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epostle1

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HE never gave anyone any authorty, especially not your pope, teh history of your church speaks for itself, teh evidence you seek is in teh libraries of teh world , but you arnt inetersted in teh truth becuase it would make your religion obsolete, and you need your religion.

As for Jesus well all men who go to Him are teh body of His church, its not a religion nor a denomination, Of course you could go have that discussion with teh JWs, teh mormans, the SDAs who all make teh same claim as you and like you its all lies.
How many times have you been told by the moderators to stop your senseless Catholic bashing?
 

Mjh29

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How many times have you been told by the moderators to stop your senseless Catholic bashing?
Ok.. could I ask you a question that will probably sound really dumb, but I really am genuinely curious about?
NOT Anything derogatory, I promise.
 

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How many times have you been told by the moderators to stop your senseless Catholic bashing
Waht would you like me to agree with teh devil, would you like me to disagree with Jesus just so I can please you, If you dont like the truth , that is your problem. And may I ask wehn you will stop bashing your friend teh protestants, and when you will start glory fying Jesus instead of your church. Id be happy t leave if asked, Christ or Anti Christ hard decision.
 

Mjh29

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Still waiting.
What is the difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic. I looked it up online, and many sites say many different things, and Im all sorts of confused.
 

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"Roman" Catholic as a blanket term for all Catholics was first used as an insult by the Anglicans in the 16th century. They wanted to distinguish themselves from Rome and keep the name "Catholic".
There are 23 rites and Roman or Latin is just one of them, although it is the largest by population. Latin rite is the same thing as Roman rite. The popular "RCC" notation implies the other 22 rites disappeared and it is inaccurate, not to mention annoying. "CC" is much better. The Melkite Catholics in Syria were the ones being beheaded (among others) by the ISIS, but they are not "Roman Catholics'.
When the apostles brought the Gospel to the major cultural centers of their day the essential elements of religious practice were inculturated into those cultures. This means that the essential elements were clothed in the symbols and trappings of the particular people, so that the rituals conveyed the desired spiritual meaning to that culture. In this way the Church becomes all things to all men that some might be saved (1 Cor. 9:22). Catholic Rites and Churches

The Pope never uses the phrase, unless he is addressing the Catholics in the diocese of Rome, where he functions as a local bishop.

"Roman Catholic" is said to be mentioned in only 2 places in the catechism, but I haven't found it, and I never use the term. I am Catholic. Period. Who happens to be in the Roman or Latin rite by virtue of geography. I can participate in any rite because "Catholic" means universal.

The bottom line is Catholics don't get into scrupulous details over "Roman" Catholic because it is generally accepted. (except me) Most of North America is of the Roman (Latin) rite.
 
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"Roman" Catholic as a blanket term for all Catholics was first used as an insult by the Anglicans in the 16th century. They wanted to distinguish themselves from Rome and keep the name "Catholic".
There are 23 rites and Roman or Latin is just one of them, although it is the largest by population. Latin rite is the same thing as Roman rite. The popular "RCC" notation implies the other 22 rites disappeared and it is inaccurate, not to mention annoying. "CC" is much better. The Melkite Catholics in Syria were the ones being beheaded (among others) by the ISIS, but they are not "Roman Catholics'.
When the apostles brought the Gospel to the major cultural centers of their day the essential elements of religious practice were inculturated into those cultures. This means that the essential elements were clothed in the symbols and trappings of the particular people, so that the rituals conveyed the desired spiritual meaning to that culture. In this way the Church becomes all things to all men that some might be saved (1 Cor. 9:22). Catholic Rites and Churches

The Pope never uses the phrase, unless he is addressing the Catholics in the diocese of Rome, where he functions as a local bishop.

"Roman Catholic" is said to be mentioned in only 2 places in the catechism, but I haven't found it, and I never use the term. I am Catholic. Period. Who happens to be in the Roman or Latin rite by virtue of geography. I can participate in any rite because "Catholic" means universal.

The bottom line is Catholics don't get into scrupulous details over "Roman" Catholic because it is generally accepted. (except me) Most of North America is of the Roman (Latin) rite.
Thanks! Very informative
 

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1Pet 1:3 . . Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his
great mercy we have been born anew to a living hope


OBJECTION: It appears to me that according to Matt 16:16 and Jer 17:13,
God is the living hope rather than resurrection to an immortal body.


RESPONSE: The Hebrew word for "hope" in Jer 17:13 means pretty much
the same as the Greek word for hope in 1Pet 3:15. In other words; neither
language for hope speaks of wishful thinking and/or someone crossing their
fingers and praying for the best while in the back of their mind dreading the
worst.


OBJECTION: According to CCC 1843, Catholics have a hope because it says
"By hope we desire, and with steadfast trust await from God, eternal life and
the graces to merit it."


RESPONSE: CCC 1843 doesn't say by hope we "expect". It says by hope we
"desire". The catechism has to say desire or otherwise it would contradict
Council of Trent Session 6, Chapter 16, Canon16, which reads: If anyone
says that he will for certain, with an absolute and infallible certainty, have
that great gift of perseverance even to the end, unless he shall have learned
this by a special revelation, let him be anathema.

Every conscientious Catholic desires eternal life, but of course none are
permitted to be 100% confident that they'll get it except they know so by a
special revelation.

In contrast to both the Canon and the Catechism; the supreme pope of the
Roman Catholic Church teaches thus:

"You know that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your
fathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the
precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.

. . . He was destined before the foundation of the world but was made
manifest at the end of the times for your sake. Through him you have
confidence in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so
that your faith and hope are in God." (1Pet 1:18-21)

The Greek word for "hope" in that passage is the very same word for hope in
1Pet 3:15. In a nutshell: Catholicism's supreme pope was 100% fully
assured that he had absolutely nothing to fear about the afterlife due to the
ransom that Christ paid to rescue his soul from the consequences of his
futile ways, i.e. any and all conduct that would normally put Peter in
jeopardy of humanity's worst nightmare.

Now if Catholicism's supreme pope was confident that Christ's ransom was
sufficient to spare him the sum of all fears, then all Catholics everywhere
should be 100% fully assured too; but I dare say you may experience
difficulty finding one who is. Hell is in the back of every conscientious
Catholic's mind right along with the very real possibility of their ending up in
that awful place in spite of their being informed that the purpose that Christ
went to the cross was to rescue their souls from that very fate.
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1Pet 1:3 . . Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his
great mercy we have been born anew to a living hope

According to the language and grammar of that passage: Peter, along with
the folk to whom he penned his letter, successfully underwent the birth
about which Jesus spoke at John 3:3-8.


FAQ: How did they do it?

A: Anyone can do this for themselves right now, today, wherever they are
and without the assistance of clergy-- they and Christ one-on-one just as he
was one-on-one with Nicodemus, and one-on-one with the Samaritan
woman in the fourth chapter of John's gospel.

The birth consists of two supernatural components; water and spirit.

According to John 4:10-14, the water component is available simply by
speaking up and requesting it.

According to John 7:37-39, the spirit component is also available simply by
speaking up and requesting it.

In other words; both components are totally free of charge and no strings
attached. The only requirement is thirst. (cf. 1Cor 12:13 and Rev 22:17)

So, here's what you do.

Find a private moment, and in a quiet, audible voice, speak to Christ and
request the water and the spirit.


FAQ: Jesus is way up in heaven and I'm way down here on the ground. How
is he supposed to hear me?


Q: Christ is both human and divine (John 1:1-14). Don't worry, he'll hear
you alright; nothing escapes his notice.
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