responding to shooting.

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

[email protected]

Choir Loft
Apr 2, 2009
1,635
127
63
West Central Florida
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
joshhuntnm said:
When the dust settles, what should we do in response to the shooting? Do we need armed guards in every school?
The gun control issue lies at the core of governmental distrust and cultural division. Politically its a raw nerve.

The Newtown tragedy, coming on the heels of a divisive national election, happened at a time when tempers should have been cooling down. Instead gasoline was poured upon the blaze and the flames reach higher. Was this coincidence or design?

On the left, Diane Feinstein has announced publicly and privately that she wants all civilian guns confiscated. All of them. All types. Period. On the right, we've got the NRA, the only large national organization that even pretends to stand for constitutional law and reason. Between the two our left wing media has been caught editing statements and reports of events to the advantage of anti-gun interests. Facts have been altered and deliberately misrepresented. Lies abound. Illegal actions by the president and his attorney general (I'm referring to Eric Holder and the Fast and Furious incident) go unpunished. Government hypocrisy and corruption stands above the law.

In this atmosphere of government hypocrisy and media lies is it any wonder that an issue, which in otherwise normal times might be addressed logically and dispassionately, is becoming a rallying point for separatists of every flavor and in every sovereign state? It's the culture, not the guns. This is but the most obvious evidence of something at work in the land to tear the nation into smaller pieces.

Call it geopolitical division, call it economic sectioning or call it secession it is evidence of the imminent collapse of the American Empire.

The American culture is drenched in sin and debauchery. You know it. I know it. It hides no longer in dark places. Sin is everywhere and it is proudly hailed. The ancient snake is loosed upon us and it's our culture that has opened its cage! There is no aspect of rebellion against God, humanity and common decency that isn't proudly hailed today as "the new normal". You've heard and read the remarks as well as I. It's all there in our faces. Those that love God and right are in the minority and the minority is shrinking - not growing. It's the culture and it has become so obvious that its beginning to rip the nation apart. The gun issue is ridiculous. In more rational times it wouldn't even be important - a debate on the side of legislative activity over more important matters. Except that it isn't a side issue any more!

Every empire in history has succumbed to the pressures of cultural division, economic collapse, political corruption and military defeat. The pressures have always resulted in geographic division. The United States isn't immune to these pressures. In fact, we fought a great war on our own soil nearly two hundred years ago over the issue of Federal control and the right of state sovereignty. At the time, the government was in the right politically, economically, culturally, spiritually and morally. Today its different. If there is a center to moral collapse and wickedness of every sort it lies in Washington, DC. If there is an epicenter for an earthquake that may tear our nation into smaller pieces its located in Washington. DC no longer rules and judges in the right. We have all been lead into servitude of military and commercial interests. The rights of the common man and the rule of law have been ignored at the highest level.

We see division and distrust in every email chain that circles the country - reminding us of the way things used to be! Reminding us of what is right and how that rightness has been lost! Reminding us of the grace and love of God that is now mocked IN THE CULTURE.

It isn't about the guns. It's about hate and distrust. The nation is divided into groups and political camps and every single one of them hates the other. There will be less and less opportunity to rationally and peacefully work out our cultural problems as time goes on. Fear is growing and the nation has become an armed camp. When there is no trust in government, citizens are forced to arm themselves. Where there is no justice, there can be no peace.

In the decision Warren v. District of Columbia the supreme court ruled that police are not obligated to defend citizens. What remains is for them to investigate, to draw caulk lines on the street around the fallen bodies of those who have been victims. When seconds count the police are minutes away. In this charged atmosphere, voices calling for calm are lost in the shouting. The culture dies screaming.

Was Newtown an isolated incident or is it a part of divine judgment? Many shout God Bless America, but is this evidence of blessing? Ask the dead children. Ask the mourning parents. They remain silent. Their words and what happened to them is lost upon a nation that is tearing itself apart. God is not blessing America. Not any more. America has turned its back upon Holy kindness and chosen violence and murder and rebellion. We are drinking the cup of bloody hell we have poured out on others and hypocritically ask where God went. God has left town because we told Him to leave us alone - to stop interfering in our culture.

It's the culture, not the guns.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...