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Real Mark Of The Beast

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    The Real Mark of The BeastAlmost everyone whether christain or not has heard of this "Mark of the Beast" in book of Revelation(rev.20:4)but what is this Mark?? That is the question everyone wants to know.The first I ever heard of this Mark was as a kid somtime in the 1960's and the most common belief at the time was that it was a number that would be tattooed on your right hand or your forehead.With time this changed, by the 1980's the most common conception was that it would be a bar code tattoo.Then came tecnology advances and people began to belive theMark would be some kind of ID card.Now most people think it is a computer chip embeded in the right hand or forehead.At this rate the next concenses will be that the Mark is your cloned self with a number on its hand or forehead so you can reconize it from the real you (just kidding), but you can see my point.So what is this Mark of the Beast and why will it be in your right hand or forehead.First, lets take the word "MARK" - meaning: to brand, stamp, (str.#5480) to put this in simple english terms, you brand somthing to show ownership, or you claim ownership of a thing or idea by placing a MARK on it that represents an extension of self. For example, "X" could symbolize your name, the same as your signature, which you own, so too can an idea or thought can be branded into your memory,another words, MARKED into your mind (made your thought/memory). Now let me see where's our mind or brain located? Oh yeah, IN OUR FOREHEADS.Our MIND IS IN OUR FOREHEAD.Therefore if you are FIRMLY MARKED in your mind, (beleive with your heart) what ever you believe, is MARKED /stamped on your mind or in your forehead. This same train of thought goes also for the work you do with your hands. Wether you make pottery or dig a ditch you own (put a mark) your work. This is why you can choose to sell or trade the work you have done, for profit wether it be money or some other form of gain. In claiming the work done with your hands, however, you also claim the resulting rewards or consequences of that work. For example you can do work for good or for evil, and each will have different reward, but you own the final consequences of that work.So to summerize what I'm saying here; if you Follow Gods Laws, and if you know God in your heart and mind (forehead), know his love for you, know he sacrificed his Son, "Christ", for you and do good works with YOU HANDS, you have the "Mark of God" upon you.If you do not know God, or follow his laws, if you do not believe in his love and sacrifices and do evil works, you are in danger of having the "Mark of beast " upon you.So what does the bible say to about this:Revelation 14:1 also speaks of those who have the Father's name and the Name of the Messiah written on their Foreheads. "And I looked, and there before me was the lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his father's name WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEADS." God has given His Mark, representing His Laws and His Sacred Calendar, to be a sign on our Hands and Foreheads. Those who have set themselves apart, sanctified unto the Lord, will have the Name of YHVH and the name of Yeshua ON THEIR FOREHEADS Revelation 22:4 says that God's servants will have His NAME ON THEIR FOREHEADSRevelation 7:3 Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the Foreheads of the servants of our God."Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] Mark upon their Foreheads, or in their Hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Hebrews 8:10: "I will put my laws in their minds, and write them on their hearts."Now that we have established this, the obvious question is, Who is the Beast? Most people are familiar with,Revelation 13:16: "He forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his hand or on his forehead..." Could this be a coincidence? No.If God's mark is his name and his laws, then the mark of the beast must be a counterfeit of what God has given. Just as God's Mark represents His Name, and his nature so will the Mark of the beast represent his name and his nature. Revelation 14:8 & 11"Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries... There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name." (Satan the Beast) The scriptures tell us that the beast, will oppose God's people in the last days, but God said that His `Seal'(mark) represented the laws and his name. It is the counterfeit of these which we must reject .So who is the conterfeiter?Satan, is called by many names in the bible (the serpant,Lucifer,morning star,devil) depending on what side of his nature is being represented,but the one constant is that he is opposed/against God , because he was filled with pride and envy,he wants to be God. Satan is the great conterfeiter, Satan's mark is a counterfeit of what God's mark is.To review God Mark, represents His Laws. Therefore Satan's mark represents his laws. . So to believe his (Satans) lies and spead his word (do his work)is the mark of Satan who is the beast, Thus is the Mark of the Beast. The number 666 (some translations have it 616) is a subject in its self, has almost nothing to do with the Mark!!!.The 666 has to do with the events and the times when Satan is on earth and losed (not chained) as he is now. The number is not the Mark. It is only losely associated with the "MARK" in that if you believe Satan lies that he is christ,returned in your thoughts(brain /Forehead) and do his bidding (work) (with your hands) then you have the "MARK OF THE BEAST"kriss
     
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    HI,,,,,The Mark of the Beast or the Chip insertion is to the back of the hand orthe forehead..............Why? Why offer the choice of forehead?Some people don't have hands or arms.........but you must have a head to be here........God Bless...............
     
