Pick a side or lose the country

[Debp]

Instead look at your country and realize......"which of the politicians really will try to take the country away from the pursuit of depraved immorality."

Vote in that direction.

I agree. Too much crazy Woke culture being accepted as normal by the current administration.

 

[Jay Ross]

We have MANY more choices than that! In the 2024 Presidential election, our choice is Demonrat or Republican and there are other parties running as well. And there are "down ballot" choices to make. The ballot in some States could include as much as 15 options to choose from, not just the one you posit.

You do like your False Alternative.

You have just proved the point I was making.

We can choose God's way or Satan's way.

Satan's way is a wide path leading to destruction. It has many choices that you can make like you have suggested and they all lead to your final destruction.

God's way is a narrow path that leads to righteous and His reward.

But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15c.

Whom do the members of this forum choose to serve?

 

[Wrangler]

We can choose God's way or Satan's way.

OMG! Stop making it seem like choosing God’s way necessarily means abdicating your civil responsibility to vote.

 

[Jay Ross]

OMG! Stop making it seem like choosing God’s way necessarily means abdicating your civil responsibility to vote.

That is your take on what I have posted but I never suggested that in any way in my post. Perhaps if you had eyes to see and ears to hear you would know how God requires you to act and vote responsibly. From what some USA citizens have been posting, they have already decided how they will vote and are tending to bag the other candidate from their choice. Not a nice Christian thing to do now in MHO.

Oh well, you will find something else to complain about now I suppose. Me.

 

[Wrangler]

That is your take on what I have posted but I never suggested that in any way in my post.

Yes you have. Just admit it. One can vote AND NOT be in league with Satan.

 

[APAK]

@Jay Ross Jay, I was just wandering about in the outback here and noticed this thread. I have a question, and do not take this personally, in the wrong way, and consider I also took your stance on voting as it related to scripture. How do you reconcile voting by law where if you do not in OZ you face consequences? Do you vote or not then.

Look, if I was your neighbour and an Australian citizen, and paying all my taxes, I would still be having this conversation with you.

Thanks J.

 

[BlessedPeace]

We have MANY more choices than that! In the 2024 Presidential election, our choice is Demonrat or Republican and there are other parties running as well. And there are "down ballot" choices to make. The ballot in some States could include as much as 15 options to choose from, not just the one you posit.

You do like your False Alternative.

Awesome! Please name an elected non-Republican, or non-Democrat President during the 20th of this 21st century.

Looking forward to your list.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Our choice is God or Satan.

What I have posted above is true. I am not complaining as claimed, I am pointing out a global truth.

In the Land down under everyone gets to/must vote on their representative for their electorate, but the elected members get to vote on who will be the Prime Minister of the Government and his leadership depends on whether or not he keeps his party members' happy with his performance.

What I said is applicable to any country where there is a relatively fair system to choose the government we desire.

This is true if we are voting for an elected member of the respective house of government and in the case where there is an elected "president" is also true for the person that will be chosen by the voter anywhere around the world.

What I am hearing from down under, is a few members of this forum, becoming unhappy when non-citizens from the USA express an opinion on a topic that has been generated by one of their fellow countrymen about politics that has little to do with the original intent of this forum when it was set up.

The USA has interfered in the elections of many nations over the years just like other large nations have also done, to control the coloured climate of their dominance within the world.

What the political squabbles on USA politics by members of this board, from the USA, has done to this forum is to lower the focus away from God towards what people can achieve if they sin collectively by acting God like to get the political outcome that they desire. Both sides of the political spectrum within the USA are guilty of this.

What would also show maturity on the part of the USA members is for them to not react when other members from other countries and nations offer up their observations on certain applicable aspects about the USA.

What I post on this forum, I have also said to my federal government member as I educated him on the subjects of Freedom, Liberty and "people's rights." So yes, @Blessed Peace, I do look to our own government in Australia, and I do crap on our way of life here as well.

Sadly, here in Australia, we do get a lot of USA dominate news featured on our nightly new programs, so depending on the "slant" that is broadcast here in Australia, we are not as ignorant about the USA political scene as you are suggesting. Generally, the news we see on the USA is taken directly from your news sources within the USA.

