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[Anchorite]

Anchorutes ideology is so profound that they have said,no matter what violence threatens themselves or their family,they will not fight back.

Nor will they call 911.They will hold to their views regarding passive inaction and accept whatever violence befalls.

Now you are lying and bearing false witness.

 

[Ziggy]

Economic Revolution:

An economy is a system through which individuals, businesses, and governments produce, distribute, and consume goods and services to meet the needs of a society.​

Definition and Scope​

An economy encompasses all activities related to the production, distribution, exchange, and consumption of goods and services. It is a social domain that involves human practices, transactions, and management of resources, including labor, capital, and natural resources, influenced by culture, technology, laws, and political structures

Act 4:34
Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35
And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

And this began a system of Hierarchy.
a system in which members of an organization or society are ranked according to relative status or authority:

(the hierarchy)
the clergy of the Catholic Church or of an episcopal Church:
"the Roman Catholic hierarchy in Romania"

Well, we see where that got us.
The haves and the have nots.

Which led to Monarchy.

a form of government with a monarch at the head.
(the monarchy)
the monarch and royal family of a country:
"the monarchy is the focus of loyalty and service"

Again, the haves and the have nots.

What is the original economic system of America?

The United States was founded on a free-market capitalist system with a mixed approach that combined economic freedom with limited government regulation.​

After independence in 1776, the United States began establishing a structured economy that emphasized private property, entrepreneurship, and market competition . The Industrial Revolution further accelerated economic growth, with innovations in manufacturing, transportation, and finance fostering a capitalist framework. Early American inventors and entrepreneurs, such as Eli Whitney and Samuel Slater, exemplified the system’s reliance on private initiative and technological innovation .

On which system did Paul operate?

1Co 16:1
Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
1Co 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
1Co 16:3
And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
1Co 16:4
And if it be meet that I go also, they shall go with me.

The system we live under at this time is one of Give all you have to the Government and they will distribute as they see fit.

This is Socialism which puts the power of the purse in the hands of a few.
Capitalism puts the power of the purse in the hands who earn it and give through charity to those who have need,

The current system we live too away the ability to be charitable, making it impossible to give what we do not have.

In the case of Paul, it is God who prospered the people who were then able and willing to give to those in need.

What does it mean to prosper?
succeed in material terms; be financially successful:

make successful:
"God has wonderfully prospered this nation"

How can you give, what you do not have?

Jas 2:15
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

The Love of money is the root of all evil.
And if you love it, you won't want to share it. You won't want to give, you will covet it.
And yet without money we have no means to be charitable.

Luk 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Reciprocal.

Mat 25:40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

2Co 9:7
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Economic Revolution.

You work, you earn, you supply, you give.
We don't need a Heirarchy or a Monarchy or an Overgrown Government to do that for us.
That is what Capitalism is all about.

Capitalism is an economic system in which private individuals or businesses own capital goods.

The problem with the young rich man was he didn't want to share.

We have to fix that, and not through government taxation or mandates or government social programs.
We have to do it in our own communities, first. And then as Paul did, gather together to send to those who are farther away if possible.

Economic Revolution.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Ziggy]

I enjoyed that so much that I'm going to post it again:

Hugs

 

[Gray_Joy]

I enjoyed that so much that I'm going to post it again:

Hugs

Me too:
About that YouTube video producer.

Aliunde is known for its ultra-left-wing content, focusing on socialist and anti-capitalist themes, often critiquing mainstream political narratives. The channel is part of a broader movement on YouTube that seeks to counteract right-wing ideologies.

Overview of Aliunde​

Aliunde is recognized for its ultra-left-wing content, which emphasizes socialist and anti-capitalist themes. The channel actively critiques mainstream political narratives, positioning itself as part of a broader movement on YouTube aimed at countering right-wing ideologies.

