First of all. We must fear God. Understand that he can turn his back and let us go to hell. That will help, by knowing that. Before we sin, there is always an opportunity to say no. If we sin one time, then repent. Then keep committing that same sin, that show that we are not serious, so God turns his back.
Our sins were forgiven after believing in the Lord, but why do we still often sin? How can we finally escape the bondage of sin?
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amigo de christo
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It be LORD praising time in the building and round the world . Yes , it is that time again . So raise those hands
and let all that draweth breath praise the glorious LORD .
And in all things we do or say may it HONOR HIM . Praise be to the GLORIOUS LORD . To the trenches the hour is late indeed
and more soliders of the LORD are needed in this final hour battle to contend for the true faith .
and let all that draweth breath praise the glorious LORD .
And in all things we do or say may it HONOR HIM . Praise be to the GLORIOUS LORD . To the trenches the hour is late indeed
and more soliders of the LORD are needed in this final hour battle to contend for the true faith .
Aunty Jane
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Jesus told us that it was going to happen even before he left this earth.
Matt 13:24-30…
“He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. 26 When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. 27 So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29 He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’”. . . . . .
The disciples asked for an explanation of this one parable among many…..in Vs 36-43 he gives his explanation.…
“Then after dismissing the crowds, he went into the house. His disciples came to him and said: “Explain to us the illustration of the weeds in the field.” 37 In response he said: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world. As for the fine seed, these are the sons of the Kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen.”
Here we have Jesus describing what would take place after his departure. The devil would sow a counterfeit “Christianity”, “while men were sleeping”….but he does not elaborate on whether this was spiritual sleepiness, or if he meant that after the apostles died, (sleeping in death) satan would be able to accomplish his sowing of the weeds because their restraining influence was gone….but either way, that is what happened.
Paul warned….2 Thess 2:1-7
“1 However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you not to be quickly shaken from your reason. . . . .3 Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. . . . .6 And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way.”
That foretold apostasy, was beginning whilst the apostles were still alive, but restrained by their presence……that gradual falling away to a false Christianity, gave birth to Christendom.
Christendom is the most reprehensible part of “Babylon the great” because she corrupted the faith by introducing all manner of doctrines that find their origin, not in the Bible, but can be traced back to original Babylon….the birthplace of all false religion.
We are told……. “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice* to mind”. (Rev 18:4-5)
This begs the question…how did God’s people come to be in “Babylon the great” in the first place?
If we go back to the time when Israel fell to false worship, God allowed the Babylonians to conquer them and to take them captive, far from their homeland for 70 years. Once in Babylon we see that it’s king was keen to separate the children of the nobles in order to introduce them to the ways of Babylon’s religion….but among these young men were Daniel, Shaʹdrach, Meʹshach, and A·bedʹne·go. They even gave them Babylonian names and tried to indoctrinate them.….and served them foods that God’s law forbade. They refused.
These four young men were outstanding in their devotion to Jehovah, which demonstrates the same problem that the Israelites had wandering in the wilderness for 40 years…..the faithful among them suffered because of the unfaithful ones. But we have examples in these ones of those, who despite their circumstances, remained faithful to the truth of God’s word.
We today have wandered in the spiritual wilderness created by the devil and his many forms of false worship for centuries. He does not care what gods you worship as long as it isn’t Jehovah. All worship that is false goes to the pretender….and that includes the false worship that infiltrated Christendom. By the time of Constantine, “Christianity“ was a weak shadow of its former self….ripe for the takeover of an astute Emperor who saw political gain in consolidating his divided empire by mandating one form of worship for all…Roman Catholicism. It was a clever mixture of pagan Roman sun worship fused with weak Christianity…catering to both, so it saw little resistance.
Constantine never became a genuine Christian but was a worshipper of Zeus his whole life.
So can we see the foundations and the “types and shadows” that the Bible gives us when we study it carefully? Cherished doctrines that originated in the RCC, still permeate Christendom’s many denominations And are supported by biased Bible translations that fail to distinguish truth from falsehood.
God will only “draw” those who respond to the truth….not those who cling to false doctrines that the Bible has never taught. (John 6:44, 65)
We are all on trial here…..our decisions will determine our future. We have to have the big picture or the devil has got us right where he wants us….hoodwinked.
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amigo de christo
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The true lambs have all we need , JESUS CHRIST . Get in that bible and learn HIM well .
The massive falsehoods have been and now nigh the end have grown more massive than ever .
Now the lie has come to unite all the false to merge as one under a false love . YES .
