Rapture ... soon?

[Dan Clarkston]

A secret 2nd coming for the rapture of the saints

No, it's not an actual "coming" since Jesus won't be setting foot on the earth, those taken will be meeting Jesus in the air.

And it definitely won't be "secret" when a few million people are suddenly missing from the world and in many cases there will be witnesses that will tell others that a person they were with suddenly vanished.

Christ never taught a secret rapture. Neither Did Paul.

It is biblical but you won't be bothered with it.

Those taken will be very thankful they did not believe like you

 

[TribulationSigns]

Of course when Jesus returns it will be for all to see, but nobody knows when. There is a rapture because I've seen it in a vision. My vision aligns with Matthew 24:40-42 and in verse 42 Jesus says "watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come"

What vision are you talking about?

 

[TribulationSigns]

This one is actually fairly spooky.

Trump is scheduled to speak at the UN on Monday morning at about the same time when the new moon is sighted for Feast of Trumpets in Israel. Wouldn't it be wild if Trump talked too long like usual and the Rapture hit right while he was speaking? And he doesn't get to go. It would be bad luck to be up on stage when the Rapture hit. He could blame it on aliens.

Oh brother. Speculations at its best.

 

[Dave Watchman]

This one just came out today. Another guy from South Africa. He's being interviewed by a guy from Amsterdam.

This guy is FREAKING me out. He is jumping around saying it is a MILLION PERCENT fore sure.

Check out the first 10 minutes. This guy is on crystal meth.

 

[Rockerduck]

What vision are you talking about?

It was one of my rapture visions. I saw an individual get taken up into the air. It was very fast; you are there and then not. I saw two people embraced in a slow dance, with arms around each other. Then the man shot up like a rocket, clothes on, the woman still had her arms around him. I'd say faster than the twinkling of an eye.

 

[Scott Downey]

Of course when Jesus returns it will be for all to see, but nobody knows when. There is a rapture because I've seen it in a vision. My vision aligns with Matthew 24:40-42 and in verse 42 Jesus says "watch therefore, for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come"

Nobody knows when? Apparently some say it will happen in a couple of days!

 

[rockytopva]

Rapture.... Next Week? I wish! It would be to me like... Beam me up Jesus!

 

[Triumph1300]

It was one of my rapture visions. I saw an individual get taken up into the air. It was very fast; you are there and then not. I saw two people embraced in a slow dance, with arms around each other. Then the man shot up like a rocket, clothes on, the woman still had her arms around him. I'd say faster than the twinkling of an eye.

Interesting

Rapture.... Next Week?

Some people know more than Jesus himself by the looks of it.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Rapture.... Next Week? I wish! It would be to me like... Beam me up Jesus!

I think it's a 50/50 chance.

Until then I'll be waitin' till the Rapture come. Waitin' till the Rapture come.

 

[TribulationSigns]

It was one of my rapture visions. I saw an individual get taken up into the air. It was very fast; you are there and then not. I saw two people embraced in a slow dance, with arms around each other. Then the man shot up like a rocket, clothes on, the woman still had her arms around him. I'd say faster than the twinkling of an eye

‍‍Face palm.

That is absurd. You had a "rapture vision?" Sorry, it sounds like you are under the strong influence of a religious belief that may subconsciously seek out and interpret information in a way that confirms your existing views. This can lead to misinterpreting normal events, dreams, or internal thoughts as evidence of a looming rapture.

Yes, the rapture will occur, but not when you think it will be. Do not be deceived.

 

[Scott Downey]

Yes, as rapture concept is biblical even though the word is not.
God is not going to tell anyone what day is the rapture.
Anyone saying it will be such and such date, has every time been proven as a lie.
Yet many people fall in love with the lie even though God told them He is not telling anyone that date.
Why do they try to prove God is a liar by doing such a thing? Puffed up by visions where God told them the Day?

Issue with some people is they do not think of the rapture as the return of Christ, they have a view which is outside of the bible, promoted by Scofield and Darby who are the apostles of last days new thinking doctrines, not the historic view of Christianity.

Those 2 guys carry a lot of extra biblical baggage with them.

These kinds of end times doctrines fall away from the faith as doctrines of demons when they escape and go beyond what the bible actually says.

Ephesians 4

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the [e]edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—

 

[HealthyShape]

I think it's a 50/50 chance.

Zero chance. It is a modern invention, nothing from the New Testament text.

It is embarrassing that some Christians think it is possible or even repeat the idea and repost silly videos.

And spreading these lies is not harmless. Many people for example on reddit share they have mental problems because of it, anxieties, fear.

 

[Rockerduck]

‍‍Face palm.

That is absurd. You had a "rapture vision?" Sorry, it sounds like you are under the strong influence of a religious belief that may subconsciously seek out and interpret information in a way that confirms your existing views. This can lead to misinterpreting normal events, dreams, or internal thoughts as evidence of a looming rapture.

Yes, the rapture will occur, but not when you think it will be. Do not be deceived.

You have never had a vision, so you conclude nobody has visions. Pretty closed minded. I'm not deceived; once again, how did you conclude that?

 

[Rockerduck]

Nobody knows when? Apparently some say it will happen in a couple of days!

They are wrong. Basing a decision on a Jewish festival that is part of Mosaic Law, which Jesus did away with, is not what I'd call a probability.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

When Jesus does return, it is with wrath against those who didn't believe the gospel. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9

True. But I was responding to your comment about the last 2000 years, particularly the underlined content:
"I'm not worried about nothing. Jesus did away with the Law of Moses, this includes feasts, Jubilees and sacrifices. When Jesus died on the Cross, the Age of Grace, aka Church age, began. The Age of Grace cannot be mixed with a works-based Mosaic Law."