I still stand by what I had originally posted above. We need to choose God and His Ways and let Him take care of the political governance outcomes. The question that should be answered honestly by us all is "Who is responsible for our respective Governance?"

If we know the answer to this question, then perhaps we will all have a better idea of what we should be doing.

As an Australian you can stand wherever you like.

When it comes to America,our governance,government,politics, you have no actual legitimate standing.

Yours is uninformed foreign opinion based on contempt for our people and nation. Look to your own deplorable government. There is plenty to occupy your attention there.

God forbid we ever emulate that.

 

[Jay Ross]

God forbid we ever emulate that.

Sadly, Australians tend to emulate what has happened in the USA. More and more USA companies are buying/taking over Australian companies, and it is very sad because they do not understand the ethos of the people in Australia.

 

[Jay Ross]

@Jay Ross Jay, I was just wandering about in the outback here and noticed this thread. I have a question, and do not take this personally, in the wrong way, and consider I also took your stance on voting as it related to scripture. How do you reconcile voting by law where if you do not in OZ you face consequences? Do you vote or not then.

Look, if I was your neighbour and an Australian citizen, and paying all my taxes, I would still be having this conversation with you.

Thanks J.

Let me answer this way.

Many years ago, I was at Annerley Junction shopping, and I was accosted by the main two party candidates at the same time on the footpath during a State election. After some discussion they both wanted to know who I intended to vote for. I told them that I was going to vote for the candidates who would do the least amount of damage during their term in the State Assembly. This answer pleased them both and they both asked me if I was voting for one of them, to which I replied, "No, one of you would likely win in the polls, and stuff up the state more. I am going to vote in the order of who is most likely not going to get in with you two near the bottom of that order in the order of my understanding of who would do marginally better that the other in not stuffing up the state.

So, for around 50 years I have voted this way. In Australia, sometimes the donkey vote gets up with a large portion of votes, but sadly the donkey never nominates for the election. It could be good if the donkey did.

King David was loved by the people more than they loved God and the traveller was behind this and stole the hearts of the people from God, as the people had entered into idolatrous worship thereby turning away from God.

The same is true today in many nations.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Sadly, Australians tend to emulate what has happened in the USA. More and more USA companies are buying/taking over Australian companies, and it is very sad because they do not understand the ethos of the people in Australia.

That's commerce. It's business as usual.

I'm referring to governance.

 

[Jay Ross]

One can vote AND NOT be in league with Satan.

Perhaps you are getting the message of what I am posting.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Perhaps you are getting the message of what I am posting.

Only relevant if he's Australian.

 

[Jay Ross]

That's commerce. It's business as usual.

I'm referring to governance.

Trends in the USA tend to be followed here in Australia, whether it is religious, political or commerce.

My first sentence in my post stated that. Please use your laughing matter before you respond again with your "hurt" pride.

Sadly, Australians tend to emulate what has happened in the USA.

 

[Jay Ross]

Only relevant if he's Australian.

No, it is relevant for every country that a person may live in, including the USA.

 

[BlessedPeace]

No, it is relevant for every country that a person may live in, including the USA.

If they're a nation who elects their leaders.

 

[Jay Ross]

If they're a nation who elects their leaders.

So, if it is not relevant to the USA, then you are saying that the USA do not elect their leaders.

PS: - May I thank you for helping me get the number of posts that I have posted closer to the 7,000 mark with only another 160 or so to go.

 

[BlessedPeace]

So, if it is not relevant to the USA, then you are saying that the USA do not elect their leaders.

In my view it is impossible to infer I said or implied any such thing.

PS: - May I thank you for helping me get the number of posts that I have posted closer to the 7,000 mark with only another 160 or so to go.

Do you plan on posting that PostScript on every post you make in reply to someone here?

 

[Jay Ross]

In my view it is impossible to infer I said or implied any such thing.


Do you plan on posting that PostScript on every post you make in reply to someone here?

Why not, I am just following your lead. You seem to like commenting on what I post with the same sort of postscript each time.

 

[Debp]

An example of what's going on in our country's schools.

There are also pornographic type books in schools for younger children as well as high school kids. Thankfully some parents including a pastor are complaining about the filth.