Used to be the false religoins were divided and stood on their own . NOW they UNITE as one
under this lie . This delusion is a powerful one too . It is uniting mormons , jws , adventists , baptists
and all within christendom to find common ground under ITS FALSE LOVE TREE to UNIFY the WORLD as one .
And EVERY DENOMINATION and even the other religons like jewish , buddists , muslims and others
EVEN they are coming to the table and merging as one . AS i SAID this lie is gonna merge THE FALSE TO UNIFY AS ONE .
No longer will they be divided , THEY WILL BE UNITED . AND AS ONE THEY COMING FOR THE LAMBS to RID THE EARTH of
all true lambs who resisted this lie . THIS WILL BE THE CLIMATIC END HOUR GREAT TRIBULATION .
DONT SIT at the table of pope francis and these unifying religoins and faiths . ITS ALL A DECEPTOIN . ITS ALL A FALSE LOVE
and its all to give honor unto the Dragon and the very beast , YET THEY ALL will believe ITS GODS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE
and UNITY . DONT BUY IT . DONT BUY IT . stand firm on all biblical truth . HARSH Times are coming for
the lambs . The time of relative so called peace in the western nations , IS FAST COMING TO AN END .
REAL LIVE PERSECUTIONS are coming and will rise against EVEN the true lambs in america and round the world .
AS all merge under what they beleive is GOD , believe is love , BUT IS RATHER THE DRAGON . Cant be stopped .
SO IF YOU HEAR COMMON GROUND , BRIDGE BUILDERS , etc , G ET THE heck out , IT means its already at work in ya church .
Aunty Jane
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What do you believe unites the lambs Amigo? What is it that they have, that others who call themselves “Christians“ don’t? Perhaps you could enlighten those who read your words with fear, and tell them what it is about Jesus that they need to know…..because apparently those who believe that they are “Christians” have no idea that they are being hoodwinked.
What is it that they need to believe about Jesus that they don’t already?
Those false Christians have their Bibles and most are taught by those who are graduates of theological colleges…so what’s the problem? What are they LEARNING, that they shouldn’t?
I can only speak for my own brotherhood Amigo….JW’s are united with no one….we left Christendom about 100 years ago and we are never going back. There are none who share all our beliefs, though some have discovered the truth about a few things….just not everything.
Those who want to convince others that God does not have strict standards have never read the Bible.
The Hebrew Scriptures are full of accounts of those who wanted to do things their way and they felt the full impact of an immovable God….one who will not alter his standards for anyone.
What do you see as the purpose of that unity? Religion has always been a divider of people, causing wars and religious hatred to fester and grow until we see it spill over into outright war, but some might find the notion of unity appealing if it meant the end to hostilities and innocent victims being killed or suffering the loss of their homes and possessions.
I see you encouraging others to “praise the Lord” as if that somehow solves all the problems…..we need to learn how and why we need to praise the Lord…..but first we have to find out who that “Lord” really is. We need to meet him by means of his written word and form a close bond with him…..but don’t we need to know what he’s doing right now when the world appears to be falling apart?
If someone wanted to know how to serve God correctly, where would you send them?…..or should I say, “to whom“ would you send them? The Bible is not a book that can just be read on its own…..it requires the right teachers, which God has always provided…..Jesus left his ministry in the hands of capable men who carried on his work….so who are those ones today?
Yes. Our minds are being renewed back to before Adam and Eve listened to the devil. Demons don't come to us as snakes, they talk to our minds. It's an inner voice. That's the reason we are to be born again, so that we can decern the voice of God from demons.
Yes, having our minds renewed daily, and our souls fed thru the Spirit in the word, we then gain a gift of discernment to distinguish between the voices of men, the devil or the voice of God; which is backed by his word and verified in His Spirit !
The devil doesn't bother his own but those that follow God, saying " but did God REALLY say " ye shall surely die". (The soul that SINNETH, it shall die! Ez 18: 20-21) It is imperative after salvation, to feast on the word, pressing towards the mark of the HIGH calling of God in Jesus to walk in UNION WITH HIM.
Many claim the taste of salvation and never mature beyond bc they do not partake of the meat of the word, content instead on the milk.
Therefore they are easily deceived by the many voices.
Actually we should be renewing our minds as being new creatures IN Christ Jesus.... this is far better than what Adam and Eve were before they sinned.
But he does in fact move to further cement the deception in them as He knows the Lord's Body has been commissioned to preach the gospel.
Before they sinned, their thoughts were connected to Gods. They knew no evil. After they disobeyed and listen to the devil, their thoughts became evil. Thats why they noticed their nakedness. Didn't before. So, we need to get our minds back to where they were before.
