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I am reminded of the Laodiceans. God cannot work with lukewarm people; those who don't care. Better to be cold, and recognize your need, but to be lukewarm believing there is nothing wrong, what can God do? Self-righteousness lies at the foundation of all apostasy.

I remember hearing a Pastor who lived over in the American "bible belt" once say that the hardest crowd to reach was often those already in the pews. Too many who thought they already were 'saved' and therefore didn't need anything else...especially to know Jesus better.
Makes you realize that we really cannot know the true state of people hearts; if they are saved or not. I suppose the point is it still shouldn't change how we treat them...brotherly love.

Unfortunately, it is the worship, these sorts crave. Loving them best maybe confronting or simply ignoring

And yes, Aspen, sometimes I think brotherly love is to give them a good smack up the back side of the head! I think the Bible calls it rebuking. That sounds better, doesn't it? But I agree, sometimes the most loving thing to do is tell people the truth, even...especially if they don't want to hear it.
Goodness, if I had to catalogue all the ways God has used to teach me a lesson or two...! And yet, how thankful I am that he takes the time to do it, and that he won't give up no matter how slow or stubborn I am. I just hope I can remember to pay that sentiment forward as I go...
 

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Jesus called Satan, "the ruler of this world." (John 12:21 NASB) At the heart of Satan's world system, we find religion. In fact, during the Tribulation, the second most powerful man in the world will be a man of religion. The Bible calls him the False Prophet.

Sin represents humanity's most basic dilemma. Religion answers the sin question in one way, and the Gospel answers it in another.

Religion is based on the human conceit that we can do something to earn God's acceptance. That's why the "religious" answer to overcoming sin is "work." Religion always tries to gain God's approval by what we do.

The Gospel says that God offers forgiveness of sin as a gift. And that gift comes on the basis of a God-provided Substitute bearing the penalty for our sin.

Religion is about what WE do. True Christianity is about what CHRIST has already done.

And only one of those ways leads to heaven.

Hal Lindsey

Hi, G, it's certainly impossible to earn salvation through works - the foundation of paganism - but your blanket condemnation of "religion" doesn't agree with the Bible:

"If any man among you seem to be religious (something good), and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain (something bad). "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father (something good) is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world." (James 1:26-27 KJV)​

James plainly says an attitude of self-control, generosity, and keeping oneself from the defilement of sin (which is "transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4 KJV) is simply pure religion before God. The widely accepted philosophy of today's sin-loving "anything goes" church that "religion is bad, but relationship is good" - which is really another way of saying "I can have my sin and my Jesus too" - simply doesn't stand the test of Biblical scrutiny.
 
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Muslims believe that when Allah says "I forgive you" it is all-sufficient. They see no requirement for redemption and a judicial price to be paid. On the other hand, what they see in Christianity is mostly the Catholic version of justification. That even though one is forgiven, a price is still to be paid by the sinner, aka penance/purgatory.

The power of the Spirit comes only with truth. Muslims and all others of whatever religionare converted when they encounter truth if they are open and willing to learn and understand. That truth is found only in the gospel. Not the social gospel of Pope Francis...not the works/ sacramental gospel of traditional Catholicism...not the presumptuous gospel of some which declare a Christian cannot sin...nor the selfish prosperity gospel of the televangelists...but rather the gospel once delivered to the saints...and that gospel is all bound up inJesus Christ, in Whom is all Truth. It is all about Christ; not you, me, or religion...but the Son of God.

That Christ died for me, a sinner, and that on account of the precious blood offered in my stead, I am accounted righteous before a holy God. All the condemnation and penalty for my transgressions have been met at the cross. I am now justified. But atonement was not made at the cross. Although it is thus taught, that atonement was made and finished at Calvary when the Lamb of God died, and though much of the Christian world so believes this to be, and the majority of churches teach this, the popularity of the concept does not make it any more true, if unsupported by divine authority. Perhaps many who attempt to share the gospel today are unaware of this, and wonder at why it seems the Spirit is so unsupportive of that concept. Allow me to make some points...

