Roe V. Wade

[reformed1689]

So glad to see that Roe is finally likely to be overturned. If this happens there will still be much work to be done but a lot of murders of innocent children will stop overnight in at least 20 states.

 

[JohnPaul]

So glad to see that Roe is finally likely to be overturned. If this happens there will still be much work to be done but a lot of murders of innocent children will stop overnight in at least 20 states.

I'm praying for it too, and the slaughtering of innocents will stop, many people are evil and Godless in today's society and out of control.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

God did kill David’s baby from Bath-Sheba because of David’s sins in that situation… (2 Samuel 12)

And King Jeroboam’s child as well (1 Kings 14).

Just saying.

I myself would not abort any of my children. But we don’t know everyone else’s situations. Only God knows.

Men shouldn’t meddle in the affairs of other people, even with this issue.

Let God be the judge.

 

[JohnPaul]

God did kill David’s baby from Bath-Sheba because of David’s sins in that situation… (2 Samuel 12)

And King Jeroboam’s child as well (1 Kings 14).

Just saying.

I myself would not abort any of my children. But we don’t know everyone else’s situations. Only God knows.

Men shouldn’t meddle in the affairs of other people, even with this issue.

Let God be the judge.

God can do whatever he wants, he giveth and he taketh, we may not.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

God can do whatever he wants, he giveth and he taketh, we may not.

Good point.

And “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment and “no murderer has eternal life abiding in him”.

Either way, they will face the judgment of God in the end. The fear of God would be a better deterrent than man’s law.

 

[JohnPaul]

Good point.

And “thou shalt not kill” is a commandment and “no murderer has eternal life abiding in him”.

Either way, they will face the judgment of God in the end. The fear of God would be a better deterrent than man’s law.

Thou shall not commit murder, there is a difference.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Thou shall not commit murder, there is a difference.

Not really.

Knowing the whole of scripture “kill” is understood as not to murder.

If you murder someone you have killed them! LOL!!!

Splitting hairs are we?

 

[JohnPaul]

Not really.

Knowing the whole of scripture “kill” is understood as not to murder.

Splitting hairs are we?

Murder is killing someone without reason, for self gain or for the simple pleasure of it, or recklessly, premeditated, you may Kill someone in self defense or one who has committed a heinous crime, hence the Death Penalty.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Murder is killing someone without reason, for self gain or for the simple pleasure of it, or recklessly, premeditated, you may Kill someone who has committed a crime, hence the Death Penalty.

splitting hairs man.

relax.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So glad to see that Roe is finally likely to be overturned. If this happens there will still be much work to be done but a lot of murders of innocent children will stop overnight in at least 20 states.

It will just go into the back rooms again. It won’t stop, it just won’t be reported. The world has no concern with Gods laws and it never will. You can try to force the world to live by Gods laws but it won’t work.

 

[Aunty Jane]

It will just go into the back rooms again. It won’t stop, it just won’t be reported. The world has no concern with Gods laws and it never will. You can try to force the world to live by Gods laws but it won’t work.

I have to agree with you here. Anti-abortion laws will not save innocent children because women will still seek abortion no matter what the law says. Back yard abortions used to mean that untrained people would perform abortions and actually put the mother’s life at risk as well. But today, it’s as simple as taking a pregnancy test at home and then taking a few pills and these would be readily available through unscrupulous people on the internet. It will just become another way for them to make money. They won’t care about the loss of life.

We have to allow people to choose their own course and God will judge them.
We cannot jump up and down about abortion and at the same time condone warfare over political squabbles which also results in loss of life. It is life itself that is precious to God.

It never ceases to amaze me that a doctor could go from performing an abortion in one room, then to try every means available to save the life of a premature baby in another, often of the same gestation. Such is the way the world sees life....and death. It means nothing to them.

 

[JohnPaul]

splitting hairs man.

relax.

Just telling it like it is.

