People in Hell are happy

[Rockerduck]

I understand, but how can we distinguish and know the word of God?

Muslim believe the Quran is the word of God, even if it's not.

It is difficult to know the truth.

Just pray to Jesus for knowledge to learn more about Him. Jesus will hear you. He will give more to who wants it and takes away those that don't.

 

[Debp]

Jesus-Christ can appear to Muslims through mystical ways, but sometimes He does not want to reveal Himself.

I think when a person is seeking God they will eventually find Him. And we can pray for loved ones to come to know Christ.

I understand, but how can we distinguish and know the word of God?

Muslim believe the Quran is the word of God, even if it's not.

It is difficult to know the truth.

Some Muslims don't really know what the Quran teaches. When they find out, some leave Islam. Others don't want to depart it due to fear.

Even just comparing the life of Jesus Christ and Mohammed, you can see what the truth would be. Jesus Christ was sinless, taught love and forgiveness.... Mohammad led a carnal, violent life and taught others that way of life.

 

[ArkangeMikail]

I think when a person is seeking God they will eventually find Him. And we can pray for loved ones to come to know Christ.



Some Muslims don't really know what the Quran teaches. When they find out, some leave Islam. Others don't want to depart it due to fear.

Even just comparing the life of Jesus Christ and Mohammed, you can see what the truth would be. Jesus Christ was sinless, taught love and forgiveness.... Mohammad led a carnal, violent life and taught others that way of life.

Yes, I also believe God eventually finds people who truly seek Him.

The Quran and the life of Muhammad definitely prove that Islam is a false religion, but most Muslims don't know.
Muslims who know can have a distorted morality and believe that polygamy or cutting hands of thieves are actually good things.

 

[Jack]

I do read the bible, I am reading both Old and New testaments and I am still reading them to finish them, but the Bible is very long and sometimes obscure

Learn the NT first. It's for Christians.

 

[Jack]

I understand, but how can we distinguish and know the word of God?

It's coming to pass right before our eyes. The Bible.

 

[Debp]

Learn the NT first. It's for Christians.

Yes, I definitely agree that this would be best for you @ArkangeMikail

The Gospels are the words and deeds of Jesus Christ. And the remainder of the New Testament gives us instructions about our faith.

 

[Rockerduck]

I view the bible as a living bible. It contains the truth today as it did 2000 yrs. ago. Also, it is supernatural. Many people testify of opening the bible and a verse they needed jumped right out for them. Also, frustrated and angry people have thrown a bible, and it landed on an open page with a verse for them. Many stories like this. I have also bought bibles at thrift stores. It seems to me; nobody throws away the bible. Hebrews 4:12 -For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

 

[quietthinker]

I understand, but how can we distinguish and know the word of God?

Muslim believe the Quran is the word of God, even if it's not.

It is difficult to know the truth.

Jesus is the Word of God. The first chapter of the Gospel of John tells us this.
We are to listen to Jesus....in other words, interpret the rest of the Bible using Jesus as the benchmark. That was the instruction given on the mountain to Peter, James and John (Matthew 17, specifically vs 5)

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

What if God tells satan to hurt Job?

Only those who get God and the devil confused believe God works with satan and told satan to go hurt Job.

I can tell you have been falsely taught concerning Job rather then understanding Job from the view point of the whole counsel of God (gonna have to know and accept the New Covenant which contains greater revelation than the old)

The key to understanding how satan was able to get thru the protective hedge God placed around Job is to understand that Job began to walk in fear and fear is sinful behavior which is giving place to the devil.

Because of Job being in fear, satan had the legal right to attack him.

Consequently today if Christians walk after the flesh (sin) satan has the legal right to attack them

 

[MonoBiblical]

Only those who get God and the devil confused believe God works with satan and told satan to go hurt Job.

I can tell you have been falsely taught concerning Job rather then understanding Job from the view point of the whole counsel of God (gonna have to know and accept the New Covenant which contains greater revelation than the old)

The key to understanding how satan was able to get thru the protective hedge God placed around Job is to understand that Job began to walk in fear and fear is sinful behavior which is giving place to the devil.

Because of Job being in fear, satan had the legal right to attack him.

Consequently today if Christians walk after the flesh (sin) satan has the legal right to attack them

If you say Satan does what God does not intend, you are correct, but you cannot say it isn't God's will or that God is not responsible. Evil is not God's mistake even when Satan does it.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

A mate told me that they have aircond in some parts of Hell nowadays.

 

[Jack]

A mate told me that they have aircond in some parts of Hell nowadays.

Too funny!!!

 

[other one]

Yes, I also believe God eventually finds people who truly seek Him.

The Quran and the life of Muhammad definitely prove that Islam is a false religion, but most Muslims don't know.
Muslims who know can have a distorted morality and believe that polygamy or cutting hands of thieves are actually good things.

We need to understand who God is. Here's something I spent a full year reading through the Bible to try and figure out for myself. It is only the important parts, everything involved no one would want to try and read. I certainly didn't want to write a book about it.