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    Be careful. kriss does a wonderful job here of summing up what the mark is so I'll just hit the highpoints.You have to go back and look at the Greek (or at least the KJV). Revelation 14:9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,Revelation 20:4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.We can see here that the specifc words used are in/upon for the forehead and in the hand(s). I want you to take a step back for a moment. What's the primary functions of these two areas of your body? The forehead is what covers the brain - which is what thinks. Your hands then perform the action - so they do.What kriss is illustrating by her use of several excellent verses to prove this is that the mark of the beast is anything to do with some cattlebrand-like mark that will mean the difference between you buying bread or not. The mark of the beast is a metaphor for doing the work of the great deceiver (aka the antichrist, aka Satan, etc.). If you receive this mark, this means you have done his work either by your thoughts (perhaps preaching false doctrines) or by your works (perhaps by performing an action that leads away from Christ).The verses about the army of the Lord that have the seal in their foreheads attest to this. If you have the seal of the Truth in your forehead (in other words, if you know the Bible, Christ's teachings, the end times signs, and so forth) you have the seal in your forehead.
     
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    Just what if..........for one moments thought knowing.........we are rolling into a cashless society............ and soon to be implanted with the chip....What if you are wrong.........? What if the chip is tangible?God Bless
     
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    LOVE123Its not what we say that matters its what the Bible,Gods word says that you need to pay attention too.I know you have probably heard many people say many things but on this sight we try our best to stick strickly to what the bible says not what men say God Bless
     
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    Revelation 14:9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,Revelation 20:4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.Just what if..........for one moments thought knowing.........we are rolling into a cashless society............ and soon to be implanted with the chip....What if you are wrong.........? What if the chip is tangible?God BlessLOVE123Its not what we say that matters its what the Bible,Gods word says that you need to pay attention too.I know you have probably heard many people say many things but on this sight......... we try our best to......... stick strickly ......to what the *bible .....says..... ......................*.not what men say God Bless*What kriss ................is illustrating........... by her.............. use of several excellent verses to prove this is that the mark of the beast is anything to do with some cattlebrand-like mark that will mean the difference between you buying bread or not. The mark of ................the beast is a metaphor............. for doing the work of the great deceiver (aka the antichrist, aka Satan, etc.). If you receive this mark, this means you have done his work either by your thoughts (perhaps preaching false doctrines) or by your works (perhaps by performing an action that leads away from Christ).The verses about the army of the Lord that have the seal in their foreheads attest to this. If you have the seal of the Truth in your forehead (in other words, if you know the Bible, Christ's teachings, the end times signs, and so forth) you have the seal in your forehead.Does the Bible say its a metaphor? The Bible says................its a mark........... There is no proof .................it is a metaphor............... God Bless:)
     
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    Just what if..........for one moments thought knowing.........we are rolling into a cashless society............ and soon to be implanted with the chip.... What if you are wrong.........? What if the chip is tangible?
    Well, at the risk of sounding a bit cocky, I am perfectly confident that it won't be such a chip. They key message of Christ and any of the prophecy over the Bible is don't be deceived. For example, all three of the Gospel's accounts of Jesus's teachings speak about deceit. The key here is that the antichrist himself will not be this obvious mr big and mr bad that everyone is looking for.However, playing the what-if game here, if it was a chip then I'm also confident I know the signs that we were given in the Bible in the latter days. If you know these signs then you have no worries. That's something I tell anyone including those whom I disagree with. Know the signs given.
    Does the Bible say its a metaphor? The Bible says................its a mark........... There is no proof .................it is a metaphor...............
    There are metaphors and symbols all in the Bible that don't have a disclaimer pointing out that this statement or object is a metaphor or not. However, I think Revelation 14:1 KJV gives us an idea of what is going on coupled with Revelation 7:2-3 and 9:4.Revelation 7:2-3And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 9:4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.A physical seal means absolutely nothing. The spiritual seal is what counts and that's knowing God's Word. If you know it, then you'll be taken care of because your heart is in the right place.2 Timothy 2:19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
     
