Revelation 13

[th1b.taylor]

Revelation 13:1:
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revelation 13:2:
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Many have found this to be a Spiritual Metaphor for a modern day Roman Empire and I will not nor can I debate it being something else. We see that the sea is used to represent a multitude of people and using that example it is easy to see Satan´s man rising up to gain power. Some have been so bold as to proclaim this empire being composed of the countries of the European Union, I´m not at all certain of that. The Roman Empire consisted of nations from all of the known world and I tend to be more inclusive in my assessment of this reconstitution of the empire.

Revelation 13:3:
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

It is wonderful, the method and the manner of God´s use of words. I have seen several interpretations of this one scripture and none of the convince me of their being the one explanation.

Revelation 13:4:
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

It is important to remember, the Beast has just shone up on the radar and God has promised a peace that will be unparalleled for the first three and one half years, and this man will appear to be the author of that peace. Suddenly Satan and the Beast will be put up as God´s.

Revelation 13:5:
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Revelation 13:6:
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Revelation 13:7:
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Revelation 13:8:
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:9:
If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Many take this to show that the Church is not raptured until the first three and a half years are completed and I, being Pretrib, do not argue with them. You see, this is one of those secondary issues and in no manor affects our mission as described in the Great Commission. (Matt. 28:18-20) It is my position that, much like in the Left Behind series, there will be Laymen, Deacons and even Pastors that were not committed, whole heartedly, and they will finally get it! Life for these later Christians will be pure persecution. All of the Lost will be out to slay them, along with the Two Witness´.

Revelation 13:10:
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 13:11:
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Revelation 13:12:
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Revelation 13:13:
And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Revelation 13:14:
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 13:15:
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Revelation 13:16:
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Now enters the imitator of God. I take it that the world will see this one as the ultimate peace giver and will throw open their arms to welcome him into their, very, hearts. I find it important to note, here, that the Mark is issued and nowhere before the Beasts take over is it given. Many fear the Chip that, today, is being injected into our animals and the children of the Upper Class, all over the world. All of the Banks are calling for this chip to be given to all of us, but this is not the mark. (My opinion.) There is reason to fear this chip but for the time being, at least, the Mark of the Beast is the least of the reasons.

All of our Bank Records, Criminal Records and Medical Records are accessed through this chip and still, these are not as dangerous as the primary reason to distrust the chip. These chips are read because they have an RF Signal. RF is short for Radio Frequency. Therefore the chip is locatable 365 days a year, 24/7. You cannot hide without cutting the chip out of your body.

Revelation 13:17:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 13:18:
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Here we find an interesting point, every Bar Code, I´m instructed, begins with a six, ends with a six and directly in the middle, is a six. And I have no firm ground to make a statement about such but it is alarming to those that are close to the Church but have not committed.

 

[BibleScribe]

... I will not nor can I debate it ...

I would propose that this simple statement about covers the breadth and depth of your ~commentary~. You don't identify the assignments for the heads, or the horns, or the aspects of the beast; you throw a red herring regarding the "mark"; and provide an elementary (a generous term) analysis of the 666.

But as you assert, you're content speaking from your ignorance, rather than working to a resolve the TRUTH.



BibleScribe

 

[th1b.taylor]

I would propose that this simple statement about covers the breadth and depth of your ~commentary~. You don't identify the assignments for the heads, or the horns, or the aspects of the beast; you throw a red herring regarding the "mark"; and provide an elementary (a generous term) analysis of the 666.

But as you assert, you're content speaking from your ignorance, rather than working to a resolve the TRUTH.



BibleScribe

And your insults are left for the LORD to deal with in the Judgment and your invite to fight is refused.

 

[BibleScribe]

And your insults are left for the LORD to deal with in the Judgment and your invite to fight is refused.

"Fight"? Is the lack of specifics by YOU judged an invitation to a "fight" by ME?

It seems what you have neglected is significant, and cannot be glossed over by some trumped up attack against a legitimate question. And of course you don't attack the veracity of the question, but you assail the questioner. Are you of such low self esteem that you can't answer what you fail to address?




