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I may not always answer and sometimes when I do the answer may be wrong, but it is usually based on scripture, at least, as I have understood it. If I had to I am sure I could use another English translation, but it would be an uncomfortable thing for me after so many years.
Backslid is one of those words everyone where I have attended services uses. They had and have a fixed idea of what they meant, which may often have little connection with what I have at times understood in scripture. But, this is the way many people understand [misunderstand?] and serve God. Perhaps in some cases I should write god [no capitalization].
You ask a very good question. My answer could be simple or a long book. I bother to answer because sometimes I really think that someone might benefit, although often it is not the person to whom I am directly responding. If I believe God has given me an answer and I do not share, might it not be like the man in scripture posted as a watchman who doesn't bother to warn anyone when he sees that enemy on the approach?bbyrd009 said:why bother, may as well try to convince a little kid there is no santa claus the day before Xmas lol. yes, Xmas.
Yes, the bad pastors may draw the bad congregations, but the opposite is also true. The question comes back to which came first, the chicken or the egg.
It's like most of the funeral services I have attended where so many lies are told or, at least inferred, to tickle someone's ears or to apparently not add to the pain of losing someone close.
I see two possible good endings for those proclaiming the OSAS doctrines. One is the person who really does trust God and works with all that he has to do things as God wants to do them including asking God for help. He is doing it right, but doesn't realize it and could not explain to someone.i guess when you take them by the hand instead of trying to gouge their eyes out and replace them, that clears up
but i have no idea what that means though lol
What you have said is precisely why God looks at the heart rather than simply at the superficial doctrines that a person holds. Believing some seemingly very good things can really be worthless if they are believed for the wrong reasons. Do we know anyone who does that? Do I do that even in a measure?
The sins not committed in ignorance under OT law [Moses] were a basis for kicking a person out [cutting him off] of his tribe. Many [most?] people today do not even understand how ignorant they are of the things of God. Does He want them to learn and do better?"Does God Create Evil, or Not?"
do we punish little kids for sins committed in ignorance, or not?
What sins are not committed in ignorance?
boy, i would be demanding an answer here myself, if the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it?
ha maybe your are speaking TIC here?
i suggest that they are also worthless even if they are "believed" for the right reasons, once belief is turned into faith, which let's be honest most ppls faith is defined by their beliefs now. "i believe this, so that cannot be true."
Yes, people often do expect an answer, and it may not be surprising how many varieties might be received. I liked yours.
I was just answering off the top of my head. There are some who believe in it that I have seen as being quite close to God. They are saying it that way but... I won't say what I believe about most who grab hold of it and just hang on because they call it the irrevocable ticket home [to Eden?]
I hear you loud and clear. Fortunately for all parties I am not the one who makes the judgement.
ya, nice. There is a sense in which i have to agree that once you are saved, you are always saved, but the application leaves more or less everything to be desired imo. When it gets turned into "i have completed the salvation checklist, therefore i am saved, and once-saved-always-saved," which is what i usually hear, then i mean yikes already
We, you and I, may well be finally saved, but we do not say it because we have understood a few problems in even confessing it too definitely without more definite knowledge. I know that in my own history I have moved both up toward and down away from God more than once. I will not presume that I will go down again. I may not and I certainly at this moment do not intend to... If I never stop trusting God then I will not. The question I might ask of myself is: will I never again have any serious doubts about the ways of God?
once someone makes it through...a big stretch of desert, spiritually speaking, after having sought God, and then comes back to seeking afterward, the worst is kind of over, seems like? Now, you might figuratively or even literally get boiled in oil after that, but at that point it won't be the deal it would have been before.
Amen to that! That is called growth and it is, I believe, absolutely essential for as long as God still has allowed us time in which to do it. How long did Job growing God prior to the time of the Book of Job so the opening line could call him perfect? But Job had time and God has something more in mind for Job and read on after Job 1:1.