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    i say 666 repersents all of man kind so everyone alive has to prove there self to God becuae they have not passed the great test. SO everyone alive except for the two prophets belongs to 666. 666 only comes about when there is a prophet that has been chosen to read from the seven seals. so 666 means that all of man kind is the wicked.The da vinci painting with mary holding jesus and the crowd has an evil look in their eye this painting repersents 666 and all of man is the wicked.
     
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    I'd have to disagree because we have several verses in The Book of Revelation that show that you have to receive the mark.Revelation 14:9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,Not everyone worships the beast; I know I don't and won't. I also know that I am not alone in that statement. That's not to say I consider myself to be perfect or others here on earth to be perfect because that's missing the meaning. All do fall short of the glory of God but when you accept Christ, repent, and learn the Word of God you accept that seal of God in your foreheads and that means the mark of the beast and the best himself have no power over you.Revelation 9:4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.Luke 10:19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
     
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    THE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666(your Quote)-----------------------------------------------------------Just assuming for a moment that you are right (which you are not)and the goverment forces us to get a national ID.card or chip then does that make the goverment the beast,G.Bush Satan??? To beleive this you have to ignore even more bible verses then you are now.Because the beast(who comes at the 6th trump/breaks the 6th seal and pours out the 6th vial,(666)orAnti-christ will create such a delusion, that he is Christ,that God says if hedid not shorten the days even the very elect would be fooled.Well I dont think anybody thinks Bush is Jesus returned.So how does the goverment forced I.D.turn out to be this Mark the condems your soul ???And If you are so convinced this is right tell me where you learned this.have you studied the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent,do you know Hebrew Idioms,do you know the difference between translation and trasliteration,do you know how to rightly divide the word,about the types and layers of teaching in the bible.If not then you are not a biblile scolar so what authority do you base this knowledge on?
     
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    THE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666(your Quote)-----------------------------------------------------------Just assuming for a moment that you are right (which you are not)and the goverment forces us to get a national ID.card or chip then does that make the goverment the beast,G.Bush Satan??? To beleive this you have to ignore even more bible verses then you are now.Because the beast(who comes at the 6th trump/breaks the 6th seal and pours out the 6th vial,(666)orAnti-christ will create such a delusion, that he is Christ,that God says if hedid not shorten the days even the very elect would be fooled.Well I dont think anybody thinks Bush is Jesus returned.So how does the goverment forced I.D.turn out to be this Mark the condems your soul ???And If you are so convinced this is right tell me where you learned this.have you studied the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent,do you know Hebrew Idioms,do you know the difference between translation and trasliteration,do you know how to rightly divide the word,about the types and layers of teaching in the bible.If not then you are not a biblile scolar so what authority do you base this knowledge on?
    THE MARK OF THE BEAST – IS A PHYSICAL MARKING.......666(your Quote)-----------------------------------------------------------Just assuming for a moment that you are right (which you are not)......( Krissys opinion)and the goverment forces us to get a national ID.card or chip then does that make the goverment the beast,G.Bush Satan???NO........... MAN KNOWS WHO THE BEAST WILL BE................ LOOK AT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT..............THIS ID.CARD IS GLOBAL NOT ONLY NATIONAL...WE ARE ROTATING INTO GLOBAL TIMES...........................MEN ARE FAILABLE. Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. To beleive this you have to ignore even more bible verses then you are now.Because the beast(who comes at the 6th trump/breaks the 6th seal and pours out the 6th vial,(666)orAnti-christ will create such a delusion, that he is Christ,that God says if hedid not shorten the days even the very elect would be fooled.ITS WRITTEN.Well I dont think anybody thinks Bush is Jesus returned.So how does the goverment forced I.D.turn out to be this Mark the condems your soul ??? BECOMES A CHIP TO BE IMPLANTED IN ONES SKIN.Revelation 19:20 and the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who did the signs before him, in which he led astray those who did receive the mark of the beast, and those who did bow before his image; living they were cast—the two—to the lake of the fire, that is burning with brimstone; THIS IS THE CONDEMNATION.And If you are so convinced this is right tell me where you learned this.2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyselves approved unto God, have you studied the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent,do you know Hebrew Idioms,do you know the difference between translation and trasliteration,do you know how to rightly divide the word,about the types and layers of teaching in the bible.I AM NO EXPERT..................... the Hebrew,greek,Aramic translations,the septuigent Hebrew Idioms trasliteration,If not then you are not a biblile scolar so what authority do you base this knowledge on?Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.LIVING ON EARTH...... LOOK AT EARTH GLOBALLY..........THINGS ARE HAPPENING.IT IS EDUCATIONAL......TO TAKE ONES HEAD OUT OF THE SAND....
     
