Sabbath or Sunday? What did Jesus teach & show in scripture?

[1stCenturyLady]

Hebrews 4:9 - So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. (NASB) Notice that the Greek word "sabbatismos" here is used no where else in the Bible. Amazing that sabbatarians would suggest that this is the word for "keeping the weekly sabbath" when it is never used anywhere else in the Bible.

W. E. Vine, Greek Dictionary points out:

Sabbath rest (4520) (sabbatismos from sabbatízo = keep the Sabbath) literally means a keeping of a sabbath or a keeping of days of rest. It is used in this passage not in the literal sense (meaning to keep a specific day, the "Sabbath" day) but to describe a period of rest for God’s people which is modeled after and is a fulfillment of the traditional Sabbath.

SABBATISMOS a Sabbath-keeping, is used in Heb. 4:9, R.V., "a Sabbath rest," A.V. marg., "a keeping of a Sabbath" (akin to sabbatizoµ, to keep the Sabbath, used, e.g., in Ex. 16:30, not in the N.T.); here the Sabbath-keeping is the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this Sabbath rest is the rest of God Himself, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into divine “rest,” that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words)

SermonIndex.net Audio Sermons - Sermon Index

Yes, to enter into God's rest is called abiding in Jesus. This is the spirit of the law's Sabbath day. When are we to enter into God's rest? Whenever it is "Today."

 

[1stCenturyLady]

It's never going to work, Big Boy.

.

Hey Barn, I've been going to different churches on weekends. I went to the SDA church last Saturday. I've been invited to come back next week-end because it is pot luck!!!

 

[BarneyFife]

Hey Barn, I've been going to different churches on weekends. I went to the SDA church last Saturday. I've been invited to come back next week-end because it is pot luck!!!

Hiya, Sis!

Aw, man, maybe you'll get lucky and get some Special K loaf with that barbeque glaze on top or some Esau's Pottage or something! Potlucks are the bomb! I cheat on potluck Sabbaths. I don't even bother asking what things are made of. Whatever gets past the ladies in the kitchen is good enough for me. I remember one time this older fella brought in some Fordhook Lima beans that he'd harvested from his daughter's house in upstate New York. I never thought I'd be tempted to binge on Lima beans! That was just weird.

We have potlucks on the 1st and 3rd Sabbaths of every month, and our sister church has them every Sabbath. Their church grows like crazy - lol. My old church only did them once a month. I like the socializing more than the food, I think.

I just made some sour cream from raw cashews and sunflower seeds. My wife and my daughter really like it and they're both starting to get high HgbA1C results, so they're gonna hafta watch it! I tried to tell 'em, but they wouldn't listen.

Hope you're doing well.


.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Yes, to enter into God's rest is called abiding in Jesus. This is the spirit of the law's Sabbath day. When are we to enter into God's rest? Whenever it is "Today."

No, the SDA religion falsely claims only Saturdays are holy unto the Lord... not any of the other days.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

My wife and my daughter really like it and they're both starting to get high HgbA1C results

Hi Bro, I'm confused. What is wrong with Fordhook Lima beans? I love lima beans as long as they are baby limas.

My mother's church in Illinois has pot luck every Sabbath. One of the ladies makes choplets from scratch!!!! I got the recipe from her. I haven't made them since I left Arizona, but they came out just like the canned. This generation wouldn't want them as these choplets is made with EXTRA glutton! LOL

I think this one has pot lucks every first and third Sabbath.

 

[BarneyFife]

Hi Bro, I'm confused. What is wrong with Fordhook Lima beans? I love lima beans as long as they are baby limas.

You're not confused, but I am, I guess. I mustn't have been clear.

I could barely stop eating them! And, of course, they're both good and good for you!

My wife and daughter really like the nut-based sour cream, and it's one of the not-too-many healthy things they really like.

The Worthington veggie burger in a can is my favorite. I can eat the stuff right out of the can cold with a spoon. Gross, huh?


.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You're not confused, but I am, I guess. I mustn't have been clear.

I could barely stop eating them! And, of course, they're both good and good for you!

My wife and daughter really like the nut-based sour cream, and it's one of the not-too-many healthy things they really like.

The Worthington veggie burger in a can is my favorite. I can eat the stuff right out of the can cold with a spoon. Gross, huh?


.

What I loved right out of the can were the chicken substitute. I can't remember what they are called. I'm thinking Chicklets, but that may be a gum that came in a box. I am having computer problems and will be out of commission for a bit. I think I picked up a virus.

 

[BarneyFife]

I am having computer problems and will be out of commission for a bit. I think I picked up a virus.

Oh, no, Sis!

What I loved right out of the can were the chicken substitute. I can't remember what they are called. I'm thinking Chicklets, but that may be a gum that came in a box.