1. If the atonement was made at Calvary, by whom was it made? The making of atonement is the work of a priest, but who officiated at Calvary? Roman soldiers and wicked Jews.

2. The slaying of the lamb did not make atonement, because it was the sinner that slew the victim. See Levit. 4:1-4; 13-15 etc. After that, the priest took the blood into the sanctuary and made atonement. Levit. 4:5-12; 16-21.

3. Christ was the appointed High Priest to make atonement, and certainly could not have acted in that capacity until after His resurrection. There is no evidence He did anything of that sort while on earth after His resurrection.

4. The atonement was made in the sanctuary...Calvary was not such a place....it was 'outside the gate'.

5. According to Hebrews 8:4 Christ could not make the atonement while on earth, because He could not be a priest while on earth, not being born of Levi. The Levitical priesthood was an earthly function, the heavenly priesthood divine.

6. Therefore Jesus could not begin His work of atonement, whatever nature that work was, until after His ascension and entrance into the heavenly sanctuary as described in Hebrews, wherewith His own blood He now ministers as our High Priest in making atonement for us.

Thus the gospel that we must teach others must be a gospel in its entirety. No compromises, no shortcuts, no excuses. The power of the full gospel is then made manifest in bearing fruits of righteousness in those who by nature are still sinners, but who are being transformed by the renewing of their mind after the character and similitude of their Savior. Being justified at the cross...sanctified by the work of truth and the word of God through the ministry of our High Priest in heaven...we then may offer hope to the sinner that glorification is then inevitable to all those who remain faithful and true to their Creator and Redeemer.
 
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I believe all people are religious regardless, be they atheist etc, man is a religious being end of story.
I have never seen a race or tribe, country all through history that was not religious.
They all have idols or some spiritual perceptions be it evil or good real or false.

I remember our true Abos in Australia years ago when the Poms came and set up church, the abos claimed they were not atheist to the Christian priest, they had their gods and way of life that they lived by, they were not stupid or foolish as it ruled their culture for their betterment, without it they would of never survived, it would of been disaster without it.

What ever you follow or abide by is your religious belief, Communism is a religion, they claim it is not, but fact is it truly is and the twerp who rules all the fools under him is idolised as god, it's a mans works religion.

People who claim to be atheist are just gross ignorant twats, everyone knows their is a God, all you have to do is open your eyes and look around you to see that fact.

Just to be in denial does not cut it.

Or is it hatred for the church perhaps as they can see it ? well ok, but if they can get past that they may come to see their is much more to it then they claim.

It's not about tooth fairy's and pixies or superstition as they love to claim or just a way of ruling over the people dominating them for the churches gain, as a psychopath mate I know claims, that is all that it is and some cunning dude wrote that Bible and it's all rubbish that must be gotten rid of for good and then the great capitalism god he idolises and worships 100% will make him rich and then he will become one who is looked up to as one who is better than all the others he was richer than, but still have a total inferiority complex as to all who are richer than he, not to mention treat all around you like crap and only love your possessions. Pathetic ! but that's what many think.
Oh pure Capitalism will save the world or pure democracy will save the world or another fools will say Communism will save the world, True Christians know this is not the case at all and laugh at such pathetic nonsense as a madness of depraved morons who have no hope and are totally lost clowns.
Such people are so far off the mark it's not funny, it's a disgrace, not to mention they have not Grace, they are likened to beast wild bores that one should not cast pearls before or they will only come at you like such.
 

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Jesus called Satan, "the ruler of this world." (John 12:21 NASB) At the heart of Satan's world system, we find religion. In fact, during the Tribulation, the second most powerful man in the world will be a man of religion. The Bible calls him the False Prophet.

Sin represents humanity's most basic dilemma. Religion answers the sin question in one way, and the Gospel answers it in another.

