell will break loose to the point of tactical nuclear weapons over the valley of Megiddo. And I suspect that the FAKE NEWS will pin the blame on Trump and he will lose the next election.

So keep watching the Persian Gulf, exactly as we saw late last night with the attempted pirating of a British tanker by Iranian gun boats. -- Expect Ezekiel & Daniel this summer.


Bobby Jo

Can you explain who you think the players are - such as Mog and Magog and the King of the North?
 

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1. Christians should understand that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16)

2. Therefore Christians have been commanded by Christ to do this:
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Mt 28:19,20)
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mk 16:15,16)
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (Lk 24:47)
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

3. This is the only mandate given to Christians. We need not waste our time on examining all the machinations of the devil, since the Gospel is meant to destroy the power of the devil over human lives.

4. Dominion Theology/Theonomy/Christian Reconstructionism (which is false) teaches that Christians should impose Christian standards on society to create a worldwide kingdom governed by the Ten Commandments. But that is not what Christ has said. Jesus has made it clear that it is the New Birth which is imperative, and that the Gospel (under the convicting and convincing power of the Holy Spirit) is the seed of the New Birth (1 Pet 1:23-25).

5. Christians should clearly understand that there has been a Satanic conspiracy ever since Lucifer became ha Satan (the Adversary). God will allow both Satan and the Antichrist 3 1/2 years to take total control of this world, and we are approaching that time (which will also be the time of strong delusion). But until the Resurrection/Rapture, the Holy Spirit is restraining Satan so that the Gospel can have a worldwide impact. And that should be the focus of Christians.

Your suggestion is one thing that has been impressed upon me since I'm watching the world turn evil - I have returned to evangelism. I leave Christian pamphlets around wherever I go. After reading a Christian magazine I'll leave it where others can read it. Someone else who evangelized many years ago was a godsend to me. When I sought God the radio name it and claim it hucksters saw me coming and I was constantly asked to "send in your seed faith gift today for a blessing!" It's such a shame that people make a business out of God and mislead others, much like the moneychangers. But I continued on, not knowing any believers. I was spiritually reborn and hadn't sought it, but when I found the book "Steps to Christ" that someone had left in a store I learned what had happened to me. So that's one thing I'm doing - evangelizing.

I want to do more but have not found an outlet as yet. I write to legislators a good deal but I don't think it does a lot. I'm waiting for God to show me what else He wants me to do. I'd like to initiate more wholesome movies to be shown to kids so I'm looking at options. Sometimes I think that just becoming more holy within becomes a good witness to the world. So that's another aspect that I feel is important - inner change. I keep feeling that something is coming - I just don't know what yet. I know that people have thought for years that theirs was the end times but it has to be in somebody's generation. I think we all know that no country can continue on with an overstretched military, only half the country working and supporting the other half, and youth being poisoned with Hollywood, and the general way America has been operating. Try running your home like that and you'll lose your house, car, and livelihood. We also know that God is going to remove His Hand of blessing.
 

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I have 30 years experience in my field and am currently looking for a job as I explained I’m my thread Please Help Me and no one wants to pay what I’m asking, why? Because too many 3rd world immigrants willing to work for a quarter of what I get paid.

I agree with you and this post @Soverign Grace.

Yes I heard Hitler is part Jewish, Rothschild to be exact.

We went to our brother-in-laws and I was speaking with a man who I sensed was depressed, so I drew him out. He told me that he was fired, along with all his co-workers, and replaced with immigrants. Here's a man in his 50's having to start all over again. The way that immigrants get by on so little pay is that they either go into subsidized housing or a lot of them live in one house. They had a problem in CO where migrants were stealing houses. It happened to someone I know - they just move into your house when you go out shopping or on vacation. People in the area were very frightened from what I heard. No one knows what's happening in America. There is a really nice Mexican couple that are friends with my family and you couldn't ask for nicer people. But we just cannot handle all these foreigners - there aren't enough jobs, houses, or social services. The plan is to drop America to 3rd world status and we can see that happening because wages have stayed flat for 40 years while inflation and health insurance has skyrocketed.