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    You are telling me you have an Alliance.....in the Mark of the Beast... As in it’s NOT a tangible mark.............It does not change scripture or the world for you.All I can do is show you.............through scripture.........and current events.I have done all I can...You in the end will map out your own lifes road, and when we stand before Jesus on Judgment Day.............. WE HAVE NO ALLIANCE................WE ALL WILL ...........STAND................ ALONE..................BEFORE JESUS....Are you prepared to stand alone? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     
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    If I might add some things:I have received a word from the Lord concerning this mark___This is the Word of the Lord, If you can hear, then hear.The number of the Beast is the number of a manWhen we are scanned our individuality is to become a number.That number is our individuality. We do not have to given a number, because we already have a number unlike another.The number of the Beast is the number of a man.The scanning of our individuality is our identity and becomes our number.And that number is the number of each man, and will be a number unlike anotherWhen the scan and the number is connected to the Beast it is converted and becomes the number of the Beast. Because the number of the beast within the Beast is the number of the man, for the number of the Beast is the number of a man.____Everyone within greater Christendom believes the mark to be either a physical mark or an implant of some nature. This is part of the strong delusion. It is neither. I can only ask you to believe since this word came to me alone, and I have, so far, found no others who are saying what I am about to say.It is not just the ability to buy and sell, but incorporates everything those who worship the beast do within the beast. The ability to buy and sell is only one part of being bound within the Whore and the Beast and offering alligence to the son of perdition. The Great Whore and Harlot is the anti-Bride. Just as the antichrist is the psuedo messiah, the Whore is the psuedo Bride that is meant to love the world and its ruler. The beast the Whore rides is the government and system of forces of both men and fallen angels that are meant to mimick the true government or order of the Kingdom of God. The fallen ones who were thrown to earth are the powers that give the beast its material power. That America is the greatest power on earth at the moment lends to those who correctly identify her as the dominant force within the structure of the beast the Whore rides at this time. The whore is more than just a religious and capital global force. It also encompasses all of the idolatry that men offer worship to other than the one and only true and living God, and can be found in all things that men desire within the realm of the material. There is much more to it, such as the Dragon destroying the whore, but I don't want to go off on a tangent. The Whore is the realm of men who commit idolatry in this earth, whereas the beast she rides is in the realm of the spiritual and extends to the material as men are controlled or at least encouraged to give themselves over to the powers that give the beast its power. I forget at the moment where in the revelation of Jesus Christ it describes that the beast will rise from the Abyss. Those are the powers that will reveal themselves as the true powers that are at the heart of the beast. They are all servants of the Dragon.Here is a small part of the mark that will cause the identity of those headed towards damnation to be identified with the man of sin. Read the word above again after this. The word forehead is mevtwpon or metopon (3326 the face) which is the space between the eyes or the forehead, meaning the front of the head, in particular the eye area. It derives from the word 3326 Meta, meaning with, after or behind. This is the key. The hand is ceivr or cheir (5494 from the base of with the idea of grasping or from 5490 opening) or if I read this right, an open hand. Re 13:16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, Re 14:9 And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, The actual mark is from the root gravfw or grapho 1. to write, with reference to the contents of the writing a. to express in written characters Now, if I am to read this correctly the number of the beast and the mark of the beast are one and the same. Following is an article from Nov 2005 re: biometrics. When I took programming in school I had to learn how to convert binary to hexedicimal. Hexidecimal is a numerical system based on 16. There are numnerical systems based on 6. You can find this numerical system on the UPC code. All of the product codes are delimted with sixes. Look at any item sold in a store that has the code and you will find the 3 sixes. there are two two long bars at each end of the code and another six separates the two. ACTUAL BAR CODE SCAN(We have dimmed the internal numbers to emphasize the 'bracketing' system) This system is in place and all products are now using it. And for that it will be incorporated for the identifying of those who use this system. This numerical system will be the one used when our individuality is digitized and many will take on the mark and use the number of the beast. Except it won't be a literal mark. Our fingerprints and retina or irises will be the identifier for the converting of our individuality into a number that is the number of a man. Each man and woman who enters the Beast will take the number of the beast as they are identified with the number of a man. This is annother example of how many will be deceived and will not recognize the times in which they find themselves; serving the beast and following the false prophet, bound by their inclusion into the Great Whore Mystery Babylon. You can google biometrics to find further articles and info.[email protected]
     