FriChik, Diced Chik?


.

 

[Sheila3]

We cannot trust the traditions of men on the Sabbath vs. Sunday issue, for this is not safe, nor in just mere human opinions. Instead we need to know what scripture actually says, and above all, what Jesus Christ Himself taught, so we accept His teaching as our final authority.

Jesus Christ is “Lord even of the Sabbath day” as the Creator. Jesus said, “For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath day.” Matthew 12:8. By identifying Himself as “Lord even of the Sabbath day,” Jesus of was showing that He is the Creator, who from the beginning created Earth in six days, and rested on the seventh day. And the New Testament makes clear that Jesus is the Creator...

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
And of Jesus..
John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Colossians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

So scripture makes clear Jesus Christ is our Creator and also gave us the Sabbath for man not just the Jews.

Mark 2:27
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:


Not only did Jesus create the Sabbath but He makes clear it was the seventh day and Holy...
Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Even before the tablets of stone at Mt Sinai....
Exodus 16:23
And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

Now you can check the scriptures and it will make clear the Sabbath is on Saturday, the "seventh day of the week", while Sunday is "the first day of the week". Jesus Christ regularly kept the Sabbath, taught much about the Sabbath, and clearly stated that He is Lord even of the "Sabbath day"...
Matthew 12:8
For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Jesus Christ never mentioned "the first day of the week" nor taught nothing about it. The Sabbath continued long after the cross and was kept in the book of Acts by both Jews and Gentiles, as it clearly show. There is no biblical authorization for the change of the Bible Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. God made the Sabbath at the beginning of the world before any Jews existed, to be a blessing to all mankind. And even more importantly, it is a special sign that Jesus Christ is the true Creator of heaven and earth and Lord of the Sabbath.

When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. Luke 4:16 "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read.¨

The Ten Commandments were not part of Moses’ ceremonial law as scripture clearly shows and there was a clear distinction made between the Commandments and that of Moses’ book of the law. The understanding of the Law was given to man way before Moses as scripture makes clear...
Genesis 26:5
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, Jesus carefully taught how it should be observed.
Matthew 12:1-13
1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

The New Testament alone mentions the Sabbath day no less than 84 times and never once is there a change of the Sabbath day to any other, nor was it abolished.

Jesus Christ said to keep the commandments:
"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matthew 19:16-17

Jesus never said that the Sabbath would change even after His death:
"But pray ye that your flight be not in winter, neither on the Sabbath day." Matthew 24:20.

Jesus asked his disciples to pray that in the flight from the doomed city of Jerusalem they would not have to flee on the Sabbath day. This flight took place in 70 A.D, which was 40 years after the Cross. He kept the seventh day as the Sabbath from Creation and in His life on earth, and Christ says that if we love Him, to keep the Commandments.
The Sabbath is a special day to focus on Jesus Christ our Maker: Jesus is “the Lord” who made the world in six days, and “rested on the seventh day.” Thus the Sabbath is a special day to focus on the Jesus Christ as the Creator of all things..

The Sabbath was indeed established by God to be the seventh day which by the Roman calendar, the calendar we use which would make it a Saturday.

Ten Commandments tells us to remember it. How can one say the Sabbath is just for the hebrew/israelites not for the church, how can one separate the Ten Commandments decide which to observe and which not to_ if the Ten Commandments are accepted by the church then that includes the Sabbath.

There are those that are theorizing / beginning to believe that between Constantine and the first churches of the Roman empire got it wrong and Yeshua actually rose on the Sabbath. Constantine made it law to worship on the first day, Sundays, the church accepted it and gave reason that Jesus rose on a Sunday is a grave possibility.

Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy ___ he knew what would happen to the Sabbath.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Ten Commandments tells us to remember it.

And in the New Covenant... we still enter in to His REST but it's not just one day a week as some suppose

 

[Hobie]

What I loved right out of the can were the chicken substitute. I can't remember what they are called. I'm thinking Chicklets, but that may be a gum that came in a box. I am having computer problems and will be out of commission for a bit. I think I picked up a virus.

Its 'FriChick', I have to keep my wife away from it as its like candy.....

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Its 'FriChick', I have to keep my wife away from it as its like candy.....

I know how she feels. I eat them right out of the can. Haven't had them for years.

 

[Hobie]

And in the New Covenant... we still enter in to His REST but it's not just one day a week as some suppose

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

 

[Hobie]

I know how she feels. I eat them right out of the can. Haven't had them for years.

She does too.. and I am afraid to get my hand anywhere near....

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

It's always odd to see people clinging to the old testament and rejecting what the New Testament says about the LAW...

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


Law of Christ
In Galatians, Paul argues vigorously that the law given at Sinai makes no claim on those who believe in Christ, whether Gentile or Jew ( 2:15-21 ; Galatians 3:10-14 Galatians 3:23-26 ; 4:4-5 ; 4:21-5:6).

