ROMANS: THE GIFT OF GOD

[Doug]

Romans 5:18 KJV - 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

Justification unto eternal life is a free gift by grace through the redemption of Christ Jesus.

Salvation is by grace; grace is not of ourselves; grace is the gift of God:

Ephesians 2:8 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Romans 3:24 KJV - Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Corinthians 9:15 KJV - Thanks [be] unto God for his unspeakable gift.

 

[DNB]

Romans 5:18 KJV - 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

Justification unto eternal life is a free gift by grace through the redemption of Christ Jesus.

Salvation is by grace; grace is not of ourselves; grace is the gift of God:

Ephesians 2:8 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Romans 3:24 KJV - Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Corinthians 9:15 KJV - Thanks [be] unto God for his unspeakable gift.

Yes, I think that sometimes we don't appreciate how lost that we all were, especially in a world that has desensitized us so much in knowing what is right and wrong, holy and abominable.
The Levitical Law enlightened us quite a bit to the austerity of righteousness, and the constant vigilance required in refraining from sin, but it is still easy to take the Grace of God for granted, I believe. Not to mention just the salvation from eternal death, but what He has in store for us is both ineffable and unfathomable.

The only man ever to fulfill God's law of righteousness is Jesus Christ, because he loved God with all his heart, mind and soul, and loved his neighbour as himself. I don't think that there is a single person on the Christian forum, that has ever come close to attaining to the same disposition as Christ, irrespective of how feasible and incumbent it is upon us all.

God's Grace is beyond our appreciation and gratitude.

 

[101G]

Addressing the OP

one thing for sure about God's salvation in his grace, his not an, as the expression goes, "Indian giver". when he give it to you, it's yours.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[brightfame52]

doug

Romans 5:18 KJV - 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

Do all men without exception have this free gift come upon them ?

 

[Doug]

doug



Do all men without exception have this free gift come upon them ?

Yes this verse says all:
Romans 5:18 KJV - Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

But it has to be to those who believe:
1 Timothy 4:10 KJV - For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
Romans 3:22 KJV - Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

 

[brightfame52]

Yes this verse says all:
Romans 5:18 KJV - Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

But it has to be to those who believe:
1 Timothy 4:10 KJV - For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
Romans 3:22 KJV - Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Thats inconsistent. What did man do for condemnation to come upon them by the offence of one ?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Thats inconsistent. What did man do for condemnation to come upon them by the offence of one ?

Romans 5:12–Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all mankind, because all sinned—

 

[Doug]

Thats inconsistent. What did man do for condemnation to come upon them by the offence of one ?

Romans 5:12 KJV - 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

 

[brightfame52]

Romans 5:12 KJV - 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Cat got your tongue

 

[justbyfaith]

Romans 5:18 KJV - 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

Do all men without exception have this free gift come upon them ?

Yes, the offer of the free gift is extended to all men without exception.

And yet, in saying this I am not preaching Universalism.

How can that be?

Because the offer must be received or else it is not received.

Nevertheless, the offer of the free gift came upon all men (without exception).

Period.

 

[brightfame52]

Romans 5:18 KJV - 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.



Yes, the offer of the free gift is extended to all men without exception.

And yet, in saying this I am not preaching Universalism.

How can that be?

Because the offer must be received or else it is not received.

Nevertheless, the offer of the free gift came upon all men (without exception).

Period.

Nothing about no offer in Rom 5:18 !

 

[justbyfaith]

Nothing about no offer in Rom 5:18 !

If it is not an offer in Romans 5:18 then you have Universalism as a doctrine....not a good idea.

 

[marks]

Thats inconsistent. What did man do for condemnation to come upon them by the offence of one ?

Mankind was corrupted while in Adam by Adam's sin. There is a tendency to think we are all individually responsible for our own destinies. The reality is that we share the destiny of the one we are a part of, whether Adam, or Christ.

Much love!

 

[brightfame52]

If it is not an offer in Romans 5:18 then you have Universalism as a doctrine....not a good idea.

Its not a offer its not universalism. Does Rom 5:18 use then word offer ?

Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment was offered all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift was offered all men unto justification of life.

 

[brightfame52]

Mankind was corrupted while in Adam by Adam's sin. There is a tendency to think we are all individually responsible for our own destinies. The reality is that we share the destiny of the one we are a part of, whether Adam, or Christ.

Much love!

Ok men were justified while in Christ by Christs obedience.

Just like its reiterated in Vs 19
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The all in Vs 18 are the Many in Vs 19

 

[justbyfaith]

Its not a offer its not universalism. Does Rom 5:18 use then word offer ?

Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment was offered all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift was offered all men unto justification of life.

The words "the free gift" are in italics; why wouldn't you also throw in "the offer of" in there in italics?

Rom 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one <the offer of> the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

It means the same without what I have added.

Because a free gift is offered and can either be received or rejected; and that is the nature of every free gift that was ever given.

What about you, @brightfame52? Have you received the free gift that has been offered unto you? (a rhetorical question since I know about your rule; but it bears mentioning that you refuse to answer such a question).

 

[marks]

The words "the free gift" are in italics; why wouldn't you also throw in "the offer of" in there in italics?

Rom 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one <the offer of> the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

It means the same without what I have added.

Because a free gift is offered and can either be received or rejected; and that is the nature of every free gift that was ever given.

I wouldn't be so quick to add to the Scriptures like that.

God gave you a free gift of life. And you were alive. You were not required to "receive" the gift of life. You simply became alive.

Here, "the offer of" appears no where, however, "the free gift" is antecedant in the verses above, so we know from the text we are talking about a gift itself, and not merely the offer.

Here, this free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. This doesn't necessarily mean eternal life, but have you ever asked the question, why do we not die the first time we sin? Since sin kills? But God gives us grace, and allows us life, I think this is because Jesus died. So He allows us life, and the opportunity to repent.

Much love!

 

[justbyfaith]

justification unto life is indeed everlasting life (John 5:24 (kjv)).

And it should also be clear that a gift, when given, does not end up in the hands of him to whom it is given unless the person to whom it is given receives the gift.

I do not think that it is stretching the scriptures by any means to add <the offer of> in italics in that verse.

 

[brightfame52]

The words "the free gift" are in italics; why wouldn't you also throw in "the offer of" in there in italics?

Rom 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one <the offer of> the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

It means the same without what I have added.

Because a free gift is offered and can either be received or rejected; and that is the nature of every free gift that was ever given.

What about you, @brightfame52? Have you received the free gift that has been offered unto you? (a rhetorical question since I know about your rule; but it bears mentioning that you refuse to answer such a question).

Sounds deceitful

 

[justbyfaith]

Sounds deceitful

It is not.