Religion is based on the human conceit that we can do something to earn God's acceptance. That's why the "religious" answer to overcoming sin is "work." Religion always tries to gain God's approval by what we do.

The Gospel says that God offers forgiveness of sin as a gift. And that gift comes on the basis of a God-provided Substitute bearing the penalty for our sin.

Religion is about what WE do. True Christianity is about what CHRIST has already done.

And only one of those ways leads to heaven.

Hal Lindsey

Christianity is not from God. Jesus never started it, and God never endourced it. One will never find one scripture in the Bible of God ever using the word in regards to His people. It was pagans that used that word to define the people of God, but they never used to define themselves.


Now, in regards to satan being the god of this world. That is true. However, it was Jesus' desire for His people to influence those around them. What church people have failed to understand is that, just before Jesus left for Heaven, He set up the kingdom of God on the Earth, and authorized His people to go out and preach the kingdom of God, baptise those who believe that message and teach them what Jesus taught.
 
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Jesus called Satan, "the ruler of this world." (John 12:21 NASB) At the heart of Satan's world system, we find religion. In fact, during the Tribulation, the second most powerful man in the world will be a man of religion. The Bible calls him the False Prophet.

Sin represents humanity's most basic dilemma. Religion answers the sin question in one way, and the Gospel answers it in another.

Religion is based on the human conceit that we can do something to earn God's acceptance. That's why the "religious" answer to overcoming sin is "work." Religion always tries to gain God's approval by what we do.

The Gospel says that God offers forgiveness of sin as a gift. And that gift comes on the basis of a God-provided Substitute bearing the penalty for our sin.

Religion is about what WE do. True Christianity is about what CHRIST has already done.

And only one of those ways leads to heaven.

Hal Lindsey

I don't think you will be able to convince me that we shouldn't put forth effort to stop murdering, stealing, bearing false witness, lying, warring, etc. and if you think that isn't work you're wrong. I agree that we shouldn't have the motivation of trying to save ourselves, instead we should work at those things because of our love for God, his only- begotten Son our Lord and King Jesus Christ, our spiritual brother and sisters, and our love for mankind.
 

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Christianity is not from God. Jesus never started it, and God never endourced it. One will never find one scripture in the Bible of God ever using the word in regards to His people. It was pagans that used that word to define the people of God, but they never used to define themselves.


Now, in regards to satan being the god of this world. That is true. However, it was Jesus' desire for His people to influence those around them. What church people have failed to understand is that, just before Jesus left for Heaven, He set up the kingdom of God on the Earth, and authorized His people to go out and preach the kingdom of God, baptise those who believe that message and teach them what Jesus taught.
Well the Jews never mentioned the word God or for anyone to claim such a thing in ignorance, you had to watch out with such a claim or you would get backhanded quick smart.
Jesus being the Holy Spirit incarnate he was here in the beginning and will still be here to the end and the Holy Spirit was made by God the Father who made everything.
So it's the Holy Spirit that gives light to God both the Father and the Son.
The word Judah means the people of God.
The word Israel means the servants of God.
Everyone outside of that is a pagan and only have gods.
Christians are people of God and the born again are Israel.

There is no State that is Israel, because that is just a Satanic working created by Hitler and his Nazis and his Zionist Socialist buddy's and just look at it now, It's the capital of Sodom in the world today, is it reflecting of being Israel in the OT ? the servants of Hell is more likely and the real Jews who full on truly believe in the OT that do in fact say just that as well and the so called Zionist hate them who are truly of the OT but follow the Talmud whore and it's evil madness.
 

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Well the Jews never mentioned the word God or for anyone to claim such a thing in ignorance, you had to watch out with such a claim or you would get backhanded quick smart.
Jesus being the Holy Spirit incarnate he was here in the beginning and will still be here to the end and the Holy Spirit was made by God the Father who made everything.
So it's the Holy Spirit that gives light to God both the Father and the Son.
The word Judah means the people of God.
The word Israel means the servants of God.
Everyone outside of that is a pagan and only have gods.
Christians are people of God and the born again are Israel.