He then appeals to the Galatians to engage in ethical behavior by walking in the Spirit ( 5:16 Galatians 16 ), being lead by the Spirit ( 5:18 ), and fulfilling "the law of Christ" (ho nomos tou Christou) through bearing one another's burdens ( 6:2 ). In 1 Corinthians 9 Paul demonstrates how Christians should, out of love for the weaker brother or sister, refrain from demanding their rights.

By way of illustration Paul says in verses 19-23 that he adopts certain Jewish customs when among Jews, although he is not under the Jewish law, and that he adopts some Gentile customs when among Gentiles, although he is not without the law of God but rather "in the law of Christ" (ennomos Christou).

It seems fairly clear from these two texts that Paul uses the phrase to mean something other than the law given to Israel at Sinai and considered by most Jews to be their special possession.

Help is found in the prophets. In Isaiah 42:1-4 we read that God's chosen servant will one day establish justice throughout the earth and that "the coastlands will wait expectantly for His law" (NASB). If we take this passage to refer to the Messiah, then we could paraphrase it by saying that the Christ, when he comes, will teach God's law to the Gentiles ("the coastlands"). Jeremiah 31:31-34 similarly predicts the coming of a time in which disobedient Israel will receive a new covenant, consisting of a law written on the heart and therefore obeyed (cf. Ezek 36:26-27 ).

Jesus' teaching, although standing in continuity with the law given at Sinai, nevertheless sovereignly fashions a new law. In some instances Jesus sharpens commandments ( Matt 5:17-48 ) and in others considers them obsolete ( Mark 7:17-19 ). On one occasion, having been asked to identify the greatest commandment, Jesus concurs with the Jewish wisdom of his time ( Mark 12:32-33 ) that the greatest commandments are to love God supremely and to love one's neighbor as oneself ( Mark 12:28-31 ). He breaks with tradition, however, by defining the term "neighbor" to mean even the despised Samaritan ( Luke 10:29-37 ).

Paul believed that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ marked the beginning point of God's new covenant ( 2 Cor 3:1-18 ; Gal 4:21-31 ; cf. Rom 8:2 ). Like Isaiah, he believed that this covenant included the Gentiles ( Gal 3:7-20 ), and like Jeremiah he believed that it offered Israel a remedy for the curse that the old Sinaitic covenant pronounced on Israel's disobedience ( Gal 3:10-13 ).

In light of this, Paul may have understood the teaching of Christ as a new law. If so, then the correspondence between the ethical teaching of Jesus and Paul on many points (e.g., 1 Cor 7:10-11 / Mark 10:2-9 ; 1 Cor 9:14 / Luke 10:7 ; Rom 14:1-23 / Mark 7:18-19 ) is a matter of Paul's intention rather than happy accident. Paul's own admonition to fulfill the law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens provides both a pithy restatement of Jesus' summary of the law and an indication that Jesus' teaching fulfills prophetic expectations.

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Sabbath or Sunday? What did Jesus teach & show in scripture?​

Scripture answers: Matthew 27:62 to 28:4

Watch the honest and the dishonest react...

The honest do NOT FORCE DIVISION AND CHANGE; the dishonest FAIL NOT TO FORCE DIVISION AND CHANGE...

watch...

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

es, to enter into God's rest is called abiding in Jesus. This is the spirit of the law's Sabbath day. When are we to enter into God's rest? Whenever it is "Today."

In other words, Whenever it is "Today" not Sabbath the Seventh Day GOD rested, GOD finished, GOD blessed, GOD hallowed, GOD commanded, "Remember the Sabbath Day I brought you up, out of, and in, and onto".
DO YOU ALSO MAKE THE SON OF MAN LORD ALSO OF THE SABBATH UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERLY?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

DO YOU ALSO MAKE THE SON OF MAN LORD ALSO OF THE SABBATH UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERLY?

Jesus is Lord over REST which is what sabbath means... He never told anybody to observe Saturday sabbath and He never corrected anybody for not keeping Saturday sabbath

Those that make an idol our of Saturday are in the ditch.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Jesus is Lord over REST which is what sabbath means... He never told anybody to observe Saturday sabbath and He never corrected anybody for not keeping Saturday sabbath

Those that make an idol our of Saturday are in the ditch.

Jesus is Lord over REST which is what sabbath means... incomprehensible syntax which is crap.

He never corrected anybody for not keeping Saturday sabbath... incorrigible meaningless logic which is more crap.

You make of your obsession with Saturday an idol. Which is the ultimate crap.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

And in the New Covenant... we still enter in to His REST but it's not just one day a week as some suppose

No one here except you BBJ, supposes His REST is just one day a week.