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    If I might add some things:I have received a word from the Lord concerning this mark___This is the Word of the Lord, If you can hear, then hear.The number of the Beast is the number of a manWhen we are scanned our individuality is to become a number.That number is our individuality. We do not have to given a number, because we already have a number unlike another.The number of the Beast is the number of a man.The scanning of our individuality is our identity and becomes our number.And that number is the number of each man, and will be a number unlike anotherWhen the scan and the number is connected to the Beast it is converted and becomes the number of the Beast. Because the number of the beast within the Beast is the number of the man, for the number of the Beast is the number of a man.____Everyone within greater Christendom believes the mark to be either a physical mark or an implant of some nature. This is part of the strong delusion. It is neither. I can only ask you to believe since this word came to me alone, and I have, so far, found no others who are saying what I am about to say.It is not just the ability to buy and sell, but incorporates everything those who worship the beast do within the beast. The ability to buy and sell is only one part of being bound within the Whore and the Beast and offering alligence to the son of perdition. The Great Whore and Harlot is the anti-Bride. Just as the antichrist is the psuedo messiah, the Whore is the psuedo Bride that is meant to love the world and its ruler. The beast the Whore rides is the government and system of forces of both men and fallen angels that are meant to mimick the true government or order of the Kingdom of God. The fallen ones who were thrown to earth are the powers that give the beast its material power. That America is the greatest power on earth at the moment lends to those who correctly identify her as the dominant force within the structure of the beast the Whore rides at this time. The whore is more than just a religious and capital global force. It also encompasses all of the idolatry that men offer worship to other than the one and only true and living God, and can be found in all things that men desire within the realm of the material. There is much more to it, such as the Dragon destroying the whore, but I don't want to go off on a tangent. The Whore is the realm of men who commit idolatry in this earth, whereas the beast she rides is in the realm of the spiritual and extends to the material as men are controlled or at least encouraged to give themselves over to the powers that give the beast its power. I forget at the moment where in the revelation of Jesus Christ it describes that the beast will rise from the Abyss. Those are the powers that will reveal themselves as the true powers that are at the heart of the beast. They are all servants of the Dragon.Here is a small part of the mark that will cause the identity of those headed towards damnation to be identified with the man of sin. Read the word above again after this. The word forehead is mevtwpon or metopon (3326 the face) which is the space between the eyes or the forehead, meaning the front of the head, in particular the eye area. It derives from the word 3326 Meta, meaning with, after or behind. This is the key. The hand is ceivr or cheir (5494 from the base of with the idea of grasping or from 5490 opening) or if I read this right, an open hand. Re 13:16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, Re 14:9 And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, The actual mark is from the root gravfw or grapho 1. to write, with reference to the contents of the writing a. to express in written characters Now, if I am to read this correctly the number of the beast and the mark of the beast are one and the same. Following is an article from Nov 2005 re: biometrics. When I took programming in school I had to learn how to convert binary to hexedicimal. Hexidecimal is a numerical system based on 16. There are numnerical systems based on 6. You can find this numerical system on the UPC code. All of the product codes are delimted with sixes. Look at any item sold in a store that has the code and you will find the 3 sixes. there are two two long bars at each end of the code and another six separates the two. ACTUAL BAR CODE SCAN(We have dimmed the internal numbers to emphasize the 'bracketing' system) This system is in place and all products are now using it. And for that it will be incorporated for the identifying of those who use this system. This numerical system will be the one used when our individuality is digitized and many will take on the mark and use the number of the beast. Except it won't be a literal mark. Our fingerprints and retina or irises will be the identifier for the converting of our individuality into a number that is the number of a man. Each man and woman who enters the Beast will take the number of the beast as they are identified with the number of a man. This is annother example of how many will be deceived and will not recognize the times in which they find themselves; serving the beast and following the false prophet, bound by their inclusion into the Great Whore Mystery Babylon. You can google biometrics to find further articles and info.[email protected]
    If it were that easy to obtain the Mark of the Beast ................we would all be doomed.For the bar codes have 666 in them...............somewhere............in order to scan.....I also did a study of the bar codes.That would mean each time I make a purchase of any kind I am taking the mark upon myself.....................no ....................thats not it yet................but it is the root of.The 666 will a part of your current S.S number............. the code will ether be first or last or part of................ it will be the mark............mixed with your current worldly identification number.. Each will need to take a step of dedication to.................. it’s not making a daily purchase day as we do...............that puts the mark upon us.This foundation we see now................in the growth of 666 is only the beginning as it grows bigger still..............to engulf each soul on earth, personally.In light of the feelings that play around this issue....................I politely say........I’m sorry................ I disagree.
     
