Reason for The Crusades explained

[Matthias]

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You’re a man of violence. When is the last time you slapped someone? When is the last time you slaughtered someone?

 

[Matthias]

Never said I prefer it; just accepting of reality.

You aren’t accepting the Messiah’s way of living. You’re accepting and promoting the world’s way of living. You‘re following the example set by the crusaders and the Muslims.

You got to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

Human beings aren’t eggs. Don’t treat them like they are. People who break people will themselves be broken by people.

 

[NayborBear]

Gee! It's a "God Thing" people like you and Anchorlite weren't around during these days:
717: Muslims besiege Constantinople but are repelled.
730: Muslims invade France, only to be stopped by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours.
792: The ruler of Al-Andalus calls for the invasion of France, and Muslim armies are assembled to attack it again, but they are repelled.
848: A third invasion of France occurs, and they are repelled for the third time.
1094: Byzantine emperor Alexios I Komnenos asks Western Christendom for help against Muslim Turkish invasions.

Elstwise? We'd ALL be "Praying to Allah now wouldn't we!"
Because there'd be NO Christians LEFT!

Ya know Wrangler?
These guys remind me of a story:
An atheist professor challenges God to knock him off a chair; a Marine student then knocks him off, saying, “God was busy... so he sent me”.

 

[NayborBear]

You’re a man of violence. When is the last time you slapped someone? When is the last time you slaughtered someone?

An atheist professor challenges God to knock him off a chair; a Marine student then knocks him off, saying, “God was busy... so he sent me”.
Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

 

[Matthias]

Ya know Wrangler?
These guys remind me of a story:
An atheist professor challenges God to knock him off a chair; a Marine student then knocks him off, saying, “God was busy... so he sent me”.

How may people have you treated like the Crusaders treated the Muslims, Jews and Christians they slaughtered?

 

[Matthias]

An atheist professor challenges God to knock him off a chair; a Marine student then knocks him off, saying, “God was busy... so he sent me”.
Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

God didn’t send you to kill your enemies. The marines? They may have.

 

[Wrangler]

Gee! It's a "God Thing" people like you and Anchorlite weren't around during these days:
717: Muslims besiege Constantinople but are repelled.
730: Muslims invade France, only to be stopped by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours.
792: The ruler of Al-Andalus calls for the invasion of France, and Muslim armies are assembled to attack it again, but they are repelled.
848: A third invasion of France occurs, and they are repelled for the third time.
1094: Byzantine emperor Alexios I Komnenos asks Western Christendom for help against Muslim Turkish invasions.

Elstwise? We'd ALL be "Praying to Allah now wouldn't we!"
Because there'd be NO Christians LEFT!

Impressive display of Jihad history against Christendom. I look forward to @Matthias, @Anchorite, and @Lizbeth responding with acknowledgement that after over 500 battles against Christendom, they know there were reasons FOR the Crusades.

 

[Matthias]

Impressive display of Jihad history against Christendom.

Where do you think he got it from? (He got it from me; post #1934.)

I look forward to @Matthias, @Anchorite, and @Lizbeth responding with acknowledgement that after over 500 battles against Christendom, they know there were reasons FOR the Crusades.

I already have.

 

[Wrangler]

Where do you think he got it from? (He got it from me; post #1934.)

Because of this post, I'll take you off my ignore list.

I already have.

No sir, you have not! What you write is NOT acknowledging the reasons FOR the Crusades but more pacifism here:

@Wrangler @Armour of God, I condemn it all; a Muslim Apologist wouldn’t.

"Condemning it all" ≠ Responding with acknowledgement that after over 500 battles against Christendom, they know there were reasons FOR the Crusades.

STEP 1: Condemn Islamic Jihad (which you've done).
STEP 2: Acknowledge that after over 500 battles against Christendom, you know there were reasons FOR the Crusades. (which you have NOT done).
STEP 3: Stop your relentless crusade against the crusaders. (which you have NOT done).
STEP 4: Be appreciative and grateful that the Crusaders saved Christendom. (which you have NOT done).
STEP 5: Stop condemning the Crusaders and the millions of Christians throughout the centuries who did JUSTICE in using force to stop Islamic Jihad. (which you have NOT done).

Constantine marks a shift in Christian history from pacifism to militarism; a confusing of what it means to be a Christian.

No confusion, not one little bit. Growing from a minority to controlling rule of a State to make things the way you want them to be is the most understandable thing in the world.

 

[Wrangler]

You aren’t accepting the Messiah’s way of living.

Wrong. Totally wrong. You are pretending "the Messiah’s way of living" excludes violence. I've been through this list with you many times before and you've acknowledged the Messiah’s way of living ultimately includes violently throwing billions to their death in the Lake of Fire.

Back on my ignore list!