Jesus: The Visible God of the Old Testament and the Conduit of the Father
The Bible presents a fascinating distinction between the Father and the divine figure who interacted with humanity in the Old Testament. Consider Exodus 24:9-11, where Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and seventy elders of Israel ascend and see the God of Israel: "Under His feet was something like a pavement of sapphire stone, clear as the sky itself. And He did not lay His hand on the nobles of Israel; they saw God, and they ate and drank" (KJV, adapted). This is a remarkable encounter—direct, tangible, and unharmed.
Yet, Jesus complicates this picture in John 6:44-46: "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him... Not that any man has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father" (KJV, adapted). If no one has seen the Father except Jesus, who did Moses and the elders see? This suggests the "God of Israel" they encountered wasn’t the Father, but another divine figure—one I believe to be Jesus Himself in His pre-incarnate form.
The Word from the Beginning
John 1:1-10 lays the foundation: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made" (KJV, adapted). This Word, who "became flesh" (John 1:14), is Jesus—existing with the Father from eternity, co-creator of all things, and the light shining into the darkness. The Old Testament saints didn’t know the Father directly; they interfaced with the Word, Jesus, who revealed God to them in a form they could grasp.
Jesus affirms this in John 8:56-58, responding to the Jews: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day; he saw it and was glad... Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" (KJV, adapted). Here, Jesus claims the divine name "I AM" (Exodus 3:14), linking Himself to the God who appeared to Abraham and others. The Israelites saw and knew God through Him—not the Father in His unapproachable essence, but the Word who mediated divine presence.
The Humble Servant of the Father
Philippians 2:5-11 deepens this: "Christ Jesus, being in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness" (KJV, adapted). As the Word, Jesus was deity—yet He didn’t cling to equality with the Father. Instead, He humbled Himself, first as the divine agent in the Old Testament, then as a man, always serving the Father’s will. The Father worked through Him to manifest Himself to humanity, whether as the God of Israel or the crucified Savior.
In John 14:10-11, Jesus explains this unity: "The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own; the Father who dwells in Me does the works" (KJV, adapted). Even in flesh, Jesus remains the conduit of the Father’s power and purpose—a role unchanged from eternity.
Extending the Conduit to Us
This relationship extends beyond Jesus to us. In John 17:20-23, He prays: "I pray... for those who will believe in Me... that they may all be one, just as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be in Us" (KJV, adapted). Through His sacrifice and intercession, Jesus sends the Holy Spirit, connecting us to the Father. As 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 reveals, Jesus reigns until all enemies are subdued, then hands the kingdom to the Father, remaining subject to Him (KJV, adapted). He’s not eternally co-equal in authority but the faithful Son fulfilling the Father’s plan.
One God, Three Persons, One Purpose
1 Corinthians 8:4-6 ties it together: "There is no God but one... For us, there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist" (KJV, adapted). The Father is the source, Jesus the means, and the Holy Spirit the presence indwelling us. You can’t have one without the others—they are distinct yet inseparable, united in thought, purpose, and action.
Redefining "God"
Our confusion stems from the word "god." In Hebrew and Greek, it denotes anything worshipped or wielding control—pagan deities, nature, money, even ourselves. The original texts lack capitalization distinctions; translators capitalize "God" for the Trinity. But for us, "God" is the Father, Son, and Spirit—three entities so intertwined they are one. It’s not a mystery or miracle; it’s a misunderstanding of a word. They operate as one because their will is one, and through Jesus’ work, we’re invited into that unity.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Did you really just call the Bible Satanic?

Report him.

 

[Jack]

Report him.

Nah, that's what's good about this forum. It brings out truth. I only report personal insults. I love preaching Bible doctrine to Bible attackers!

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Nah, that's what's good about this forum. It brings out truth. I only report personal insults. I love preaching Bible doctrine to Bible attackers!

But, what's entertaining for you is damaging to the reputation of the community board.

People Google, "Christian discussion boards", and find this sites URL on the first page of search results.

Imagine! That, is what those searchers read as an example of, Christian.
Because that is what appears on his posts under his name.

You'd think Moderators would read that and step in themselves. In lieu of that, it's up to us . Since you're the one to whom he posted, it's up to you.

They're off the rails in many areas of discussion here.
They need a therapist. Not an audience.
Or , opportunity to continue to sully the image of what it is to be, Christ like.
Which could actually be their agenda.

It's up to you

 

[Jack]

But, what's entertaining for you is damaging to the reputation of the community board.

Defending the Bible is "damaging' this forum???

People Google, "Christian discussion boards", and find this sites URL on the first page of search results.

Imagine! That, is what those searchers read as an example of, Christian.
Because that is what appears on his posts under his name.

You'd think Moderators would read that and step in themselves. In lieu of that, it's up to us . Since you're the one to whom he posted, it's up to you.

So you want me to stop defending the Bible? Ain't gonna happen!

They're off the rails in many areas of discussion here.
They need a therapist. Not an audience.
Or , opportunity to continue to sully the image of what it is to be, Christ like.
Which could actually be their agenda.

It's up to you

No, it's up to YOU. Don't ATTACK Bible defenders! That's a sure road to Hell Fire.

See, I'm pulling people out of the Fire as Jesus commanded!

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Defending the Bible is "damaging' this forum???

So you want me to stop defending the Bible? Ain't gonna happen!

No, it's up to YOU. Don't ATTACK Bible defenders! That's a sure road to Hell Fire.

See, I'm pulling people out of the Fire as Jesus commanded!

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Wow.
Yes,it seems true. You don't actually read what is posted. You're in your own world.

 

[Jack]

Wow.
Yes,it seems true. You don't actually read what is posted. You're in your own world.

Nah, I'm just defending the Bible against ATTACKS by religious people. If you have complaints about what I say quote me instead of just WHINING. It's not that difficult.

 

[Debp]

Yes,it seems true. You don't actually read what is posted. You're in your own world.

@Jack I don't think @ProverbsInPink was referring to you. I haven't reread the last posts today to make sure...but I think she was referring to another member. ProverbsInPink am I correct?

Like ProverbsInPink, I'm also sometimes shocked at what some members say on the forum. There seems to be a lot of strange teachings.