Paul's Gospel According to Jesus Christ

[Robert Pate]

"But I certify you brethren, that the Gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by revelation of Jesus Christ" Galatians 1:11-12.

Many professing Christians believe that Paul was a fraud. They believe this because Paul taught that the law had been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Paul said, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" Romans 10:4. This is a tough pill to swallow for those that believe they can be justified by the works of the law. When Jesus died on the cross, that was the end of the Old Covenant the law and the Jewish religion, Hebrews 8:13.

What was Paul's Gospel? The Gospel that Paul received from Jesus is the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. If you don't believe that Jesus justifies ungodly lost sinners and reconciles them unto God, then you don't believe the Gospel. Some find it offensive that Jesus would justify ungodly sinners. If Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, then justifying ungodly sinners is not impossible for him to do.

Paul's Gospel is a past historical event, never to happen again. Paul said, "The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes" Romans 1:16. To everyone that believes the Gospel. The moment that one believes the Gospel they are justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30, and now stand in God's Holy Court as perfect and complete in Christ, Colossians, 2:14. Nothing, absolutely nothing is required but faith. Salvation is by faith alone, because it is by Christ alone.

Paul earned his title as an apostle of Jesus Christ. Of all the apostles Paul suffered more persecution than any of them. Everywhere that Paul went the Judaizers followed him and persecuted him, once leaving him for dead. 2 Corinthians 11:24-33. It makes me very sad when I hear professing Christians say bad things about Paul.

 

[Godslittleservant]

Good you took out the need to repent and confess Christ as Lord that is interesting dogma for sure

 

[Robert Pate]

Good you took out the need to repent and confess Christ as Lord that is interesting dogma for sure

All that are indwelt with the Holy Spirit will repent and confess that Jesus is Lord. Doing that will not earn you any brownie points, because it is a natural thing for a Christian to do.

 

[Godslittleservant]

All that are indwelt with the Holy Spirit will repent and confess that Jesus is Lord. Doing that will not earn you any brownie points, because it is a natural thing for a Christian to do.

How does one bet indwelt according to scripture

 

[Robert Pate]

How does one bet indwelt according to scripture

"This only would I learn of you, did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (Because you did something) or by the hearing of faith?" (Hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (which is the Gospel) Romans 10:17.

 

[mailmandan]

Good you took out the need to repent and confess Christ as Lord that is interesting dogma for sure

Those who believe the gospel have already repented in the process of changing their mind and choosing to believe the gospel. When faith/believing the gospel is mentioned, repentance is implied or assumed. (Acts 11:17,18; 15:7-9; 20:21)

Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically together. (Romans 10:8-10)

1 Corinthians 12:3 - Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except BY the Holy Spirit. There is divine influence or direct operation of the Holy Spirit in the heart of a person when confessing Jesus as Lord. This confession is not just a simple acknowledgment that Jesus is the Lord (even the demons believe that), but is a deep, personal conviction from the heart that Jesus is that person's Lord and Savior.

 

[mailmandan]

"But I certify you brethren, that the Gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by revelation of Jesus Christ" Galatians 1:11-12.

Many professing Christians believe that Paul was a fraud. They believe this because Paul taught that the law had been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Paul said, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" Romans 10:4. This is a tough pill to swallow for those that believe they can be justified by the works of the law. When Jesus died on the cross, that was the end of the Old Covenant the law and the Jewish religion, Hebrews 8:13.

What was Paul's Gospel? The Gospel that Paul received from Jesus is the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. If you don't believe that Jesus justifies ungodly lost sinners and reconciles them unto God, then you don't believe the Gospel. Some find it offensive that Jesus would justify ungodly sinners. If Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, then justifying ungodly sinners is not impossible for him to do.

Paul's Gospel is a past historical event, never to happen again. Paul said, "The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes" Romans 1:16. To everyone that believes the Gospel. The moment that one believes the Gospel they are justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30, and now stand in God's Holy Court as perfect and complete in Christ, Colossians, 2:14. Nothing, absolutely nothing is required but faith. Salvation is by faith alone, because it is by Christ alone.

Paul earned his title as an apostle of Jesus Christ. Of all the apostles Paul suffered more persecution than any of them. Everywhere that Paul went the Judaizers followed him and persecuted him, once leaving him for dead. 2 Corinthians 11:24-33. It makes me very sad when I hear professing Christians say bad things about Paul.

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the AL-sufficient means of our salvation. Jesus and Paul are in agreement.

 

[Robert Pate]

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the AL-sufficient means of our salvation. Jesus and Paul are in agreement.

Right. All that Jesus was and all that Jesus did was for our justification and our salvation. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.

 

[mailmandan]

Right. All that Jesus was and all that Jesus did was for our justification and our salvation. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.

Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 3:24-28; 4:5-6; Philippians 3:9)

 

[Robert Pate]

Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 3:24-28; 4:5-6; Philippians 3:9)

You got it. Our works are tainted with sin.