To All,

There are several resources available for such individual. If "th1b.taylor" were a materials engineer, the best selection is "unobtanium". It has infinite strength, and zero mass. Of course there's also "miraculum" and "proposalloy", but these are much more expensive.

However, being that th1b.taylor presents himself as a "teacher", one might recommend either ridiculum or handwavium. Or the more readily available alternative, obsurdium.


But then again, some people apparently want everyone to fawn over their pronouncements, never questioning their doctrines, basis, context, or history. They simply want to be ~worshiped~.

BibleScribe

 

[Cresco]

Just FYI, I work at a label company (stickers), and we print thousands of barcodes of every variety everyday. Your statment about the number 6 being integral to a barcode is false.

 

[Insight]

Revelation 13:18:
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Here we find an interesting point, every Bar Code, I´m instructed, begins with a six, ends with a six and directly in the middle, is a six. And I have no firm ground to make a statement about such but it is alarming to those that are close to the Church but have not committed.

Taylor

Would you like to discuss the number 6 and its meaning?

Insight

 

[BibleScribe]

Just FYI, I work at a label company (stickers), and we print thousands of barcodes of every variety everyday. Your statment about the number 6 being integral to a barcode is false.

Hi Cresco,

There are two basic internationally recognized barcode systems which are of interest. The one we are most familiar with is the Uniform Product Code (UPC), and the second is the European Article Number (EAN). Each of these contain three registration marks of two thin lines in the beginning, middle, and end. These two thin lines represent the number "six".

And of course there are many other types of barcodes which may be used for any number of inventory applications which do not have the registration marks as described. But the ones of interest are as depicted.


BibleScribe

 

[Cresco]

Hi Cresco,

There are two basic internationally recognized barcode systems which are of interest. The one we are most familiar with is the Uniform Product Code (UPC), and the second is the European Article Number (EAN). Each of these contain three registration marks of two thin lines in the beginning, middle, and end. These two thin lines represent the number "six".

BibleScribe

Good Morning Biblescribe,
I was unaware of this train of thought so I Googled it this morning to educated myself, and I have to respectfully say that by all accounts you have to literally stretch the truth to make this fit the claim, which it doesn't. I would agree that barcodes are helping to usher in the mark of the beast, but really, what in this day and age is not priming everyone for the mark to be accepted. But I do not believe, nor is there credible evidence to show that 666 is embedded in barcodes. The claim that this is so, only comes from a Human Interpretation of the information, which does not make it true. Because I see a cloud shaped like a Bunny does not mean that there is really a bunny flying in the sky. I am simply projecting what I want to see onto the simple plain, white fluffy clouds.

 

[BibleScribe]

Hi Cresco,

I equally investigated this several years ago, using a Xerox barcode numbering system homepage (which no longer exists) and found that the second number sequence of two thin lines represented the number "6". As such I now agree with you according to the perception excerpted as follows:


What about bardoces and 666: The Mark of the Beast?
by Terry Watkins

http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html

... All three guard bars contain the pattern "bar-space-bar" or "101". There is only ONE number, in TWENTY numbers (remember right and left numbers have different patterns) that contains the "101" pattern and that number is the right code SIX. Not the number one, or two, or three, etc. — but ONLY the right code SIX. I do seem to remember something about a mark on the RIGHT hand (Rev. 13:16).
Technically, from a computer's perspective the number "666" is NOT in the UPC barcode. . . but from a human's perspective — YES, the "appearance" of 666 is there!
What does the inventor of the UPC barcode say about the number "666" in the UPC barcode?
The inventor of the UPC barcode is George J. Laurer. In 1971, while Mr. Laurer was an employee with IBM, he was assigned the task "to design the best code and symbol suitable for the grocery industry". In 1973, Mr. Laurer's UPC barcode entered the world, and the rest is history.
On Mr. Laurer's web site, he has a "Questions" page, where he answers various questions about the UPC barcode. On the "Questions" page, Mr. Laurer answers the "666" question, as follows:

Question #8 - Rumor has it that the lines (left, middle, and right) that protrude below the U.P.C. code are the numbers 6,6,6... and that this is the international money code. I typed a code with all sixes and this seems to be true. At least they all resemble sixes. What's up with that?
Answer- Yes, they do RESEMBLE the code for a six. ...​

And just to clarify I had not intended to represent the barcode as the "mark" of the beast, for I believe that this is actually a Palm Scan as confirmed by the "right hand", and the retinal scan as confirmed by the forehead.