 

[Matthias]

Because of this post, I'll take you off my ignore list.

I was already off your ignore list.

No sir, you have not! What you write is NOT acknowledging the reasons FOR the Crusades but more pacifism here:

I’ve acknowledged the reasons for the Crusades many times, and I’ve acknowledged that others here have too. In fact, I’ve offered more reasons for the Crusades than anyone else posting in this thread has.

"Condemning it all" ≠ Responding with acknowledgement that after over 500 battles against Christendom, they know there were reasons FOR the Crusades.

I condemn the actions of the Muslims and the actions of the Crusaders, as do many other Christians.

STEP 1: Condemn Islamic Jihad (which you've done).

Thank you for acknowledging that I have. Now stop spreading rumors that I’m a Muslim apologist.

STEP 2: Acknowledge that after over 500 battles against Christendom, you know there were reasons FOR the Crusades. (which you have NOT done).

I have.

STEP 3: Stop your relentless crusade against the crusaders. (which you have NOT done).

I’m a minister of the gospel of peace.

STEP 4: Be appreciative and grateful that the Crusaders saved Christendom. (which you have NOT done).

I’m not a Catholic apologist.

STEP 5: Stop condemning the Crusaders and the millions of Christians throughout the centuries who did JUSTICE in using force to stop Islamic Jihad. (which you have NOT done).

They didn’t do justice. They did revenge. See again - or for the first time - my quotations from Christian Jihad.

No confusion, not one little bit. Growing from a minority to controlling rule of a State to make things the way you want them to be is the most understandable thing in the world.

You’re mistaken. Read the history of Christianity before Constantine and read the history of Christianity at the time of and after Constantine.

 

[Matthias]

Wrong. Totally wrong.

Followers of Jesus slaughtering Muslims, Jews, and Christians (and / or other of our enemies) isn’t the way of the Messiah.

You are pretending …

I’m not pretending anything.

… the Messiah’s way of living" excludes violence. I've been through this list with you many times before and you've acknowledged the Messiah’s way of living ultimately includes violently throwing billions to their death in the Lake of Fire.

Wait for the Messiah to return. That’s what the followers of Jesus did for the first three centuries of Christian history; that’s what followers of Jesus should always do.

Back on my ignore list!

If that’s what you need to do for yourself, then that’s what you should do.

 

[Anchorite]

 

[Wrangler]

Schools recently have renamed from Crusaders. This proves previous generations honored the Crusaders by believing their students should model the fighting spirit of the Crusaders.

 

[Matthias]

Schools recently have renamed from Crusaders. This proves previous generations honored the Crusaders by believing their students should model the fighting spirit of the Crusaders.

The schools which have done so are not encouraging their students to go and slaughter Muslims, Jews, and Christians. If there are any exceptions, they should close their doors - and arrests made.

 

[Anchorite]

Schools named after vile barbaric Crusaders? Shameful. Students should model themselves after the peaceful Christian martyrs.

 

[Wrangler]

Schools named after vile barbaric Crusaders? Shameful.

We know your hate filled opinion. What we don’t know is your capacity to consider ideas outside yourself, like the facts of history in people honoring the Crusades by naming schools after them.

The contrast between the facts of history and your hate filled opinion shows how Christendom has drifted to be overly spiritualized. Anything addressing our soulful needs is met with contempt, including our need for safety and security IN THIS WORLD.

 

[NayborBear]

God didn’t send you to kill your enemies. The marines? They may have.

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle (and WAR) not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Trust me when I say this............For this is TRUTH!!
SOME, of these powers and principalities of "darkness" and spiritual wickedness in high places?
Let's liken them? As THESE kinds of "tares!" (because they ARE!)
Matthew 13:
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

These "unfruitful ones?!" They walk on 2 feet and talk (and unfortunately?.........MULTIPLY!).
These ones' are NOT "flesh and blood!"
They are IN flesh and blood!
YET? They are NOT flesh and blood!
Genesis 6:
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; AND ALSO, AFTER THAT, (that INCLUDES THESE days TOO yanno?) when the sons of God (NEPHILIUM) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

[Matthias]

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle (and WAR) not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Trust me when I say this............For this is TRUTH!!
SOME, of these powers and principalities of "darkness" and spiritual wickedness in high places?
Let's liken them? As THESE kinds of "tares!" (because they ARE!)
Matthew 13:
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

These "unfruitful ones?!" They walk on 2 feet and talk (and unfortunately?.........MULTIPLY!).
These ones' are NOT "flesh and blood!"
They are IN flesh and blood!
YET? They are NOT flesh and blood!
Genesis 6:
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; AND ALSO, AFTER THAT, (that INCLUDES THESE days TOO yanno?) when the sons of God (NEPHILIUM) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Jesus and the apostles set the example.

Were you in the marines?

 

[Anchorite]