There is no State that is Israel, because that is just a Satanic working created by Hitler and his Nazis and his Zionist Socialist buddy's and just look at it now, It's the capital of Sodom in the world today, is it reflecting of being Israel in the OT ? the servants of Hell is more likely and the real Jews who full on truly believe in the OT that do in fact say just that as well and the so called Zionist hate them who are truly of the OT but follow the Talmud whore and it's evil madness.

I stand firmly on what I said.
 

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Jesus called Satan, "the ruler of this world." (John 12:21 NASB) At the heart of Satan's world system, we find religion. In fact, during the Tribulation, the second most powerful man in the world will be a man of religion. The Bible calls him the False Prophet.

Sin represents humanity's most basic dilemma. Religion answers the sin question in one way, and the Gospel answers it in another.

Religion is based on the human conceit that we can do something to earn God's acceptance. That's why the "religious" answer to overcoming sin is "work." Religion always tries to gain God's approval by what we do.

The Gospel says that God offers forgiveness of sin as a gift. And that gift comes on the basis of a God-provided Substitute bearing the penalty for our sin.

Religion is about what WE do. True Christianity is about what CHRIST has already done.

And only one of those ways leads to heaven.

Hal Lindsey

Jesus expects His people to have good works......Jesus said it, or they will not make it. Good works is what all of those who will make it into the kingdom of God will have. Their reward will be based on the kind of good works they had and how successful they were in it.
 

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Jesus expects His people to have good works......Jesus said it, or they will not make it. Good works is what all of those who will make it into the kingdom of God will have. Their reward will be based on the kind of good works they had and how successful they were in it.
Your good works are nothing but filthy rags.
The works that are in Jesus that you abide in are the only workings that counts, mans works don't cut it in the Kingdom of God.

The Jews always failed only because they were lead astray by mans workings and turning away from Gods ways, just as we in Christianity are failing now, because people are being deceived by all the cunning of the workings of the power of Satanic mobs.

You will not be rewarded by how successful you are in anything, but that you abide in the Lord Jesus yourself, hopefully being by his right side.
 
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Your good works are nothing but filthy rags.
The works that are in Jesus that you abide in are the only workings that counts, mans works don't cut it in the Kingdom of God.

The Jews always failed only because they were lead astray by mans workings and turning away from Gods ways, just as we in Christianity are failing now, because people are being deceived by all the cunning of the workings of the power of Satanic mobs.

You will not be rewarded by how successful you are in anything, but that you abide in the Lord Jesus yourself, hopefully being by his right side.

Call it whatever you want, nevertheless Jesus commands His people to have good works.


Matthew 7:21 (ASV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
 

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Call it whatever you want, nevertheless Jesus commands His people to have good works.


Matthew 7:21 (ASV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
And Mat 7:21 points it out that good works do not save you, the people who say lord lord are they of their own good works, they do not abide in Jesus, if at all.
Your good works don't cut it, even the OT commandments don't cut it to get one into Heaven, No one went to Heaven until Jesus Did and they only did so because they were at his right hand not his left.
The ones who are on Jesus left are they who say lord lord but their hearts are far from Jesus and they do not abide in him, but abide in themselves and mans works, such have been payed and seen by men doing their own works.
Now what is wrong with doing your own good works is that does not cut it, because to claim such you are rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord.

Mans works seeks it's own glory and they maybe good as such but they could be bad in the eyes of God too, just like Political Correctness may come across to fools as a good thing to idolise as many do but fact is when one truly understands it's workings then you can see it's of Satanic works, nothing to do with Jesus at all in anyway.
All Political Correctness works only to trump Christianity and once it has set it's self up truly, then it will stamp out Christianity, because Christianity does not cut it to the PC gods and such has been underway now for years undermining Jesus Christ.
All atheist love Political Correctness, it was the tool the Nazis and communist used to mislead the people and I am sure the people thought they were doing good like in that the ends justify the means crap. so they reject or turn away from Jesus Christ to do their own works because they don't believe that Jesus can cut it, so they think they have to add to Jesus their own works.
 