I read last night that American doctors are being pushed out by foreign doctors. You can really see the writing on the wall: America is fast turning into a 3rd world country with lack of jobs and resources. Social services are being drained and we were in an area where immigrants used the hospital for all their health care. My husband took me there doubled over and I couldn't be seen. They told me it would be a 5 hour wait. I begged them to take me but they wouldn't. I waited about an hour or two but left. A lot of hospitals closed down in the area. A relative lives there and is looking to move. They said doctors are leaving the hospital because they said they can't keep giving away free health care. They have to use a translation machine to talk to the people. I keep warning people that it's coming to your city but no one is doing anything.

Bad times are coming - we can see it. This was in Breitbart - I don't know if it can help you, but I'll pray for you. The only jobs that seem secure now are government jobs. We're turning into a totalitarianism where everyone is going to work for the government:

During the last year, these professionals have organized into several groups, including the American Workers Coalition, doctorswithoutjobs.com, ProUSworkers, No on H.R. 1044, and The Multinational Coalition Against H.R. 1044/S. 386. In 2018, these American opponents of the green card giveaway bill helped defeat Kansas GOP Rep. Kevin Yoder, who supported a prior version of the legislation.

Kevin McCarthy, 140 GOP Reps Vote for Democrat Plan to Outsource Jobs
 
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But the new laws that Rambam claimed were given to Noah are:
  1. Not to worship idols.
  2. Not to curse God.
  3. To establish courts of justice.
  4. Not to commit murder.
  5. Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.
  6. Not to steal.
  7. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
This is a good example of a Jewish rabbi manufacturing his own theology. There is not one of these so-called Noahide Laws which corresponds to anything in Genesis 9.
 
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Can you explain who you think the players are - such as Mog and Magog and the King of the North?

Hi SG,
Your cited King of the North solves most of the riddle.
  • In Daniel Chapter 11, the U.K. is the King of the South, and the U.S. is the strong prince which became the KING OF THE SOUTH at WWII. Remember, after WWI the U.S. retreated into isolationism, but at the advent of WWII the U.S. became the predominate world power. Thus we see the Daniel 7 Lion/Eagle; and the Rev. 13 "mouth of the Lion" which documents the U.K./U.S. proficiency in Trade, Commerce, Finance, Science, and Technology.
  • Russia is the King of the North, which answers the identity of the Ezekiel 38 & 38 identities. Daniel 7 documents Russia as the Bear with the three ribs /three (and ONLY THREE) illegal conquests since WWII; with Rev. 13 identifying the bear as the "feet" because all other major nations (i.e., the U.S., Canada, & China) all have 3M sq. miles, but Russia has 8 MILLION SQUARE MILES.
  • China is the (King of the) East with it's 200M man army -- 10% (20M) under arms, and 90% (180M) for logistics. Daniel 7 describes China as a circularly marked cat (leopard) because that's all that Daniel was familiar with, but he actually saw a VERTICALLY MARKED CAT -- the TIGER. And Rev. 13 depicts this vertically marked cat (a "leopard") which is the "Body" because China has the world's LARGEST POPULATION.

So that's the basics for the "King of the North" and associated inferences.

But in the conflict anticipated for this summer, we should expect the U.S. and her allies, including Saudi Arabia and other oil producing allies on one side; and Russia, Iran, Lybia, and Sudan (called "Ethiopia" because modern Sudan was half of ancient Ethiopia) on the other side. And there may be complicit participation by Turkey because Russia will have to march thru the east end or Turkey to get to Israel, who will use tactical nuclear weapons in her own territory (the valley of Megiddo) rather than the approaches to avoid international condemnation. Of course China will march her 200M man army to spank Russia, and the U.N. will "heal" Russia's "mortal wound" (Rev. 13).

So that's the battle of Armageddon, but the U.N. will end up with global thermonuclear war, and then Jesus will return.

