UppsalaDragby
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No you don't understand the Gospel phoneman because if you did you would not contradict the doctrine of the New Covenant. You would also be able to defend your doctrine based on what scripture says, rather than making claims that go beyond what is written. Similarly you would be able to support your claims according to the principle of two or three witnesses. And you would be able to answer the questions I have for you without being evasive all the time. You would use scripture rather than SDA arguments, which are very easily refuted, in discussions like this. You would not stubbornly cling on to a doctrine that breaks scripture, and you would not disobey scripture.Phoneman777 said:I fully understand the Gospel, which is not the false version which redefines what it means to "love" others. It is a distorted, fragmented version.
- The True Gospel has Jesus as both Savior Who covers our sin AND our Lord to be obeyed.
- The True Gospel does not redefine "love" to include committing sin - it says the opposite: "He that hateth his brother is a murderer, and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him," a clear reference to the 6th Commandment.
- The True Gospel is not a covering for the highest form of blasphemy which is claiming that God's love will cover the sin from which I refuse to turn and repent. That is a false covering of our own devising, and "he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whosoever confesseth AND forsaketh his sin shall have mercy."
If you understood the Gospel as you claiim, then you would realize that the Gospel involves throwing the burden of keeping the standard of righteousness God demands on Christ, instead of lying to yourself, and others, that you are keeping it. We ARE to pursue morality, but we fall short of it. But rather than giving us commandment that condemn, we have Christ Jesus to FULFIL our failures.
Nowhere does the Gospel teach us that we are under the 10 commandments. Nowhere does it say that they were separate from the Mosaic Covenant. Nowhere does scripture indicate that moral issues, and having the GOAL of increasing one's morality, is equivalent with being under the 10 commandments. Nowhere does scripture indicate that putting oneself under a list of enumerated commandments has any positive effect on one's morality.
All of these things you ignore, just as all of these things can be verified through scripture. Yet you cower away from facing these facts!
I have already dealt with these kinds of strawmen comments. Why are you repeating them again? Let's not speak PAST each other. Or is that your tactics here?•The True Gospel has Jesus as both Savior Who covers our sin AND our Lord to be obeyed.
•The True Gospel does not redefine "love" to include committing sin - it says the opposite: "He that hateth his brother is a murderer, and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him," a clear reference to the 6th Commandment.
•The True Gospel is not a covering for the highest form of blasphemy which is claiming that God's love will cover the sin from which I refuse to turn and repent. That is a false covering of our own devising, and "he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whosoever confesseth AND forsaketh his sin shall have mercy."