 

[Godslittleservant]

Those who believe the gospel have already repented in the process of changing their mind and choosing to believe the gospel. When faith/believing the gospel is mentioned, repentance is implied or assumed. (Acts 11:17,18; 15:7-9; 20:21)

Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically together. (Romans 10:8-10)

1 Corinthians 12:3 - Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except BY the Holy Spirit. There is divine influence or direct operation of the Holy Spirit in the heart of a person when confessing Jesus as Lord. This confession is not just a simple acknowledgment that Jesus is the Lord (even the demons believe that), but is a deep, personal conviction from the heart that Jesus is that person's Lord and Savior.

According to Paul those who believe the gospel have already repented and was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 19:1-5)
So why do we avoid these passages we are are told those who believe and baptized are saved but we can't accept that passage at face value
we are told to repent and be be baptized in the name of Christ for the remission of sin ans we shall receive the indwelling spirit but we can not accept that fact we have to explain the common sense understanding away because it fly in the face of our view so scripture cant mean what is state it has to be rewritten to fit our view or explained differently so it fits.

We read that in baptism is where we enter into the cross ( Romans 6 )but that can not be the one in the name of Jesus Christ it is a different one even though the baptism in Christ name is the only one we are commanded to submit to. The one that Jesus baptizes with ( the one in his name) has no power it is just for show???

Paul says he was baptized to wash away his sin (just as Acts 2:38 says) but we can't accept that we have to change what we think he said to make it fit our understanding.

On and on we go trying to take the biblical meaning of baptism given by the Lord out of its truth and replace it with our lies.

 

[Godslittleservant]

You got it. Our works are tainted with sin.

Why take credit away from God when he tells us what work he is doing through the baptism in Christ name and credit it to works of men?? Read Romans 6 and tell me is that something men can do? Can men transform themselves from dead in sin to alive in Christ?? That work done there is from God and only God but we try to say we love and trust God but can not accept this one fact he is telling us???

 

[mailmandan]

According to Paul those who believe the gospel have already repented and was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 19:1-5)

Repent and believe the gospel precede water baptism. (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:7-9) You reverse the scriptural order of repent and believe/believe the gospel/place faith in Jesus Christ for salvation. (Matthew 21:32; Mark 1:15; 20:21)

In regard to Acts 19:1-5, in verse 2, their answer to Paul's question, “we have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit” demonstrated that they were not yet believers in Jesus Christ unto salvation. Paul further asked, "into what then were you baptized? They said, “into John’s baptism.” Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

When they heard this, they were afterwards baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. There would have been no need to re-baptize them if they had already previously believed the gospel and were saved. These disciples of John needed further instructions to become believers in Christ Jesus for salvation then afterwards, they received the Holy Spirit after Paul laid hands on them (which is the exception, not the rule in every case of conversion, as in Acts 2 and Acts 10).

So why do we avoid these passages we are are told those who believe and baptized are saved but we can't accept that passage at face value
we are told to repent and be be baptized in the name of Christ for the remission of sin ans we shall receive the indwelling spirit but we can not accept that fact we have to explain the common sense understanding away because it fly in the face of our view so scripture cant mean what is state it has to be rewritten to fit our view or explained differently so it fits.

A handful of verses that "on the surface" merely appear to teach that we are saved by water baptism do not negate numerous passages of scripture which make it clear that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43-47; 11:17; 13:39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:5-6; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; 15:1-4; Galatians 3:2; 3:26; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9; 2 Timothy 3:15; 1 John 5:13 etc..). Repentance precedes belief/faith so its already implied or assumed.

We read that in baptism is where we enter into the cross ( Romans 6 ) but that can not be the one in the name of Jesus Christ it is a different one even though the baptism in Christ name is the only one we are commanded to submit to. The one that Jesus baptizes with ( the one in his name) has no power it is just for show???

Water baptism is the picture and Spirit baptism is the reality. 1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. This is not water baptism, but Spirit baptism.

At what point are we placed into the body of Christ and added to His church?

Acts 4:4 - However, many of those who heard the word believed; and the number of the men came to be about five thousand.

Acts 5:14 - And believers were increasingly added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women.

Ephesians 1:13 - In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.

Believers are water baptized into Christ in the same sense that the Israelites were baptized into Moses (1 Corinthians 10:2) and there is little dispute that being "baptized into Moses" signified the open allegiance and public identification of the Israelites with Moses as their leader. Moses was formally recognized as the leader of the covenant people. Water baptism signifies our allegiance and public identification with Christ as our Savior, so it would only be in that sense.

Paul says he was baptized to wash away his sin (just as Acts 2:38 says) but we can't accept that we have to change what we think he said to make it fit our understanding.

