Rapture ... soon?

[WPM]

This part of Revelation happens after the thousand years are finished, not at the second coming.

You assume it is. The end can't come at the second coming. Because that's the first time all the Saints are alive again, and they have some function to perform in the judgement process. That's going to take a lot more than an hour or two, or even a couple days.

Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels?​

This, among other things, will necessitate some time. It doesn't take a huge extrapolation what the 1000 years will be for.

Before those people are condemned, the Saints are going to go over all the days of their lives. They going to find out why uncle Bob, and aunt Martha can't come with us.

Feels like I hit a hive of rabid Amils, and now they swarm.

You totally ignored the other Scriptures that corroborate Rev 20 and prove the second coming is the end. You have nothing in response apart from your private interpretation of one chapter in the most symbolic book in the Bible. The rest of Scripture forbids your position.

 

[covenantee]

They weren't the Israel of God, we are. I think.

What??

They were 100%. All the Tribes of Israel. 100% All. 12X12. but not the Israel of God?? How could that be??

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[WPM]

I have been inundated with many Youtube videos about the Rapture happening on Sept. 23-24, 2025. But many of them seemed fake, fabrications generated by AI.
This is popular now, AI generated stories or ads that are very articulate, creative as if written by a Phd in Journalism. Adults and children telling stories of accidents, (NDE's), going to heaven, seeing Jesus and returning to give us a message can't possibly all express themselves like Hemingway with a keen knowledge of the Bible.
AI can develop a story as one prompts it with particular parameters, styles, in line with Biblical truths in such a brilliant way - in seconds - with access to and information sifted from 5 billion books. It is quite amazing. But that is the flaw in it, it is not communicated in a common way.
So after listening to many of these fake AI stories that are usually generated for monetary purposes, which have all taken advantage of this date to attract attention, I just about dismissed the whole idea. Btw, it is the Feast of Trumpets on Tuesday - which many have supposed the last trumpet would be part of.
I woke up this morning and a notion came to me. When did these stories start appearing? Recently, most of them in August and September this year. But where did they get this idea? There must have been an original claim, with a real person talking and giving his account. And I found one story. The difference is, this one is not a near death experience, it was a 2018 Vision by this South African Christian named Joshua.
I don't know at this point if he is the real deal ... but maybe? But his story is interesting, it doesn't seem fabricated, he doesn't sound like a liar. What say you?
Don't mean to freak you out ... I mean I have been talking about this for 25 years and anticipating His return. And so I feel like the boy who cried wolf enough times and after a while, when a wolf really came, nobody would believe him.
Just pray everyday, ask Him to bless your family and keep you safe. Be thankful for what God has given you. He will return soon. ??? Please read 1 Cor. 15:51-55 & 1 Thes. 4:16-17
BTW, this goes against my belief sbout the timing of last trumpet, which I have for years believed it was the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 11:15. Oh well.

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Why have you not publicly repented for promoting this false prophet?

This is exactly what Pretrib produces.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I don't know at this point if he is the real deal ... but maybe? But his story is interesting, it doesn't seem fabricated, he doesn't sound like a liar. What say you?

Why have you not publicly repented for promoting this false prophet?

This is exactly what Pretrib produces.

You seem to be on the case. We're not promoting. We are just asking for opinions, like yours. Everyone has one. Go back and review the OP. Ron's just asking what say you?

It's still an interesting phenomena. People are still waiting to get past the 24th in the Pacific. Hawaii time. Most of the people have thrown in the towel. The guy from the videos insists it's still coming. He says he's true to the vision. He is still a "billion" percent sure of it. It's kind of strange hearing him talk, he's not deterred at all. He says as long as it's the 24th somewhere on earth, we are still in the timeline. They're asking him to call Mike at Medic 4 Christ channel to give him some hope. He's taking his videos down.

I think it's a political science exercise of some kind. It's funny looking at the comment section of some of the people in the last remaining video on Mikes channel. Some of those old ladies are VERY mean spirited. The one told him to take the channel down NOW and delete yourself now. That way you won't come back and change your mind latter after things blow over.

