Religion is about what WE do.True Christianity is about what CHRIST has already done.

[Reggie Belafonte]

So if you don't know, how can you say you get your teaching from Jesus? LOL Do you mean that Jesus teaching you but you are not paying attenton to anything He say? Are you confused?



I can't help but laugh at the level of your ignorance.....but it's sad at the same time. It's like listing to a doctor who don't know how to do his job, then blame the patient for dying. Religious people are bassically usless when it comes to doing what Jesus commaneded. This is why I have nothing to do with christianity.....a religion invented by satan to fool people.

I am not confused at all.
The thing is I am just not boasting of anything, because that is a worldly position of one who rejects Jesus Christ or is mislead to the reality's.
Who can truly do 100% Jesus commandments, one can only abide as it is given to them and nothing more.

Every ignorant idiot atheist I know says such as what you have just said, religion was invented by man (Satan) well religion is man and I have never known a person in history that was not.
Man is Satanic that's his fallen state and all his works are worthless because they may come from pride etc.

Christianity is the Spiritual body of Christ and he is the head.

One can't go around bagging the people who go to church, as if all full of people who are fooled as all that is needed is that they are of the faith and not all have got it all together and no one is asking that of them, but it's about that they may abound in the Lord.

Skiting that one is born again boasting does not cut it.
Sure many a church is not of Christ Jesus and is misleading the people for worldly nonsense

 

[verzanumi24]

I am not confused at all.
The thing is I am just not boasting of anything, because that is a worldly position of one who rejects Jesus Christ or is mislead to the reality's.
Who can truly do 100% Jesus commandments, one can only abide as it is given to them and nothing more.

Every ignorant idiot atheist I know says such as what you have just said, religion was invented by man (Satan) well religion is man and I have never known a person in history that was not.
Man is Satanic that's his fallen state and all his works are worthless because they may come from pride etc.

Christianity is the Spiritual body of Christ and he is the head.

One can't go around bagging the people who go to church, as if all full of people who are fooled as all that is needed is that they are of the faith and not all have got it all together and no one is asking that of them, but it's about that they may abound in the Lord.

Skiting that one is born again boasting does not cut it.
Sure many a church is not of Christ Jesus and is misleading the people for worldly nonsense

How would it be boasting if someone asked you a question if you are telling the truth? There's a difference between being asked a question that you don't know the answer for, as opposed to being asked a question to which you should know the answer to. I have never read in the Bible of any of men of God, who wern't sure if they were obeying God or not. And if you think you know, but say you don't know, then you are being dishonest.

 

[verzanumi24]

I am not confused at all.
The thing is I am just not boasting of anything, because that is a worldly position of one who rejects Jesus Christ or is mislead to the reality's.
Who can truly do 100% Jesus commandments, one can only abide as it is given to them and nothing more.

Every ignorant idiot atheist I know says such as what you have just said, religion was invented by man (Satan) well religion is man and I have never known a person in history that was not.
Man is Satanic that's his fallen state and all his works are worthless because they may come from pride etc.

Christianity is the Spiritual body of Christ and he is the head.

One can't go around bagging the people who go to church, as if all full of people who are fooled as all that is needed is that they are of the faith and not all have got it all together and no one is asking that of them, but it's about that they may abound in the Lord.

Skiting that one is born again boasting does not cut it.
Sure many a church is not of Christ Jesus and is misleading the people for worldly nonsense

Show me even one scripture in the Bible that used the word christianity in the same sentence with the body of Christ? You will not find it in the Bible. Neither Jesus, or the aposcles nor even the Father ever used that word to difine the people of God. Much of what passess for christianity has it's roots in paganism, and much of what Jesus commaned is ignored by christians. They have just enough to appare of God to fool themselves and the world, but not enough to fool those who know the truth.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

How would it be boasting if someone asked you a question if you are telling the truth? There's a difference between being asked a question that you don't know the answer for, as opposed to being asked a question to which you should know the answer to. I have never read in the Bible of any of men of God, who wern't sure if they were obeying God or not. And if you think you know, but say you don't know, then you are being dishonest.

Ones asked Jesus trick questions as well and he never answered them or he gave them a example that drove the message home to believers but the others could not fathom.
Boasting is what you were working at trying to get me to say.

 

[verzanumi24]

Ones asked Jesus trick questions as well and he never answered them or he gave them a example that drove the message home to believers but the others could not fathom.
Boasting is what you were working at trying to get me to say.