In regard to Acts 22:16, as Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - baptism here pictures the washing away of sins by the blood of Christ. The language in Acts 22:16 is similar to the statement of Christ when He took the bread and said, "This is my body" (Matthew 26:26). The bread was only the emblem of His body. Baptism is the emblem of the washing away of sins by the blood of Christ. Every time a believer is immersed, he washes away his sins in the same sense Paul did: not literally, but ceremonially, pointing to the blood of Christ by which sins are actually washed away. (1 John 1:7; Revelation 1:5)

Paul had already believed in Christ unto salvation when Ananias came to pray for him to receive his sight (Acts 9:17). It also should be noted that Paul at the time when Ananias prayed for him to receive his sight, he was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17)--this was BEFORE he was water baptized (Acts 9:18). Verse 17 connects his being filled with the Spirit with the receiving of his sight. We know that he received his sight prior to his baptism.

It's interesting that when Paul recounted this event again later in Acts (Acts 26:12-18), he did not mention Ananias or what Ananias said to him at all. Verse 18 again would confirm the idea that Paul received Christ as Savior on the road to Damascus since here Christ is telling Paul he will be a messenger for Him concerning forgiveness of sins for Gentiles as they have faith in Him. It would seem unlikely that Christ would commission Paul if Paul had not yet believed in Him and was still lost in his sins.

Excellent article on Acts 22:16 - Acts 22:16--Baptism Essential for Salvation?

On and on we go trying to take the biblical meaning of baptism given by the Lord out of its truth and replace it with our lies.

Baptism is a symbol of salvation in that it pictures Christ's death, burial and resurrection and our identification with Him in these experiences. In reality, believers are literally saved by what baptism symbolizes--Christ's death, burial and resurrection. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) Baptism would have no meaning without Christ’s death, burial and resurrection, but Christ’s death, burial and resurrection would still have meaning, even if there were no baptism. In other words, Christ’s death, burial and resurrection is the substance and baptism is the symbol/picture. Without the substance there would be no symbol/picture.

 

[Robert Pate]

Why take credit away from God when he tells us what work he is doing through the baptism in Christ name and credit it to works of men?? Read Romans 6 and tell me is that something men can do? Can men transform themselves from dead in sin to alive in Christ?? That work done there is from God and only God but we try to say we love and trust God but can not accept this one fact he is telling us???

Spiritually, we are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.

Physically, we are the chief of sinner, 1 Timothy 1:15.

 

[Behold]

Good you took out the need to repent and confess Christ as Lord that is interesting dogma for sure

You repent of unbelief. "and with the mouth confession is made"....... not that Jesus is Lord, as the "Lordship salvation cult" teaches, but Confessing that Christ is your Savior, = that you have believed.

And that is a public confession.

What is the best way to do that?

One way is to go to the Alter, during an Alter call in front of the Church, because you have trusted in Christ in your heart.

Or...Get water baptized in public., as that is a OBVIOUS public confession that you have BELIEVED on Jesus.

 

[Behold]

How does one bet indwelt according to scripture

Once God forgives all your sin, through the Blood and Death of Jesus...

= God then BIRTH's the spirit of the BELIEVER into God's Spirit by the Holy Spirit.

= BORN.....again......Spiritually.

 

[Behold]

You got it. Our works are tainted with sin.

And after we are saved based on the finished work of JESUS on the Cross, our works are still just works.

What has changed is not our works, but its our born again spiritual relationship with God......= which has began and will never end.

 

[Behold]

According to Paul those who believe the gospel have already repented and was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 19:1-5)
So why do we avoid these passages we are are told those who believe and baptized are saved but we can't accept that passage at face value
we are told to repent and be be baptized in the name of Christ for the remission of sin

Its because millions of water baptized people are in Hell.
Some are going later today, and tonight.

@Godslittleservant ......If you post the rest of your verse, it says and He who BELIEVES NOT = is DAMED.
Notice that there is no WATER, in that part. and that is because it the BELIEVING "by faith", that God accepts as "FAITH (not water) is counted by God as (Christ's) Righteousness.""

Now, if you read this verse.. John 3:36 It will teach you that its the lack of BELIEF that is why God's WRATH stays on you.

Water is irrelevant, regarding salvation, as all that water can do is get your BODY wet... and the sin issue and the faith issue is in your HEART and water can't touch that .. but the BLOOD OF JESUS can... forever.

 

[Behold]

baptism in Christ

Water .....Has no effect on sin. as water can't wash away your sin.

Its just water....

Now the "cult of mary" teaches that water washes sin away and that if there is no water, there is no salvation.
And this CULT of MARY, has theologically poisoned many Protestant denominations with this teaching.

"Born again... By water"..

See that? BORN... again....."By WATER", and that is a lie from the Father of sin, as water does not cause the New Birth, and never will.

 

[Robert Pate]

Water .....Has no effect on sin. as water can't wash away your sin.

Its just water....

Now the "cult of mary" teaches that water washes sin away and that if there is no water, there is no salvation.
And this CULT of MARY, has theologically poisoned many Protestant denominations with this teaching.

"Born again... By water"..

See that? BORN... again....."By WATER", and that is a lie from the Father of sin, as water does not cause the New Birth, and never will.

The only thing that water baptism will do for you is get you wet. Do they believe that getting wet will save them?