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    Warning!: 666 Is Coming The number "666" is hidden in every UPC bar code! (If you don't believe it, get a bar code and look at ... www.av1611.org/666.html • Cached
     
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    This system is in place and all products are now using it. And for that it will be incorporated for the identifying of those who use this system. This numerical system will be the one used when our individuality is digitized and many will take on the mark and use the number of the beast. Except it won't be a literal mark. Our fingerprints and retina or irises will be the identifier for the converting of our individuality into a number that is the number of a man. Each man and woman who enters the Beast will take the number of the beast as they are identified with the number of a man.
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    If it were that easy to obtain the Mark of the Beast ................we would all be doomed.For the bar codes have 666 in them...............somewhere............in order to scan.....I also did a study of the bar codes.That would mean each time I make a purchase of any kind I am taking the mark upon myself.....................no ....................thats not it yet................but it is the root of.
    We are both saying much the same thing with the exception of the number of the beast. Now the UPC barcode is on product. The product is not the recipient of the number of a man. When we are individualized by the number given to us we enter the system of the beast and the number of each man is the number of the beast. Its all tied together. Read once again what the Lord has commanded me to speak.This is the Word of the Lord, If you can hear, then hear.The number of the Beast is the number of a manWhen we are scanned our individuality is to become a number.That number is our individuality. We do not have to given a number, because we already have a number unlike another.The number of the Beast is the number of a man.The scanning of our individuality is our identity and becomes our number.And that number is the number of each man, and will be a number unlike anotherWhen the scan and the number is connected to the Beast it is converted and becomes the number of the Beast. Because the number of the beast within the Beast is the number of the man, for the number of the Beast is the number of a man.____It is when our individuality is digitized and becomes a binary number we enter the domain of the beast and the man of sin and assume the number of the beast to buy and sell.
     
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    My quoteYour quote:We are both saying much the same thing with the exception of the number of the beast. Now the UPC barcode is on product. The product is not the recipient of the number of a man. When we are individualized by the number given to us we enter the system of the beast and the number of each man is the number of the beast. Its all tied together. Read once again what the Lord has commanded me to speak.This is the Word of the Lord, If you can hear, then hear.The number of the Beast is the number of a manWhen we are scanned our individuality is to become a number.That number is our individuality. We do not have to given a number, because we already have a number unlike another.The number of the Beast is the number of a man.The scanning of our individuality is our identity and becomes our number.And that number is the number of each man, and will be a number unlike anotherWhen the scan and the number is connected to the Beast it is converted and becomes the number of the Beast. Because the number of the beast within the Beast is the number of the man, for the number of the Beast is the number of a man.____It is when our individuality is digitized and becomes a binary number we enter the domain of the beast and the man of sin and assume the number of the beast to buy and sell.
    ARE YOU SAYING THROUGH OUR S.S.# WE WHO BUY AND SELL MAKE UP THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST?
     
