- Feb 24, 2015
- United States
Funny how you are making like the RCC in ignoring scripture that speaks against your belief. Care to address the scripture?StanJ said:First of all, assertion without corroboration and scripture means nothing to me. Just dogma speak.
And so how do you know you are not doing what you are assessing me as doing to defend the notion that not every believer has the Holy Spirit and that saved believers has to seek a baptism with the Holy Spirit that comes with evidence of tongues? That is dogma speak to me.
You claim Ephesians 4:4-6 and yet fail to see it as tying in with the one hope of our calling. To separate that from the hearing of the gospel is to say that the hearing of the gospel is not the one hope of our calling.There is only ONE baptism of the Holy Spirit, and as we need Him, He refreshes us.
Do feel free to explain how He refreshes us. Are you saying that believers need a continual filling of the Spirit to keep on receiving Him which opposes Matthew 9:17 or are you talking about something else altogether? If not something else, then explain how Matthew 9:17 does not go against your belief because your belief would make you out to be a leaky vessel, and unsecured and thus not sealed.
I dare you to ask members in your church if they believe the same way that you do because I have come across believers that are of your denomenation that believe that the Holy Spirit was filling the saved disciples again and again and again in the Book of Acts.All the accounts in Acts are the same baptism of the Holy Spirit on different people.
Maybe then, the Lord will help you to see my concern from where I am coming from that you cannot read personal experiences into the Book of Acts when the letters to the church plainly teaches what we need to know so we can test the spirits & not fall for them.