Roe V. Wade

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Jim B

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If a country isn't turning socialist it is turning facist, or islamic.

The American experiment is a failure because liberty alone has no spiritual defence when God is removed.

"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." Galatians 5:1
 

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If a country isn't turning socialist it is turning facist, or islamic.

The American experiment is a failure because liberty alone has no spiritual defence when God is removed.

Assuming you're in the US, why not move if it's such a failure? Why not move to Russia or Venezuela?

BTW, there are many countries that aren't socialist, fascistic, or Islamic.
 

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Actually President Trump ran under the Republican party. Politicians are allowed to be partisan.

I heard she gave lighter sentences to pedophiles than recommended. This doesn't show partisanship, unless one wants to make the argument that democrats were pro-pedophilia at that time. Give it some time and they will be fully.

The explaination I have for such rulings is that democrats are the injustice party. Condemning the innocent (abortion) and excusing the guilty (death penalty).

Your "explaination" is nonsense.
 

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The verses I quoted imply Jesus lacked moral authority to judge. No one said IF he judged his judgement would not be righteous.

The question is why didn't he judge? In today's legal parlance, he lacked jurisdiction. Furthermore, he knew he lacked the moral authority of jurisdiction and therefore, refrained from judging.

Jesus "lacked moral authority"? Jesus "lacked jurisdiction"? Jesus "refrained from judging"? Do you call yourself a Christian? You sure don't sound like one!
 
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Assuming you're in the US, why not move if it's such a failure? Why not move to Russia or Venezuela?

BTW, there are many countries that aren't socialist, fascistic, or Islamic.
Add full on communist to the list as well.

Everyone that wants to abolish the consitution and the republic can leave instead.
 
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Jesus "lacked moral authority"? Jesus "lacked jurisdiction"? Jesus "refrained from judging"? Do you call yourself a Christian? You sure don't sound like one!
Other than offending your sensibilities, my explanation is sound. Since you disagree, what is your explanation for why Jesus refrained from judging between the inheritance dispute of the brothers and the adulteress?

I guess we are so opinionated these days, we automatically think if we can judge, we ought to. Our lord modeled restraint in judgment for good reason - he was not authorized to judge that particular case.

What offends you about this and what does your offense have to do with the OP?
 

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Chapter and verse.

Isaiah 7:14, correctly translated, describes a young woman. "The young woman will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." Stan B knows what he is writing about. When girls developed breasts and began menstruating they were considered to be marriageable women. It's only in modern industrial societies that marriage and child bearing are delayed.
 

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While I agree with you on ancient Jewish Culture, that is not the world that we live in today by any stretch of the imagination.

Tell that to the Jews. I don't know a single Jewish family that doesn't have their son/daughter Bar/Bas Mitzvah. And I know many Jewish families.

BTW, this has nothing to do with the OP.
 
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Referring to the young girls and marriages, pregnancy, etc. I'm fully aware of the Bar/Bas Mitzvahs.

Then you know that a Bar/Bas Mitzvah is when the person is considered an adult. In Biblical times that meant of marriageable age.
 
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Agreed brother, death penalty for abortionists, they are the worst killers of all for they kill God’s innocent.
We need to ratchet back the rhetoric just a bit. There are literally tens of thousands of pregnancies (out of MILLIONS) that result in the baby growing outside of the womb (in the mother’s abdominal cavity) that without an abortion (spontaneous or man-made) would result in the death of both the baby and the mother … one of the things that HISTORICALLY made death during pregnancy far more common than today.

To eliminate ALL ABORTION is neither practical nor desirable. It just needs to be returned to its place as an “emergency medical procedure” rather than a form of “birth control”. The root problem is MORAL rather than LEGAL, so the “fix” is SPIRITUAL rather than JUDICIAL/LEGISLATIVE.

Abortions are performed by “Obstetricians” … the same Doctors that deliver healthy babies by C-Section and perform those ultra-sound exams that allow us to see our children for the first time. Let’s not “kill them all”. :(
 

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Abortions are performed by “Obstetricians” … the same Doctors that deliver healthy babies by C-Section and perform those ultra-sound exams that allow us to see our children for the first time. Let’s not “kill them all”. :(
But not all obstetricians perform abortions either. Just something to think about.
 

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But not all obstetricians perform abortions either. Just something to think about.
I suspect that there are some that SPECIALIZE in abortions (working in clinics that crank out deaths), but I also suspect that few NEVER encounter a woman that requires it for medical reasons. Medical necessity may only be about 4% of abortions, but that is still 1 in 25. How many Obstetricians will not “beat the odds”?
 

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Yes it is, and Brandon just appointed the first Black and LGTB White House Press Secretary, tell me the Democrats aren’t evil?
And that is only the tip of the iceberg. She has been promoting irrational Trump-hatred and falsely calling him a racist, since that is sure to rouse hatred. She also worked for his impeachment. Trump is no racist, but racists Biden and Obama get a free pass because they are Communists.

Back to Roe v Wade, the Supreme Court has been betraying the Constitution, the country, and their oaths of office for a long time. So one should not be surprised about this leak, when the newest appointee to SCOTUS is being put there solely because (a) she is black, (b) she is a woman but cannot define "woman", (c) she loves pedophiles and pampers them , and (d) she is an extreme Leftist who will do anything to promote the Communist agenda. So this leaked opinion is actually telling us that SCOTUS failed to do its job in the first place by violating the Constitution, and the right to life, when they decided that murdering babies is OK. Especially if funded by taxpayer dollars.
 
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