And we're already one year into the 42 month Tribulation (Rev. 13:5). So it might be wise to prepare your households for some 2 years in the future when we won't be able to buy or sell; and for the GTNW (global thermo nuclear war) in some 2 1/2 years.

Good to go?
Bobby Jo
 
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1. Christians should understand that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16)

2. Therefore Christians have been commanded by Christ to do this:
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Mt 28:19,20)
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mk 16:15,16)
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (Lk 24:47)
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

3. This is the only mandate given to Christians. We need not waste our time on examining all the machinations of the devil, since the Gospel is meant to destroy the power of the devil over human lives.

4. Dominion Theology/Theonomy/Christian Reconstructionism (which is false) teaches that Christians should impose Christian standards on society to create a worldwide kingdom governed by the Ten Commandments. But that is not what Christ has said. Jesus has made it clear that it is the New Birth which is imperative, and that the Gospel (under the convicting and convincing power of the Holy Spirit) is the seed of the New Birth (1 Pet 1:23-25).

5. Christians should clearly understand that there has been a Satanic conspiracy ever since Lucifer became ha Satan (the Adversary). God will allow both Satan and the Antichrist 3 1/2 years to take total control of this world, and we are approaching that time (which will also be the time of strong delusion). But until the Resurrection/Rapture, the Holy Spirit is restraining Satan so that the Gospel can have a worldwide impact. And that should be the focus of Christians.


Amen.
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The sky wont fall until God announces that it is Time.
 

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And we're already one year into the 42 month Tribulation (Rev. 13:5). So it might be wise to prepare your households for some 2 years in the future when we won't be able to buy or sell; and for the GTNW (global thermo nuclear war) in some 2 1/2 years.
How did you come up with this fantastical nonsense?

As to the king of the north and the king of the south, that is all ancient history. The Seleucids and the Ptolemies had their battles a long time ago.
 

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How did you come up with this fantastical nonsense?
Scoffers are NEVER told ANYTHING. They get to be SURPRISED! :)

1 Thess. 5:3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

As to the king of the north and the king of the south, that is all ancient history. The Seleucids and the Ptolemies had their battles a long time ago.

Yep. You disobey the angel's instructions in 12:4 & 9, and then contrive a FALSE Scripture and a FALSE History. and voila -- it STILL doesn't work.


Whew,
Bobby Jo
 

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This is what I think Trump is doing to the American people:


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Definitely by way of the Ecumenical Movement. He's doing more to get the Beast and the False Prophet together than ever before.
 

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Hi SG,
Your cited King of the North solves most of the riddle.
  • In Daniel Chapter 11, the U.K. is the King of the South, and the U.S. is the strong prince which became the KING OF THE SOUTH at WWII. Remember, after WWI the U.S. retreated into isolationism, but at the advent of WWII the U.S. became the predominate world power. Thus we see the Daniel 7 Lion/Eagle; and the Rev. 13 "mouth of the Lion" which documents the U.K./U.S. proficiency in Trade, Commerce, Finance, Science, and Technology.
  • Russia is the King of the North, which answers the identity of the Ezekiel 38 & 38 identities. Daniel 7 documents Russia as the Bear with the three ribs /three (and ONLY THREE) illegal conquests since WWII; with Rev. 13 identifying the bear as the "feet" because all other major nations (i.e., the U.S., Canada, & China) all have 3M sq. miles, but Russia has 8 MILLION SQUARE MILES.
  • China is the (King of the) East with it's 200M man army -- 10% (20M) under arms, and 90% (180M) for logistics. Daniel 7 describes China as a circularly marked cat (leopard) because that's all that Daniel was familiar with, but he actually saw a VERTICALLY MARKED CAT -- the TIGER. And Rev. 13 depicts this vertically marked cat (a "leopard") which is the "Body" because China has the world's LARGEST POPULATION.

So that's the basics for the "King of the North" and associated inferences.