Content Focus​

Key Themes​

• Socialism: Advocates for socialist principles and critiques capitalism.
• Anti-Capitalism: Challenges capitalist narratives and structures.
• Political Critique: Engages with and critiques mainstream political discourse.

Context in YouTube Landscape​

Positioning Against Right-Wing Ideologies​

Aliunde is part of a growing cohort of left-wing channels that seek to provide alternative viewpoints to the prevalent right-wing content on platforms like YouTube. This movement, often referred to as "BreadTube" or "LeftTube," includes various creators who address political issues, cultural commentary, and social justice topics.

Comparison with Other Channels​

Channel Name	Political Orientation	Key Focus Areas
Aliunde	Ultra-Left	Socialism, Anti-Capitalism, Political Critique
ContraPoints	Left	Cultural Commentary, Philosophy, Social Issues
omberguy	Left	Political Commentary, Media Critique

Aliunde's approach is characterized by its commitment to leftist principles, making it a significant player in the ongoing discourse surrounding political ideologies on YouTube.
inthesetimes.com intpolicydigest.org

 

[Ziggy]

So what your saying is you found that video to be Ultra- Left-Wing

I would probably fact check the fact checkers.
Just saying.

So this is what Aliunde's wrote in his description below the video, 17 years ago. Seventeen!! LOL
Do you think maybe his views have changed since then?


79,473 views Sep 12, 2009

There is a reason we refer to "the rule of law and not of men" when discussing the American political system. It is because a republican form of government seeks to restrain the unbridled and quixotic passions of pure democracy, rather than yield to them. It also rejects the desire of the majority in favor of individual rights. Democracy seeks to assert the right of the group, but so does a mob with a hangman's noose. There's also a reason why lady justice is blindfolded: She is not to see the individuals, interest groups, race, or any characteristic at all of those that plead before her--her proper concern is not directed towards them; her care is to decide the law. It's also why the question of justice as presented before judges is not one of mercy (that belongs in the will of the people as expressed through their representatives in law), but one of exacting only what the law requires be exacted. The rule of law is all about the removal of arbitrary will from the governance of society. A judge who seeks to apply his own notions of justice and mercy (as opposed to those notions being defined by the people through law) is a judge who seeks to impose arbitrary will in opposition to the rule of law. And it is arbitrary will imposed by one group over others, no matter how "well meaning," that is the very definition of tyranny.

 

[Ziggy]

LOL
Check out the links

 

[Wrangler]

Were the first century Christians patriotic?

Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s = Patriotic

 

[Wrangler]

In the age of grace, we would rather die as a martyr, than kill as a warrior.

I think you are a troll in this thread. Odoro Amoris. Dual or overlapping responsibilities. Yes, I am a son but also a husband. A warrior for Christ AND Caesar.

To paraphrase Patton, I don’t want you to die for your God and country, make the other bastard die for his God and country.

 

[Wrangler]

Blessed be the peacemakers.

Doesn’t mean it’s always time for peace.

 

[Ziggy]

Time for a re-alignment

 

[Gray_Joy]

Doesn’t mean it’s always time for peace.

As God proved himself in the Old Testimony regarding his time and authority on Earth.

And lest we forget his foretelling of what he has in store for the world during the end times.

 

[Wrangler]

God has provided authorities

Yes, we are the authorities. 1 Corinthians 6:3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

 

[Wrangler]

Nationalism pits one nation against another nation.

Not quite. Nationalism is just an application of Odo amoris.

 

[Gray_Joy]

I think you are a troll in this thread. Odoro Amoris. Dual or overlapping responsibilities. Yes, I am a son but also a husband. A warrior for Christ AND Caesar.

To paraphrase Patton, I don’t want you to die for your God and country, make the other bastard die for his God and country.

I wanted to be exact on that matter of history and General Patton.

What he actually said:
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
1944 General George S Patton ,to the troops of the 3rd Army just before the allied invasion of Normandy, or, D-Day.