GRACE ambassador
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GRACE ambassador
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OP: Our sins were forgiven after believing in the Lord, but why do we still often sin?
How can we finally escape the bondage of sin?
Precious friend, please be Encouraged And Edified in this brief study:
1) Past Tense:Yes, all sin is Forgiven!:
[ He Delivered us From the Death Penalty (2 Corinthians 1:10a) ],
when we trusted Him, because of His Precious BLOOD, but:
2) Present Tense:
a) We still often sin, because of the Power of sin:
"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for
to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not."
(Romans 7:18)
b) By God's All-Sufficient Grace we can be delivered [2 Corinthians 1:10b] from
this, by acknowledging "God Will Conform us Unto The Image Of His Son"
(Romans 8:29), and, by heeding And cooperating with His Word:
1) "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the Mercies of God, that
ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto
God, which is your reasonable service.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by
the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that Good,
and Acceptable, and Perfect, Will of God." (Romans 12:1-2)
2) Allow The Christ, Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In ONE Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
3) Allow His Spirit, Guiding and Teaching us, How To:
"Study to show thyself Approved Unto God, a
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15)
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15)
More helpful / Encouraging study: Finishing The Race
(3) Future Tense:Thanks Be Unto God for our Final Escape!:
"He [God] Will Yet Deliver us" From 'The Presence' of sin:
Christ's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise His Excellent Name!!!
Amen.
Godslittleservant
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sheariah07
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"Our sins were forgiven after believing in the Lord, but why do we still often sin? How can we finally escape the bondage of sin?"
This is a very important question. It makes a lot of sense.
We go through Romans 7, becoming a Christian and God giving us a renewed desire to please him, and then us trying to subdue our sins on our own strength. That is to bring us to our knees in realizing that it is impossible for us to subdue our sins because we are still carnal. (Romans 7)
When a Christian learns that, he cries out as Paul cried out
Romans 7:24-25 KJV
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? [25] I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Now those last two verses of Romans 7 was Paul realizing that he cannot subdue his own sins by his own strength. He realized that with men, it is impossible. But also the last verse, he realized that Jesus is that one who could subdue his sins without his help, finally setting him free from the bondage of sin. He realized that though with men it is impossible, with God nothing is impossible.
Jesus said that whoever commits sin is a servant of sin, but when he sets you free, you are free indeed. Jesus does not contradict himself. So if a Christian is still sinning over and over again, that only means he is still a servant of sin. But it is only God's way of humbling us and removing our trust in our own strength and pointing us toward Jesus Christ who alone can save us from committing sins. It is supernatural when it happens.
This is a very important question. It makes a lot of sense.
The answer is Romans 7. There are two stages of being a Christian. The first stage is when you accept Christ and repent of your sins and you fight your sins, try not to sin, but still end up doing the same sins again over and over again. This is what's described in Romans 7. But there's also a Romans 8 Christian, someone who's done fighting sins but always ends up failing.
We go through Romans 7, becoming a Christian and God giving us a renewed desire to please him, and then us trying to subdue our sins on our own strength. That is to bring us to our knees in realizing that it is impossible for us to subdue our sins because we are still carnal. (Romans 7)
When a Christian learns that, he cries out as Paul cried out
Romans 7:24-25 KJV
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? [25] I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Now those last two verses of Romans 7 was Paul realizing that he cannot subdue his own sins by his own strength. He realized that with men, it is impossible. But also the last verse, he realized that Jesus is that one who could subdue his sins without his help, finally setting him free from the bondage of sin. He realized that though with men it is impossible, with God nothing is impossible.
Jesus said that whoever commits sin is a servant of sin, but when he sets you free, you are free indeed. Jesus does not contradict himself. So if a Christian is still sinning over and over again, that only means he is still a servant of sin. But it is only God's way of humbling us and removing our trust in our own strength and pointing us toward Jesus Christ who alone can save us from committing sins. It is supernatural when it happens.
So, if a "christian" keeps sinning again and again.... it sounds like it's Jesus' fault for not forcing them to stop sinning.
The fact of the matter is, the person is responsible for turning away from sin and the Lord will be there with His power to help them stop
But, He does not make anybody stop sinning if they use their free will to decide to keep doing sinful stuff.
And, if one keeps doing sin again and again... they are no longer a Christians either seeing they have taken the new man off and have put the old man back on and are walking after the flesh having reaped corruption which is no longer being in right standing with the Lord.
Once cannot abide IN Christ and continue in sin at the same time
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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