Christians do live under Grace and not the Law, and Jesus was the final sacrifice. And we faith based religion, not works based. But the Law remains (not as a way to salvation) but as God's perfect standard. It defines what sin is. And as far as feasts go, I know Christians who participate with the Jewish Feasts - nothing wrong with that. Christ fulfilled the Law for us but is not done with the Jews yet.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

When Jesus comes, every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him and they will mourn. Many will be left behind when the Rapture takes place and have to go through the rest of the Great Tribulation, but some will not take the mark of the Beast. Many will certainly see death, but some will be spared.
"Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days." Dan. 12:2
You see, I don't see a 7 year Tribulation, I see 3 1/2 years. I am not an adherent to the 70th week of Daniel view, I think that referred to Jesus 1st Coming only - no Gap.
I am still wrestling with this Pre-Trib prophecy though ... I just don't know. A couple more days. This scheduled Blowing of the 100 shofars simultaneously by 100 priests on The 2nd day of Rosh Hashana will be televised worldwide for the first time ever. To the Jews in Israel, it is a day of celebration - but trumpets were blown also to warn people, to repent, prepare themselves for the Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur and to proclaim the coming of the Messiah, signaling the start of the Day of Judgment and the establishment of God's kingdom on Earth.

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The Day of the Lord​

"Blow the trumpet in Zion,
And sound an alarm in My holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble;
For the day of the Lord is coming,
For it is at hand ..." Joel 2:1-2

I'm still not convinced this is the year. It is no coincidence that the UN is meeting the day before. Who in the mix of many speakers will get up and unite the world leaders during that meeting ? Will the Antichrist be the one? Will he be revealed ... as soon as tomorrow?
Exciting times eh?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Well, 2028 is not that far away. I wonder how you will discard "the prophecy has been fulfilled" claim, after that and what eschatology will you adopt.

I have always taken one day at a time. Tomorrow is promised to no one. So I usually do not look that far down the road. I anticipate Jesus coming soon. If you don't, and He does show up soon how quickly will you discard your view?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

1. If it is about supporting the "next week rapture" then no. Literally 0 chance of it happening.

2. Requiring people to watch something from google share is unusual. People may be more willing to watch something on safe public online platforms like youtube.

You do not have to watch it on your phone or PC, you can watch it on TV, on YouTube.There's no downloading, no risk. But I'm not requiring you to do anything ...

 

[Rockerduck]

True. But I was responding to your comment about the last 2000 years, particularly the underlined content:
"I'm not worried about nothing. Jesus did away with the Law of Moses, this includes feasts, Jubilees and sacrifices. When Jesus died on the Cross, the Age of Grace, aka Church age, began. The Age of Grace cannot be mixed with a works-based Mosaic Law."

Christians do live under Grace and not the Law, and Jesus was the final sacrifice. And we faith based religion, not works based. But the Law remains (not as a way to salvation) but as God's perfect standard. It defines what sin is. And as far as feasts go, I know Christians who participate with the Jewish Feasts - nothing wrong with that. Christ fulfilled the Law for us but is not done with the Jews yet.

When Jesus died on the Cross, and became the sacrificial lamb, and the veil in temple tore in half from top to bottom, this did away with the Jewish Mosaic Law. After Pentecost, and in John 14:6 - Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Now, all people on earth have to go to Jesus for salvation, even Jewish people. There is no short cut to Heaven. Jew's became Christian's at the first and many assimilated into society. Every one who becomes a Christian assimilate into society. God is not with the Jews now. All the Christians in Israel will be saved. Jesus does not pray for the world, John 17-9

 

[Scott Downey]

When Jesus comes, every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him and they will mourn. Many will be left behind when the Rapture takes place and have to go through the rest of the Great Tribulation, but some will not take the mark of the Beast. Many will certainly see death, but some will be spared.
"Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days." Dan. 12:2
You see, I don't see a 7 year Tribulation, I see 3 1/2 years. I am not an adherent to the 70th week of Daniel view, I think that referred to Jesus 1st Coming only - no Gap.
I am still wrestling with this Pre-Trib prophecy though ... I just don't know. A couple more days. This scheduled Blowing of the 100 shofars simultaneously by 100 priests on The 2nd day of Rosh Hashana will be televised worldwide for the first time ever. To the Jews in Israel, it is a day of celebration - but trumpets were blown also to warn people, to repent, prepare themselves for the Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur and to proclaim the coming of the Messiah, signaling the start of the Day of Judgment and the establishment of God's kingdom on Earth.

​

The Day of the Lord​

"Blow the trumpet in Zion,
And sound an alarm in My holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble;
For the day of the Lord is coming,
For it is at hand ..." Joel 2:1-2

I'm still not convinced this is the year. It is no coincidence that the UN is meeting the day before. Who in the mix of many speakers will get up and unite the world leaders during that meeting ? Will the Antichrist be the one? Will he be revealed ... as soon as tomorrow?
Exciting times eh?

Have you seriously missed that when Jesus comes on the clouds of Heaven, He is still seated at the right hand of the POWER?
And that he is not just picking up his people for a ride in the air.

He does this in v7 thru 10

2 Thess 1

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer;

6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you,

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,

8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

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We only get our true rest from tribulation and trials when Christ returns, in effect, the rapture is v7.

I don't know why people ignore this completely. Except that it does not fit into their ideas about the second coming.