 

[JohnPaul]

I have to agree with you here. Anti-abortion laws will not save innocent children because women will still seek abortion no matter what the law says. Back yard abortions used to mean that untrained people would perform abortions and actually put the mother’s life at risk as well. But today, it’s as simple as taking a pregnancy test at home and then taking a few pills and these would be readily available through unscrupulous people on the internet. It will just become another way for them to make money. They won’t care about the loss of life.

We have to allow people to choose their own course and God will judge them.
We cannot jump up and down about abortion and at the same time condone warfare over political squabbles which also results in loss of life. It is life itself that is precious to God.

It never ceases to amaze me that a doctor could go from performing an abortion in one room, then to try every means available to save the life of a premature baby in another, often of the same gestation. Such is the way the world sees life....and death. It means nothing to them.

I have to disagree Aunty Jane, those caught performing illegal abortions will go to jail or die from infections most likely afterwards.

The morning after pill gave young ladies and women reason to run amok and have sex irresponsibly because they know all they have to do is pop a pill and kill Jehovah’s creation, some States even allow a woman to have an abortion a few months into her pregnancy, that’s plain evil.

If we have to allow people to make their own decisions, you think now it’s bad? Wait till they are allowed to make their own decisions, they’ll also want to legalize euthanasia, bestiality, marriage to your pet, the Bible was passed down from Jehovah for a reason, so that we have laws to abide by and not live and act like animals, you give people a choice in doing what they want, you’re looking at Armageddon and the destruction of mankind as we know it and God intended us to be.

 

[reformed1689]

Your comments on abortion demonstrate a total ignorance of the English language and Scripture; the mentality commonly associated with the anti-abortion cult who are devoted to forcing their mental aberrations upon everyone else.

First of all, abortion does not involve murder of a child. It is merely disposal of a fetus which is not a living being, and you cannot murder or take the the life of something that has never been alive a living being.

Second nowhere in the entire Bible is abortion forbidden, but in certain situations, demanded.

NO SIR! You are completely wrong on this. It is not an ignorance of the English language nor Scripture. Where does Scripture ever support abortion? In fact, it does the opposite. In fact, causing a woman to miscarriage resulting in the death of the child carried the death penalty. It is DISGUSTING that you do not call the unborn children and IGNORANT that you think they are not living beings. Scripture says otherwise. It ABSOLUTELY IS MURDER.

The fact that you support this heinous sin is astounding as no person who claims the name of Christ should EVER support the murder of babies. You need to REPENT and turn to GOD!

 

[JohnPaul]

NO SIR! You are completely wrong on this. It is not an ignorance of the English language nor Scripture. Where does Scripture ever support abortion? In fact, it does the opposite. In fact, causing a woman to miscarriage resulting in the death of the child carried the death penalty. It is DISGUSTING that you do not call the unborn children and IGNORANT that you think they are not living beings. Scripture says otherwise. It ABSOLUTELY IS MURDER.

The fact that you support this heinous sin is astounding as no person who claims the name of Christ should EVER support the murder of babies. You need to REPENT and turn to GOD!

Amen!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

In fact, causing a woman to miscarriage resulting in the death of the child carried the death penalty

No, you are wrong.

“If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.” (Exodus 21:22)

The only time execution came into play is if the woman died also:

“And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life” (Exodus 21:23)

There is some debate on what “her fruit depart” might mean, but I think it’s clear that hitting a pregnant woman will more than likely cause the death of the unborn child than cause a premature live birth.

 

[reformed1689]

No, you are wrong.

“If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.” (Exodus 21:22)

The only time execution came into play is if the woman died also:

“And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life” (Exodus 21:23)

There is some debate on what “her fruit depart” might mean, but I think it’s clear that hitting a pregnant woman will more than likely cause the death of the unborn child than cause a premature live birth.

If you read the Septuagint it makes clear it is talking about the baby, not the woman.

 

[Stan B]

NO SIR! You are completely wrong on this. It is not an ignorance of the English language nor Scripture. Where does Scripture ever support abortion? In fact, it does the opposite. In fact, causing a woman to miscarriage resulting in the death of the child carried the death penalty. It is DISGUSTING that you do not call the unborn children and IGNORANT that you think they are not living beings. Scripture says otherwise. It ABSOLUTELY IS MURDER.