 

[WPM]

You seem to be on the case. We're not promoting. We are just asking for opinions, like yours. Everyone has one. Go back and review the OP. Ron's just asking what say you?

It's still an interesting phenomena. People are still waiting to get past the 24th in the Pacific. Hawaii time. Most of the people have thrown in the towel. The guy from the videos insists it's still coming. He says he's true to the vision. He is still a "billion" percent sure of it. It's kind of strange hearing him talk, he's not deterred at all. He says as long as it's the 24th somewhere on earth, we are still in the timeline. They're asking him to call Mike at Medic 4 Christ channel to give him some hope. He's taking his videos down.

I think it's a political science exercise of some kind. It's funny looking at the comment section of some of the people in the last remaining video on Mikes channel. Some of those old ladies are VERY mean spirited. The one told him to take the channel down NOW and delete yourself now. That way you won't come back and change your mind latter after things blow over.

You really don't get it do you? We're talking about a false prophet that is misleading countless people into believing something that is a lie of the devil. How can you even countenance it? Everyone knows it is wrong. Every discerning believer knows this is a joke. This is for the gullible. It is so wrong. It is a deceiver at work. It is undermining the truth of God in Scripture. Are you going to repent when this is exposed as a fabricated religious lie? You have been cheering it on.

This thread should've been banned immediately when it was started. Most Christian sites would've done that. It brings shame on the Gospel.

 

[Dave Watchman]

You really don't get it do you? We're talking about a false prophet that is misleading countless people into believing something that is a lie of the devil. Why do you even countenances? Everyone knows it is wrong. This is for the gullible. It is so wrong. It is a deceiver at work. It is undermining the truth of God in Scripture. Are you going to repent when this is exposed as a fabricated religious lie? You have been cheering it on.

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions. I watched his videos closely because I was trying to catch him doing something wrong, or identifying inconsistencies in his testimony. He has convinced millions of people around the world since July. He isn't selling books, he's not making money, his cell phone is junk. I don't think he is a grifter. I believe he loves the Lord. But he may be a schizophrenic who loves the Lord. That remains to be seen. I'm not a psychologist.

This thread should've been banned immediately when it was started. Most Christian sites would've done that. It brings shame on the Gospel.

It's not that bad. We've been here before and done this. It goes with the territory Charlie Brown.

Who will be the next contestant in that Great Pumpkin patch.

 

[IndianaRob]

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions. I watched his videos closely because I was trying to catch him doing something wrong, or identifying inconsistencies in his testimony. He has convinced millions of people around the world since July. He isn't selling books, he's not making money, his cell phone is junk. I don't think he is a grifter. I believe he loves the Lord. But he may be a schizophrenic who loves the Lord. That remains to be seen. I'm not a psychologist.

It's not that bad. We've been here before and done this. It goes with the territory Charlie Brown.

Who will be the next contestant in that Great Pumpkin patch.

Did the rapture guy have anything to say when the date came and went?

 

[Scott Downey]

Did the rapture guy have anything to say when the date came and went?

Mabe he is setting a new date!
Be assured they will start a new thread on it too.

 

[Scott Downey]

You really don't get it do you? We're talking about a false prophet that is misleading countless people into believing something that is a lie of the devil. How can you even countenance it? Everyone knows it is wrong. Every discerning believer knows this is a joke. This is for the gullible. It is so wrong. It is a deceiver at work. It is undermining the truth of God in Scripture. Are you going to repent when this is exposed as a fabricated religious lie? You have been cheering it on.

This thread should've been banned immediately when it was started. Most Christian sites would've done that. It brings shame on the Gospel.

They never do seem to get it.
Then when you tell them the truth, they can get pretty mad.
And they squirm the scriptures into something different, like saying we can know the date of the rapture, but we can't know the date of the new heavens and new earth appearing.

 

[WPM]

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions. I watched his videos closely because I was trying to catch him doing something wrong, or identifying inconsistencies in his testimony. He has convinced millions of people around the world since July. He isn't selling books, he's not making money, his cell phone is junk. I don't think he is a grifter. I believe he loves the Lord. But he may be a schizophrenic who loves the Lord. That remains to be seen. I'm not a psychologist.