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And Mat 7:21 points it out that good works do not save you, the people who say lord lord are they of their own good works, they do not abide in Jesus, if at all.
Your good works don't cut it, even the OT commandments don't cut it to get one into Heaven, No one went to Heaven until Jesus Did and they only did so because they were at his right hand not his left.
The ones who are on Jesus left are they who say lord lord but their hearts are far from Jesus and they do not abide in him, but abide in themselves and mans works, such have been payed and seen by men doing their own works.
Now what is wrong with doing your own good works is that does not cut it, because to claim such you are rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord.

Mans works seeks it's own glory and they maybe good as such but they could be bad in the eyes of God too, just like Political Correctness may come across to fools as a good thing to idolise as many do but fact is when one truly understands it's workings then you can see it's of Satanic works, nothing to do with Jesus at all in anyway.
All Political Correctness works only to trump Christianity and once it has set it's self up truly, then it will stamp out Christianity, because Christianity does not cut it to the PC gods and such has been underway now for years undermining Jesus Christ.
All atheist love Political Correctness, it was the tool the Nazis and communist used to mislead the people and I am sure the people thought they were doing good like in that the ends justify the means crap. so they reject or turn away from Jesus Christ to do their own works because they don't believe that Jesus can cut it, so they think they have to add to Jesus their own works.

Jesus in Mathew 7:23 addressed the kind of people He was talking about.

Matthew 7:23 (KJV)

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The word that is translated iniquity from the Greek is the word anomia, and means Lawlessness. But not lawlessness against man's laws but against God's/Jesus' words or commands. These are people like the pharisees seem to be rightious to others but they are living a lie.


But it doesn't mean that one is not required to have good works. It was part of the gospel Jesus preached.

Matthew 25:14-30 (NKJV)
14 "For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them.
15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey.
16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents.
17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also.
18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord's money.
19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, 'Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.'
21 His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
22 He also who had received two talents came and said, 'Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.'
23 His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
24 Then he who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed.
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.'
26 But his lord answered and said to him, 'You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed.
27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.
28 Therefore take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away.
30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'


The unprofitable servant didn't use what he was given, so what he was given was taken away from him and given someone else.


In Mathew 7:24 Jesus made it quite clear that those who hear His words and do them are wise.


Matthew 7:24-27 (ASV)
24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.


One of the things Jesus commanded His people to do is to use their gifts, and use of once's gifts is not limited to those in the Church. When Jesus went about healing people, He didn't exclude anyone when they came to Him for help.


Here the Galatians are encourged to not become weary in doing good.

Galatians 6:9-10 (KJV)
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
 

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Jesus in Mathew 7:23 addressed the kind of people He was talking about.

Matthew 7:23 (KJV)

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The word that is translated iniquity from the Greek is the word anomia, and means Lawlessness. But not lawlessness against man's laws but against God's/Jesus' words or commands. These are people like the pharisees seem to be rightious to others but they are living a lie.


But it doesn't mean that one is not required to have good works. It was part of the gospel Jesus preached.

Matthew 25:14-30 (NKJV)
14 "For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them.
15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey.
16 Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents.
17 And likewise he who had received two gained two more also.
18 But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord's money.
19 After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
20 So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, 'Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.'
21 His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
22 He also who had received two talents came and said, 'Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.'
23 His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
24 Then he who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed.
25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.'
26 But his lord answered and said to him, 'You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed.
27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.
28 Therefore take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
29 For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away.
30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'


The unprofitable servant didn't use what he was given, so what he was given was taken away from him and given someone else.


In Mathew 7:24 Jesus made it quite clear that those who hear His words and do them are wise.


Matthew 7:24-27 (ASV)
24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.