So you are making a judgment against me by using Jesus' situation. Is this the kind of person you are; judging others based on what someone else did?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Show me even one scripture in the Bible that used the word christianity in the same sentence with the body of Christ? You will not find it in the Bible. Neither Jesus, or the aposcles nor even the Father ever used that word to difine the people of God. Much of what passess for christianity has it's roots in paganism, and much of what Jesus commaned is ignored by christians. They have just enough to appare of God to fool themselves and the world, but not enough to fool those who know the truth.

Well fact is that they who follow Jesus Christ are of that body abiding in him.
Judah represents the people of God, Israel was the name given to Jacob from a Angel meaning Servant of God and it's his seed that are of the promise so you do have Biblical poof in all such.

True Christians have nothing to do with Pagan rubbish and sure no organisation or person can claim to be perfection.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So you are making a judgment against me by using Jesus' situation. Is this the kind of person you are; judging others based on what someone else did?

We some I know do just go about with one big ego trip claiming that everyone is wrong and that they know everything but the fact is they are just running around slandering everything they can try to, but they do not know or bothered to look into things they claim in depth.

 

[verzanumi24]

Well fact is that they who follow Jesus Christ are of that body abiding in him.

Do you understand what it means to follow Jesus? What did Jesus meant by "Come and follow me", when He spoke to the men who become His disciples?

Judah represents the people of God, Israel was the name given to Jacob from a Angel meaning Servant of God and it's his seed that are of the promise so you do have Biblical poof in all such.

True Christians have nothing to do with Pagan rubbish and sure no organisation or person can claim to be perfection.

Where did christians get the christmas and the easter custom from?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Do you understand what it means to follow Jesus? What did Jesus meant by "Come and follow me", when He spoke to the men who become His disciples?



Where did christians get the christmas and the easter custom from?

Ha Christmas santa claws and the easter bunny are following jesus didn't you know.

I have never seen a Christmas tree in the Church or the easter bunny.

 

[verzanumi24]

We some I know do just go about with one big ego trip claiming that everyone is wrong and that they know everything but the fact is they are just running around slandering everything they can try to, but they do not know or bothered to look into things they claim in depth.

You didn't answer my question, and the fact is, there are individuals that do know more about a given subject than others. It takes humility to recognize, accept and be willing to be taught and corrected......that how I have been able to learn and grow. If I took the position that the person who knew more than I did had an ego problem, then I would be the one with the ego. Have you or anyone reading this and have rejected what I have been saying, thought of the possibility that God could be behind what I have been saying?

 

[verzanumi24]

Ha Christmas santa claws and the easter bunny are following jesus didn't you know.

I have never seen a Christmas tree in the Church or the easter bunny.

I didn't say anything about christmas trees or easter bunny in church. I asked you where did christians get christmas and easter from? Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about......most christians oberve christmas and easter whether they put up a christmas tree in church or not.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I think it's more of a commercial thing that has been sold to add on to and is picked up to blend into the religious point, no Christmas tree in the church or Easter bunny is their from what I ever seen.
It's just been picked up and added on to all this commercialism and the crap.
Sure many people full on love the Santa claws and bunny crap but that stuff is just so powerful and people look forward to it, so how do you compete with that, well I think that the church seen opportunity to work with it.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

You didn't answer my question, and the fact is, there are individuals that do know more about a given subject than others. It takes humility to recognize, accept and be willing to be taught and corrected......that how I have been able to learn and grow. If I took the position that the person who knew more than I did had an ego problem, then I would be the one with the ego. Have you or anyone reading this and have rejected what I have been saying, thought of the possibility that God could be behind what I have been saying?

The thing was I was coming from more than a water baptised position but a spiritual position on my out look not one that is worldly and that's the problem with people like you ranting and raving about everything it's the anger that clouds your mind, so we hear people claiming to be totally against things going to far, one has to give over at times, because it's not a utopia.
People who rant against Christmas and Easter are barking up the wrong tree, sure point out what is wrong with most of it being pagan, but not all of it is pagan you know. as there is a message in it so people can come understand who Jesus is and putting effort into that is not a Sin is it.

 

[verzanumi24]

The thing was I was coming from more than a water baptised position but a spiritual position on my out look not one that is worldly and that's the problem with people like you ranting and raving about everything it's the anger that clouds your mind, so we hear people claiming to be totally against things going to far, one has to give over at times, because it's not a utopia.
People who rant against Christmas and Easter are barking up the wrong tree, sure point out what is wrong with most of it being pagan, but not all of it is pagan you know. as there is a message in it so people can come understand who Jesus is and putting effort into that is not a Sin is it.

