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I believe if someone is pro-life, they need to be pro-life about all human life and not just some lives....
Just saying.....
That's not how it works. That's a dog whistle to the left
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I believe if someone is pro-life, they need to be pro-life about all human life and not just some lives....
Just saying.....
That's a different issue. I'm going to have to arrest you for being off-topic. Or sick H2S on you.
Seriously, though, ponder this if you can get your mind around it. Around 60 million babies have been killed due to abortion in the U.S. alone since abortion was made legal. Many in your generation have had their lives snuffed out in the womb. I have a daughter around your age, and she has a hard time talking about it because she thinks of all of her peers who are dead.
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Of course, ALL life matters! Born, unborn, black, white, female, male, even Democrats....And I agree with you, that is not right and shouldn't be allowed.
But all life still matters.
Are you saying I gave them an inch? There are over 600,000 babies murdered....every year in the United States....over 8 million over the last ten years, if that does not equate to the worst holocaust of innocence in history, what does? Now you know how confident I can be and how deceive I can be....But I am not going to pretend I have calculated every possible scenario and every possible religious or non religious view of this.You just the door cracked. Can you imagine being that doctor who kills the baby? Doctors shouldn't play God.
even Democrats....
(Edit: The last part is a joke, okay?)
Are you saying I gave them an inch? There are over 600,000 babies murdered....every year in the United States....over 8 million over the last ten years, if that does not equate to the worst holocaust of innocence in history, what does? Now you know how confident I can be and how deceive I can be....But I am not going to pretend I have calculated every possible scenario and every possible religious or non religious view of this.
There are so many alternatives....babies can be taken mid-term and survive. So the medical situation of the mother can be compensated for. So I don't know any possible scenario that would justify killing a baby, but that does not mean that there are not. Is there an immediate scenario where the mother's health is such that carrying the baby will most definitely cost her, her life? The mom could be the mother of other children, so those children would lose a mom. Some would say, pray about and let God choose. That is a religious choice that I agree with. But should we force that on people? Like I said I am not going to pretend I know, nor would I want to have to make that choice. So like I said, one in million, being the decision of a family under the care of a doctor, in a hospital.
Some religious beliefs do not believe in any contraceptives....I do not agree.
Some religious beliefs do not believe in tying the fallopian tubes ...I do not agree.
Some religious beliefs do not think a woman that is raped and taken to the hospital should abort the pregnancy then....I do not agree.
There is no perfect answer because the world is not perfect.
What I mean is no one from any part of the political spectrum has ever challenged the right to an abortion when a full-term pregnancy threatens the life of the mother. That is a straw man from the Left."Risk to the mother's life" was never on the table (by either party, nor Fetal Rights advocates).
Exactly, rape and incest does not have to always equate to abortion.I'm saying that if you leave the door cracked, it gets flung wide open! This is not an easy issue at all, and my heart goes out to women who are raped. But if all rape victims had their babies killed, some people living today would not be here.
James Robison is one of them. His testimony is amazing! His mom was raped, but she decided to have him even in those impossible conditions. And God has used him to ministers to millions.
What I mean is no one from any part of the political spectrum has ever challenged the right to an abortion when a full-term pregnancy threatens the life of the mother. That is a straw man from the Left.
Those are very rare and cannot be used to justify killing children who pose no such threat.
Abortion during natural delivery makes even less sense.
What about the other part of the Democratic platform?
- Tougher gun laws to keep people safer
- Higher wages to ease the cost of living
- More affordable and accessible healthcare (I heard a few years ago that Obama was a fan of the Australian healthcare system.)
- I believe they also want to help the disadvantaged more.
All those 4 points are to do with loving one another I believe.
One of the main reasons why I wouldn't vote for Trump if I was an American citizen is because he sometimes reminds me of a school bully and I don't like those bullying methods.
What you're describing is socialism. When the government is expected to supply people's most basic needs, they look to government, and government agencies tend to be the least efficient source or way to supply people's needs, especially as you get up to the federal (national) government.
It used to be in the U.S. that people were taught to trust in God for their basic needs. Most people had intact families and attended churches. Nuclear and church families took care of one another. With the breakdown of the family and turning away from God, people have increasingly put their trust in government and have become dependent. But governments are made up of people, and people cannot always be counted on to be there for us.
America's national motto is "In God We Trust" for a reason. The government cannot take the place of God, but people tend to place their trust in the one who supplies their needs. I'm not saying that government should never help people. It would be better for the church to help people and show them the love if Jesus.
Socialism may seem like a good idea, but it always involves a loss of freedom. The more the government supplies people's needs, the more it can exert control over people's lives. I don't know how it is in Australia, but Americans are raised to value our freedoms. At least, my generation was. Around the world, freedom is being lost at an alarming rate! There are few places in the world where people have guaranteed freedoms like we do in America, but we have to be willing to fight for them or lose them.
There is so much more I could say about this, but it's really off-topic. I just wanted to address what you said, because you and I have disagreed over these things before because we see things so differently.
Ya don't like that!Approximately 900,000 Babies Killed in Abortions Every Year. 2,465 Babies Die Every Day
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Approximately 900,000 Babies Killed in Abortions Every Year. 2,465 Babies Die Every Day
Right! You can’t “like” a post saying that so many babies are being murdered.Ya don't like that!
It is missing a comaRight! You can’t “like” a post saying that so many babies are being murdered.
What you're describing is socialism. When the government is expected to supply people's most basic needs, they look to government, and government agencies tend to be the least efficient source or way to supply people's needs, especially as you get up to the federal (national) government.