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    I'm sorry but your logic doesn't make sense on many levels here. Number one, we seem to agree that the seal of God is not a physical seal. If the same term is used for the seal in the latter days whats to say that they are the same thing; that is, that the seals are both not physical?Number two, Satan is nowhere near as powerful as God, no one should doubt that. However, remember:Revelation 12:4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.His servants are numerous. Satan is much wiser and much more powerful than you give him credit for. We know from Job that he goes to and fro on the earth:Job 1:7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.Then we have this description of Satan from the New Testament:Mark 4:15And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
    SATAN LIKES TO IMITATE GOD................AS HE WILL PERFORM GREAT WONDERS AND MIRACLES..........
    And that is why the people who will wait for this mark will be deceived. This mark of a physical chip will never come. We know from numerous verses in the Bible that Satan's aim is to deceive:2 Thessalonians 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,In other words, he's gonna show up not as some powerful human bent on world domination but as Christ. This is why this idea of a rapture is so dangerous because Satan is coming first as anyone can clearly see from the verse above. Note the use of "coming" (singular) and the key word "after" because Christ is coming after not before without a doubt.
     
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    I'm sorry but your logic doesn't make sense on many levels here. *I happen to see things differently from you.... yes.Number one, we seem to agree that the seal of God is not a physical seal.*Yes agreed. If the same term is used for the seal in the latter days whats to say that they are the same thing; that is, that the seals are both not physical?*Because Satan is not God and his seal is not like Gods seal.Number two, Satan is nowhere near as powerful as God, no one should doubt that. However, remember:Revelation 12:4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.His servants are numerous. Satan is much wiser and much more powerful than you give him credit for. We know from Job that he goes to and fro on the earth:*Yes I am aware.......Job 1:7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.Then we have this description of Satan from the New Testament:Mark 4:15And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.And that is why the people who will wait for this mark will be deceived. Thismark of a physical chip will never come. We know from numerous verses in the Bible that Satan's aim is to deceive:*Ok right here.................this is where we can run amuck. I have questions..Why will people who wait for mark be deceived?.I look for it to unfold................I am Saved and Sealed by the blood of the Lamb....Praise Jesus..Now I look for this to come into play...........The Mark as a physical Chip....Why am I deceived.....?.Please do shed some light on this.2 Thessalonians 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,In other words, he's gonna show up not as some powerful human bent on world domination but as Christ. This is why this idea of a rapture is so dangerous because Satan is coming first as anyone can clearly see from the verse above. Note the use of "coming" (singular) and the key word "after" because Christ is coming after not before without a doubt.*This is another topic and you already know I disagree with that..Post and Pre- trib both stand on scripture............and the supporting .scripture for pre- trib rapture is much stronger and supportive as appose to the few weak verses .............post stand on. .I have posted Two Open Doors Show the Way....... .Ok............so back to the mark...........please do respond........
     
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    .Why will people who wait for mark be deceived?
    Because they will do the work of satan with false doctrines, particularly that of the rapture. Satan is coming first, the Bible is clear on that. He's an angel of light and, as you recognize, he loves to portray himself as Christ because he wants to be worshipped.
    .I look for it to unfold................I am Saved and Sealed by the blood of the Lamb....Praise Jesus.
    Just to be clear, I have no comment on this. I am not here to judge, nor should anyone else be. That's all I have to say there. (I like to try and address all points of a post - just showing I'm not skipping here.)
    .Post and Pre- trib both stand on scripture............and the supporting .scripture for pre- trib rapture is much stronger and supportive as appose to the few weak verses .............post stand on.
    With all due respect, what's your definition on weak?1 Corinthians 15:52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.1 Thessalonians 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:2 Thessalonians 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,I'm not sure weak is the word when the Bible comes out and states it. These can be found in any version of the KJV Bible and are not based on inferences and false hopes.
     
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