It's not that bad. We've been here before and done this. It goes with the territory Charlie Brown.

Who will be the next contestant in that Great Pumpkin patch.

Play down the nonsense, confusion and false prophecy all you want but this is exactly why the world laughs at us. The gullible and the ignorant get taken in by this deceit. Those who promote it here and there never take ownership of their part in it. They wash their hands like Pilate. They spread the lies and forget we remember who they are.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Did the rapture guy have anything to say when the date came and went?

He will tomorrow when all jurisdictions are living in the 25th. Then he's going to have some 'splainin' to do. But today at noon, he seemed as bewildered as the platforms which were trying to understand him were.

 

[WPM]

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions. I watched his videos closely because I was trying to catch him doing something wrong, or identifying inconsistencies in his testimony. He has convinced millions of people around the world since July. He isn't selling books, he's not making money, his cell phone is junk. I don't think he is a grifter. I believe he loves the Lord. But he may be a schizophrenic who loves the Lord. That remains to be seen. I'm not a psychologist.

It's not that bad. We've been here before and done this. It goes with the territory Charlie Brown.

Who will be the next contestant in that Great Pumpkin patch.

The only good thing about this is: it pushes more people away from the false teaching of Pretrib and into the camp of Amil truth. This is only 1 of 100 reasons why Pretrib is dying.

 

[TribulationSigns]

He never claimed to be a prophet. He said he had visions.

Serious??

If he claim to have vision that ended up as false, it comes from the devil.

It is all about the illusion of false visions, revelations, signs and wonders. He had a FALSE vision (or he made it up) so he is indeed false prophet when the Lord did NOT say!

Quit defending your false prophet.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Play down the nonsense, confusion and false prophecy all you want but this is exactly why the world laughs at us. The gullible and the ignorant get taken in by this deceit. Those who promote it here and there never take ownership of their part in it. They wash their hands like Pilate. They spread the lies and forget we remember who they are.

Spare me the drama. Nobody put their pets to sleep, nobody flushed their fish down the drain. This just goes with the territory of being a Christian.

The only good thing about this is: it pushes more people away from the false teaching of Pretrib and into the camp of Amil truth. This is only 1 of 100 reasons why Pretrib is dying.

Then why aren't you more happy about this old boy. Why the sour cornflakes? By the weekend you can resume your fight with the opposing theologies. Noisome gongs and clanging bells and the like.

 

[IndianaRob]

He will tomorrow when all jurisdictions are living in the 25th. Then he's going to have some 'splainin' to do. But today at noon, he seemed as bewildered as the platforms which were trying to understand him were.

I hope he doesn’t take it too hard. I know it was a huge disappointment for him and a lot of other people.

 

[WPM]

Spare me the drama. Nobody put their pets to sleep, nobody flushed their fish down the drain. This just goes with the territory of being a Christian.

Then why aren't you more happy about this old boy. Why the sour cornflakes? By the weekend you can resume your fight with the opposing theologies. Noisome gongs and clanging bells and the like.

You are promoting a false prophet and you are not convicted? That says it all. No public apologies, no repentance, just a belittling of the damage this false prophet has done. Read Scripture and see how God views these imposters.

 

[Scott Downey]

I hope he doesn’t take it too hard. I know it was a huge disappointment for him and a lot of other people.

They can prescribe some mid altering drugs for that, he needs them.

 

[Scott Downey]

You are promoting a false prophet and you are not convicted? That says it all. No public apologies, no repentance, just a belittling of the damage this false prophet has done. Read Scripture and see how God views these imposters.

He does not think it's wrong or bad. In his sphere it comes with the territory.

 

[IndianaRob]

They can prescribe some mid altering drugs for that, he needs them.

It just goes to show that knowing you’re right doesn’t make you right.

 

[WPM]

He does not think it's wrong or bad. In his sphere it comes with the territory.

You are right. Only the gullible will buy into this foolishness.