And,Amen.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Not quite. Nationalism is just an application of Odo amoris.

True. And, there's nothing the matter with Nationalism. It's Patriotism.

 

[Wrangler]

True. And, there's nothing the matter with Nationalism. It's Patriotism.

Exactly. It’s all about righteous priorities: God, spouse, children, parents, larger family, friends, neighbor, city, State, country, region, world in ever wider circles.

A person on the other side of the world is not my enemy. Our Lord used the example of giving a snake to our children. Our child is our priority over a person on the other side of the world.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Wrangler]

I’m proud that America is a Christian nation. The Founding Father‘s referenced the Bible more than any other source in forming our government as a republic.

John Adam’s said the federal government was made for a moral people and is wholly inadequate for any other kind of people. Washington gave the first proclamation of thanksgiving for the many manifest blessings of the God of the universe and credited divine Providence as being everywhere in establishing our Liberty over oppression.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Exactly. It’s all about righteous priorities: God, spouse, children, parents, larger family, friends, neighbor, city, State, country, region, world in ever wider circles.

A person on the other side of the world is not my enemy. Our Lord used the example of giving a snake to our children.

Our child is our priority over a person on the other side of the world.

True. However,those people and their governor's are why the majority suffer and die.

Poverty killing those in parts of Africa is evil and inexcusable. But,their leaders are fat and sated and rich. And protected by armies.

Money laundering has always been behind Western governments "international aid" policies and practices.

In America we often forget our tax payer dollars went to fund the enemies of Israel right there in their own backyard!

Remember the January 2024 scandal surrounding UNRWA?

We are suppose to think Congress put on a ban so such abuse,blamed on a few employees in UNRWA diverting aid monies to Hamas so to fund the October 7th 2023 rocket attack against Israel,has put a stop to such abuses?

No. The expose' just meant those behind the effort needed to regroup and start anew. Which is why the Ultra Left anti-Israel members of our Congress refuse to designate Hamas and others as a terror organization.

It's infuriating! We the working class have huge chunks of our earned wages taken from us after a week or two weeks work,by a government whose members in highest office,who ruled our living by law,are filthy rich.


Which is why I stayed out of current events discussions board here. It is infuriating we are led to believe it is what it is because we voted for this. These people empowered over us.

And as a solution,were told to go forth and vote again!

How's that working out so far? "Career Politician". Should not ever be an identity for an elected government representative.
Not when there's a term limit set for the figurehead leader of the country. But not term limits set for those who created the rules of law that run the country!
For term limits to apply,those self same law makers have to make a majority decision to amend our Constitution so to limit their power by limiting their time in office through the establishment of term limits!

There are voters who say to themselves, our vote limits their term in office.

Mitch McConnell is still there! Mitch McConnell!
Remember this? Watch it a second time. Notice those who are around him.

He's 84 or 85. And supposedly won't run again this year. Nancy Pelosi is supposedly not going to run again either.

We're suppose to believe we voters think those depleted intellects,among the many there in Congress, are and have remained the best among us to vote for? When candidates are supposed to be drawn from the citizen pool every election so to challenge incumbents?

Representative Cortez was a barely competent bartender at Flats Fix restaurant in Union Square.

Now, she's in our Congress and is a multi- millionaire! When her Congressional annual salary is at $174,000.00?

What's she do since entering office in 2019 so to be a millionaire today? Coupons and savings?

Meanwhile, I know those who have worked all their adult lives. They have to beg for their Social Security and public assistance.

Don't fool yourself. We are slaves. Wage slaves,thanks to property tax and the indentured servitude applied through the 16th amendment. You'd think that would have been repealed by the 13th,but no!

This is why I stay away from CE. I get mad thinking of how much wool is pulled over the eyes of Americans.

There's a reason for the sheep metaphor.

I've always been fond of the Wolves model myself. Talk about Patriotism!

*steps off soap box,tossed it onto the bonfire.