Thanks for your further investigation, and sharing your results.


BibleScribe

 

[veteran]

There's more...

Revelation 13:1:
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revelation 13:2:
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Many have found this to be a Spiritual Metaphor for a modern day Roman Empire and I will not nor can I debate it being something else. We see that the sea is used to represent a multitude of people and using that example it is easy to see Satan´s man rising up to gain power. Some have been so bold as to proclaim this empire being composed of the countries of the European Union, I´m not at all certain of that. The Roman Empire consisted of nations from all of the known world and I tend to be more inclusive in my assessment of this reconstitution of the empire.

More inclusive is what Rev.13:2 suggests also, since it refers us back to the Book of Daniel with those animal symbols put for beast kingdoms Daniel was given to see. And per Daniel, those previous beast kingdoms covered the then known civilized world. Thus the EU could only be a portion of the coming Rev.13:1 world beast kingdom.

The documented evidence of plans for a one-world system has long been public, even before I was born and even before my parents were born in the late 1920's. U.S. President Woodrow Wilson's right-hand man in the White House, Col. Mandel House, wrote a novel called Phillip Drew: Administrator to propose reasoning for establishing a one-world government. It was his rebuttal in fiction form to Congress and the American people for their refusing to join the League of Nations globalist organization of that time. From that era to today, there's been a steady path towards one world government when the U.S. signed the United Nations Charter in the late 1940's in San Francisco under representation of Algier Hiss of the U.S. State Dept., a later discovered Soviet spy.

Revelation 13:3:
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

It is wonderful, the method and the manner of God´s use of words. I have seen several interpretations of this one scripture and none of the convince me of their being the one explanation.

Rev.13:12 goes with that verse, as does Rev.17:9 and Rev.13:1 about the seven heads. A deadly wound is to occur upon one... of the seven heads of the world beast system of Rev.13:1. Christ said the seven heads represent seven mountains per Rev.17:9. A second beast in Rev.13:11-12 appears, exercising all the power of the 1st beast of Rev.13:1 whose deadly wound was healed. With Rev.13:2 referring to the historical beast kingdoms of Daniel 7, we know the 1st beast of Rev.13:1 is about a world system.

With all those Biblical facts put together, it reveals the 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 has something to do with healing the deadly wound upon one of the seven heads of the 1st beast world system.

Revelation 13:4:
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

It is important to remember, the Beast has just shone up on the radar and God has promised a peace that will be unparalleled for the first three and one half years, and this man will appear to be the author of that peace. Suddenly Satan and the Beast will be put up as God´s.

At this point in Rev.13, only the 1st beast (a kingdom) has been described in relation to the beast kingdom types given in Dan.7. The dragon as the 2nd beast isn't revealed until Rev.13:11 forward. 1st beast = a kingdom; 2nd beast = an entity or person. The first phrase of that Rev.13:4 verse is very important; we're to note the whole world (picked up from verse 3) will worship that dragon. There's only one definition in God's Word for who that dragon is; it's Satan himself per Rev.12:9 and 20:2. So that is about one world worship of Lucifer.

Revelation 13:5:
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Revelation 13:6:
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Revelation 13:7:
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Revelation 13:8:
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:9:
If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Many take this to show that the Church is not raptured until the first three and a half years are completed and I, being Pretrib, do not argue with them. You see, this is one of those secondary issues and in no manor affects our mission as described in the Great Commission. (Matt. 28:18-20) It is my position that, much like in the Left Behind series, there will be Laymen, Deacons and even Pastors that were not committed, whole heartedly, and they will finally get it! Life for these later Christians will be pure persecution. All of the Lost will be out to slay them, along with the Two Witness´.