Do you realise that mixing good and evil still equals evil?

 

[verzanumi24]

I think it's more of a commercial thing that has been sold to add on to and is picked up to blend into the religious point, no Christmas tree in the church or Easter bunny is their from what I ever seen.
It's just been picked up and added on to all this commercialism and the crap.
Sure many people full on love the Santa claws and bunny crap but that stuff is just so powerful and people look forward to it, so how do you compete with that, well I think that the church seen opportunity to work with it.

Have you never read in the Bible where it say not to conform to the ways of this world? One cannot renew their mind by conforming to the world. One is either leading or follwing.

Romans 12:2 (WesleyNT)
2 And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God.

Instead of taking the lead, christians have become followers of the world. Christianity is a joke. In christianity, the Bible is just a nice book, but not to be taken seriously or obeyed. When a person conforms to this world, the indivdual is not in a postion to know what is good and acceptible to the will of God.

 

[Triumph1300]

In christianity, the Bible is just a nice book, but not to be taken seriously or obeyed.

Well....maybe the people you hang around with.

Not the Christian people who I have as friends.

 

[verzanumi24]

Well....maybe the people you hang around with.

Not the Christian people who I have as friends.

99.99 percent of the churches that's what the Bible has become to them. They are not willing to recieve correction and instructiong when errors on their part is pointed out to them via the scriptures. Christians find all kinds of reasons to continue in their errors.

 

[Triumph1300]

You did a poll?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Do you realise that mixing good and evil still equals evil?

Yes I do but that's not the point at all, if one starts ranting on and on, that does not work in bring people to Jesus.
You are coming across as a letter of the Law type a dictator type and that never works but only enslaves all under a madness.
Like I said I have seen no Christmas tree in the church etc or Santa.

You can point out your objections to who ever you want at any time.

Kids love all that Christmas and Easter bunny stuff and most women love it, I don't but if it makes them happy who am I to be a bad sport, I try to point to Jesus as the true point and it's up to them to pick it up, I can't force anyone.

 

[verzanumi24]

Yes I do but that's not the point at all, if one starts ranting on and on, that does not work in bring people to Jesus.

That is the point. To claim to belive in the Bible but live contrary to what the scriptures and Jesus taught is being a hypocret. It doesn't matter if a pagan symbol is in the church or at home, it's still pagan and God sees it. That is like me acting nince and frendly in church, but when I'm home I treat my family badly....that is living a double life, and is no better than those who don't professed to be christians. It's interesting that the divorce rate in the churches mirros the world, instead of them being a shining example.

You are coming across as a letter of the Law type a dictator type and that never works but only enslaves all under a madness.
Like I said I have seen no Christmas tree in the church etc or Santa.

I said nothing about law. I'm pointing out sin/hypocracy.

You can point out your objections to who ever you want at any time.

Kids love all that Christmas and Easter bunny stuff and most women love it, I don't but if it makes them happy who am I to be a bad sport, I try to point to Jesus as the true point and it's up to them to pick it up, I can't force anyone.

There's a lot of things people love and enjoy, but the question to ask is, is it right? Just because one loves something doesn't mean it's good.


Proverbs 14:12 (ESV)
12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.

It's not children that should be leading the parents, but the parents.....the father is to lead and guide his family. The scriptures tells us the blessing of bring up one's child the right way.

Proverbs 22:6 (ASV)
6 Train up a child in the way he should go, And even when he is old he will not depart from it.

God holds the parents accountable for how they bring up their children. If you or anyone have a problem with my ranting as you call it, then imagine what it would be like to stand before God and being judged against, knowing that their is nothing one can do to change His mind?

It takes humility to accept correction but pride will prevent one from recieving correction. When David sinned by having sex with another man's wife, and then have the man killed, how was David's reaction when he was confrunted by Nathan? As a king, he could have ordered Nathan exicuted. But even as a king, he was humble enough to recieve correction. I can't say that about most christians.....they love to hear things that make them feel good, rather than correction and instruction. They are like ancient Israel, that didn't want to hear the truth.

Isaiah 30:9-10 (KJV)
9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

To those who are offened by what I have been saying....too bad. But at least you can't say you were not told.