One of the things Jesus commanded His people to do is to use their gifts, and use of once's gifts is not limited to those in the Church. When Jesus went about healing people, He didn't exclude anyone when they came to Him for help.


Here the Galatians are encourged to not become weary in doing good.

Galatians 6:9-10 (KJV)
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Do you think that good works are all good in themselves, like that of Political Correctness is a good work ?
Or you could say that one helped another ? is that good ? now was it that one helped another to rip off another ?
Or I helped people survive and penned them in within a mission, aid and fed and clothed them but I and my mob get the glory for doing so, is that a good work.
Or one Tribe killed another totally and you go help that tribe that killed all the others to prosper.

How about the great Band Aid charity that was years ago and all the people who gave donations that went to a totally criminal mob who used that money to kill the good Negroes who were Christians as well.

What if I give money, to aid charity's does that make me doing a good work ? no it does not at all, how do you know your not supporting criminals who give say only 10 % or so to the cause and what ever evil they intend to do.
If you gave money to a charity and that mob did evil are you are guilty of a sin.

What if I give my children everything so they never have to bother to work or do anything for themselves, am I doing a good work ?

What if I work to give support to all the low life's and no hoper criminals letting them grow and fester but make many others work so hard and struggling to keep a roof over there heads, let alone they are being robed by the very dogs you love to support. is that a good work ? many people do claim such are good works.
What if you give 10% of what you earn to a church that supports and covers up Pedophiles.
 

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Do you think that good works are all good in themselves, like that of Political Correctness is a good work ?
Or you could say that one helped another ? is that good ? now was it that one helped another to rip off another ?
Or I helped people survive and penned them in within a mission, aid and fed and clothed them but I and my mob get the glory for doing so, is that a good work.
Or one Tribe killed another totally and you go help that tribe that killed all the others to prosper.

How about the great Band Aid charity that was years ago and all the people who gave donations that went to a totally criminal mob who used that money to kill the good Negroes who were Christians as well.

What if I give money, to aid charity's does that make me doing a good work ? no it does not at all, how do you know your not supporting criminals who give say only 10 % or so to the cause and what ever evil they intend to do.
If you gave money to a charity and that mob did evil are you are guilty of a sin.

What if I give my children everything so they never have to bother to work or do anything for themselves, am I doing a good work ?

What if I work to give support to all the low life's and no hoper criminals letting them grow and fester but make many others work so hard and struggling to keep a roof over there heads, let alone they are being robed by the very dogs you love to support. is that a good work ? many people do claim such are good works.
What if you give 10% of what you earn to a church that supports and covers up Pedophiles.


That depends on who is influencing you. Do you get your teaching from the world of from God? What did Jesus do when He walked the streets of Jerusalem?
 

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So would I be correct to say that you are preaching the kingdom of God, and using your gifts to influence others with the kingdom of God?

This is what Jesus did in Jerusalem.
Luke 9:2 (ASV)
2 And he sent them forth to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
Only Jesus could truly answer that.

I feel that the sick are the ones who are not of faith in Jesus and they need to come to Jesus Christ to be healed.
Why would one reject paradise and such is what it's like to be with Jesus, to know him is Awesome than to be lost to mans worldly pursuits.
 

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Only Jesus could truly answer that.

So if you don't know, how can you say you get your teaching from Jesus? LOL Do you mean that Jesus teaching you but you are not paying attenton to anything He say? Are you confused?

I feel that the sick are the ones who are not of faith in Jesus and they need to come to Jesus Christ to be healed.
Why would one reject paradise and such is what it's like to be with Jesus, to know him is Awesome than to be lost to mans worldly pursuits.

I can't help but laugh at the level of your ignorance.....but it's sad at the same time. It's like listing to a doctor who don't know how to do his job, then blame the patient for dying. Religious people are bassically usless when it comes to doing what Jesus commaneded. This is why I have nothing to do with christianity.....a religion invented by satan to fool people.
 
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