The fact that you support this heinous sin is astounding as no person who claims the name of Christ should EVER support the murder of babies. You need to REPENT and turn to GOD!

The only one here to quote a single scrap of Scripture here is Michiah-Imala who stated "God did kill David’s baby from Bath-Sheba because of David’s sins in that situation… (2 Samuel 12)

And King Jeroboam’s child as well (1 Kings 14).

God's demand for abortion goes all the way back to the Books of the Law where an abortion drug was administered to an adultress:

"But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Numbers 5:20-22 NIV

God
Hoseas's prayer: Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

16 Ephraim is stricken, their root is dried up,
They will bear no fruit.
Even though they bear children,
I will slay the precious ones of their womb.
17 My God will cast them away
Because they have not listened to Him;
Hosea 9

The entity of the tribe of Ephraim was decimated by God-inflicted abortions. Ever notice that when the 144,000 are sealed (Rev 7), 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel, that Ephraim is not mentioned??

As for your mention of requiring the death penalty for someone who caused a woman to abort, try reading that again. If two men are in a fight, and one strikes the wife of the other, causing her to abort, then he must pay a fine to the woman's husband. But if any other mischief follow, then the law of an eye for an eye must be invoked.

As for a foetus in the womb, it is not a child nor a living being. that foetus does not become a living being, as with Adam, God breathes into it the Breath/Spirit of life. As God confirms "Until God has breathed into the fetus the breath/spirit of life, God says it is dead!

"For as the body apart from the spirit is dead" (James 2:26 )

All that is forming in the womb is our "earthly tent" created from dust, and when we die it returns to dust, upon which we enter our heavenly tent/dwelling.

You have made yourself a god, like the Pharisees did. Where God had slipped up they manufactured their own laws to burden the people. You are doing the same. What you are in essence saying, is that God is stoopid, and forgot to mention that abortion is a sin. And your mission in life is to fix God's mistakes by making up your own set of laws you figure God should have included in Scripture.

 

[reformed1689]

The only one here to quote a single scrap of Scripture here is Michiah-Imala who stated "God did kill David’s baby from Bath-Sheba because of David’s sins in that situation… (2 Samuel 12)

And King Jeroboam’s child as well (1 Kings 14).

God's demand for abortion goes all the way back to the Books of the Law where an abortion drug was administered to an adultress:

"But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Numbers 5:20-22 NIV

God
Hoseas's prayer: Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

16 Ephraim is stricken, their root is dried up,
They will bear no fruit.
Even though they bear children,
I will slay the precious ones of their womb.
17 My God will cast them away
Because they have not listened to Him;
Hosea 9

The entity of the tribe of Ephraim was decimated by God-inflicted abortions. Ever notice that when the 144,000 are sealed (Rev 7), 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel, that Ephraim is not mentioned??

As for your mention of requiring the death penalty for someone who caused a woman to abort, try reading that again. If two men are in a fight, and one strikes the wife of the other, causing her to abort, then he must pay a fine to the woman's husband. But if any other mischief follow, then the law of an eye for an eye must be invoked.

As for a foetus in the womb, it is not a child nor a living being. that foetus does not become a living being, as with Adam, God breathes into it the Breath/Spirit of life. As God confirms "Until God has breathed into the fetus the breath/spirit of life, God says it is dead!

"For as the body apart from the spirit is dead" (James 2:26 )

All that is forming in the womb is our "earthly tent" created from dust, and when we die it returns to dust, upon which we enter our heavenly tent/dwelling.

You have made yourself a god, like the Pharisees did. Where God had slipped up they manufactured their own laws to burden the people. You are doing the same. What you are in essence saying, is that God is stoopid, and forgot to mention that abortion is a sin. And your mission in life is to fix God's mistakes by making up your own set of laws you figure God should have included in Scripture.

Again, that is not abortion. That is GOD. So do you really think we can play God? No, it is not me making myself a god, it is YOU who are making yourself a god by putting yourself in place of God. You are acting of the devil.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You are acting of the devil.

Whoa.

That’s over the top I think.