But in the conflict anticipated for this summer, we should expect the U.S. and her allies, including Saudi Arabia and other oil producing allies on one side; and Russia, Iran, Lybia, and Sudan (called "Ethiopia" because modern Sudan was half of ancient Ethiopia) on the other side. And there may be complicit participation by Turkey because Russia will have to march thru the east end or Turkey to get to Israel, who will use tactical nuclear weapons in her own territory (the valley of Megiddo) rather than the approaches to avoid international condemnation. Of course China will march her 200M man army to spank Russia, and the U.N. will "heal" Russia's "mortal wound" (Rev. 13).

So that's the battle of Armageddon, but the U.N. will end up with global thermonuclear war, and then Jesus will return.

And we're already one year into the 42 month Tribulation (Rev. 13:5). So it might be wise to prepare your households for some 2 years in the future when we won't be able to buy or sell; and for the GTNW (global thermo nuclear war) in some 2 1/2 years.

Good to go?
Bobby Jo

That's a lot to grasp but I'll piece it together in time. I know that the Vatican and Presidents have moved us towards a one world government and one world religion but I'm not sure which countries are in on the plan and which are resisting, if any. I have felt 'something' is coming. I do think that things are about to get very bad in America. I read last night that DHS warned everyone to have 6 months worth of supplies.
 

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Golly, that was a long article. But I read it.

I guess they were and are getting everything signed that they can sign,,,"for later use".

One wonders how many other thousand law have been signed that we don't know about.

But, let us remember that Haman in the book of Esther also signed a contract...but God over turned it.

I still believe that God looks after His own.

"Let God arise and His enemies be scattered."
I got halfway through and started getting sleepy. Did I miss anything? LOL

I'm well aware of the satanic influence of Zionism in America, but this is ridiculous, ain't it?
 
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I see 'Chicken Little' is foaming at the mouth again. I swear, that woman must be scared of her own shadow... everyone she knows seems to be out to get her.
If we all believe Jesus is about to come, shouldn't we expect that all that NWO stuff in Revelation is about to come to pass? If so, the level of secrecy regarding the setting up of a global police state that will enforce the Mark has to be unprecedented.
 

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My uncle's farm had a manure spreader he called the "turd hearse". And that stuff flew over everyone's head.

Bobby Jo
That hearse mustve left some wicked skid marks all over y'all. Next time, just come in out of the rain.
 

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Well, I don't have the U.N. or military powers to really "do" anything. Socialism and communism are sisters, that great religion they say will come from the north(Russia), must be communism.
I don't have an answer... nor do I have any power except 1 vote. And it doesn't matter how you vote, it's who counts the vote. I could handle letting a few states leave the union. And at least having my tax $$ go where they were intended to go. Just my opinion.
Is socialism what Christ taught? I know it wasn't capitalism, but hard work has it's rewards. Our government is a puppetshow, of which I don't find ANY moral worth.

I feel almost like a computer program that still has bugs. The only "patch" is Yeshua and the voice he gives us with our Father. There will be no peace, He told us so.

You do have more power than 1 vote. Any person can become an activist and you're only limited by the law and your imagination. I'm starting a project right now trying to get local legislators to send out a questionnaire to their constituents to find what issues are the most important to give everyone a say in the government. As soon as anyone is elected they turn around and do the opposite of what they said they would do. You've heard the saying "silence equals assent." If you don't speak up or do anything then legislators interpret that to mean you're okay with what they're doing. I'm a thorn in their side - I write over issues all the time. They don't answer me anymore and then I email them and tell them they're not answering me. If all of us did that then it may have at least more of an impact then just casting a vote.

I'm looking for other ways to exert influence. Have you thought of running for office yourself or volunteering to help a good candidate win an election? I just think that too many Christians are expecting things to get bad and aren't working to try to keep them good. Think of this: No matter how little you know about politics, you'd do a 100% better job than 99.9% of the people who have been in there. Have you thought of joining the John Birch Society to try to influence the government? Look at all James Dobson has done - why can't you start a family association or try to get the 10 commandments put in front of your local city hall? Near us there is a stone tablet with the ten commandments on it and every time I pass it I get such a sense of God's Spirit - maybe we can help bring more of what's godly to our area. I just think there is a lot more that we can do than we're doing.
 
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