I don't want to argue either, but I completely disagree. Pastors and deacons that have fallen away today won't be making a 'stand' for Christ Jesus in that time, they will instead fall away to worship Lucifer along with the rest of the world. The only ones to be persecuted in that future time will be Christ's faithful saints who wait for His second coming. I don't mean any such idea as 'tribulation saints' that only come to Christ during the tribulation either. I mean Christian believers who exist right now, prepared by Christ to make that stand in the evil day, having put on the Gospel Armour ready to give His Witness along with God's two witnesses He sends. This is why Jesus told His servants to not premeditate what to say in that 'hour' of being delivered up, for The Holy Spirit will speak through those of His saints delivered up during the tribulation. That does not reveal any idea of lost or fallen away Christians, but servants of Christ prepared to do spiritual battle. Understanding that we are to make a stand in Christ Jesus during that time instead seeking to flee is very important.

Revelation 13:10:
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

This verse goes with the previous Rev.13:5-9 verses. In that time, some brethren will be led away captive (delivered up for Christ), and others thinking to be able to fight against the beast system will die by trying to take up literal arms against it. Because of the times, Christ warns His servants to have patience in that hour, and keep the Faith. It's to be a spiritual battle, not a physical one is why.

Revelation 13:11:
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

John is given to see a 2nd Beast. This time coming out of the earth instead of the sea. Having two horns 'like' a lamb is pointing to an imposter role, trying to mask who he really is. But his speaking as a dragon reveals to Christ's saints who he really is.

Revelation 13:12:
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Here's the verse about the deadly wound to one of the heads of the 1st Beast world system with seven heads. This 2nd Beast, the dragon (Satan), will exercise all the power of the 1st Beast world system.

Revelation 13:13:
And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Revelation 13:14:
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

That is the same kind of miracle working of great wonders and signs which Christ described in Matt.24:23-28 and Paul in 2 Thess.2. It's the working of the 2nd Beast, the dragon.

Revelation 13:15:
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Revelation 13:16:
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Now enters the imitator of God. I take it that the world will see this one as the ultimate peace giver and will throw open their arms to welcome him into their, very, hearts. I find it important to note, here, that the Mark is issued and nowhere before the Beasts take over is it given. Many fear the Chip that, today, is being injected into our animals and the children of the Upper Class, all over the world. All of the Banks are calling for this chip to be given to all of us, but this is not the mark. (My opinion.) There is reason to fear this chip but for the time being, at least, the Mark of the Beast is the least of the reasons.

All of our Bank Records, Criminal Records and Medical Records are accessed through this chip and still, these are not as dangerous as the primary reason to distrust the chip. These chips are read because they have an RF Signal. RF is short for Radio Frequency. Therefore the chip is locatable 365 days a year, 24/7. You cannot hide without cutting the chip out of your body.

Revelation 13:17:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I associate willful worship and alliegance to that 1st and 2nd Beast as requirements to receive that 'mark of the beast'. It is associated with bowing in worship per Rev.13:15, with how it's administered only per the Rev.13:16 verse. Those who refuse to bow in worship and refuse that mark are simply to be killed per Rev.13:15. Just as with Daniel and his fellows when the king of Babylon had a golden idol image made of himself and commanded all to bow in worship to it at the sound of the psalter, those like Daniel and his brethren who refused were sentenced to death, but Christ saved them while destroying the king of Babylon's servants (Dan.3)

Revelation 13:18:
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Here we find an interesting point, every Bar Code, I´m instructed, begins with a six, ends with a six and directly in the middle, is a six. And I have no firm ground to make a statement about such but it is alarming to those that are close to the Church but have not committed.

The Greek for "count" (psephizo) refers to enumerating with stones pointing back to the Greek root 'psephos' which means a pebble. Thus the act... of counting with pebbles is part of the mystery. Revelation is the end Book of God's Word, with Genesis as the start Book. The very first idea of a 'mark' associated with man was with the mark God put upon Cain per Genesis. Discover what Cain's mark was and you'll discover what this mark is associated with the number 666. It's certainly not about a bar code; I can tell you that. It is given as a 'time' recognition marker for that 2nd beast the dragon.