Salvation : Is Finished.

[Behold]

Let me know when you find a scripture that says… “Salvation is Jesus‘s finished work on the cross”.

Thats not a scripture, thats my quote. I wrote it.

So, let me explain it for the others as you'll never understand it, because you're a deceived Legalist.

Listen....On the Cross......Jesus said' it is "FINISHED"...

See that?

That is the "finished work of Jesus on the Cross".

What is Finished?

A.) Redemption.

 

[Behold]

• if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

And what if you are unable to speak?
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So, the way this works........regarding how to become a Christian..

A.) = our "Faith is accepted by God, as (Christ's imputed) Righteous" on the behalf of a BELIEVER.

"ALL who BELIEVE in Jesus, shall be saved".

The Believing, has to come first.........and then the confessing and the discipleship.

This BELIEVING is also expained in the NT as 'RECEIVING Christ" by Faith..
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Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— New Living Translation But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. English Standard Version But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, Berean Standard Bible But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— Berean Literal Bible But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to be children of God--to those believing in His name, King James Bible But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: New King James Version But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: New American Standard Bible But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name, NASB 1995 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, NASB 1977 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, Legacy Standard Bible But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, Amplified Bible But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the right [the authority, the privilege] to become children of God, that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) His name— Christian Standard Bible But to all who did receive him, he gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in his name, Holman Christian Standard Bible But to all who did receive Him, He gave them the right to be children of God, to those who believe in His name, American Standard Version But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name: Contemporary English Version Yet some people accepted him and put their faith in him. So he gave them the right to be the children of God. English Revised Version But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

 

[brightfame52]

Yes wherever we are gathered in His name He is there.

What does this have to do with a lost sheep who has strayed away from Jesus and is not gathered together with anyone in His name?


Jesus taught it requires people to go after lost sheep to convince them to return.



“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.
“Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. Matthew 18:12-17


The step by step process Jesus taught us to follow to go after a lost sheep.


Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’

And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.


But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.


The brother who refuses to hear the church after one, then two brothers have tried to convince the brother who refuses to repent of his sin, is to be considered as an outcast; a sinner, a heathen and no longer a member of the church.

You way off with a rabbit trail. Jesus finds all His Lost Sheep Ezk 34:6,11-12

My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.

For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.


As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Jesus is God the Great Shepherd of the Sheep

 

[Muna]

No, why ? I just stated to me you sound confused, duh

My first post agreed with yours, on both points (did you not even read it?) with the only exception of finishing off its context (you neglected to add) and adding that not all are Jesus sheep (as Jesus also said) and so if I am somehow confused how is it my fault (when you now admit that not all are Jesus sheep). Wouldn't your own confusion be adding to my own so-called confusion about your replies, seeing you differed with something you now seem to be in agreement with?

Readressing the same post would best serve to clarify your own confusion (which you call mine).

 

[JLB]

Thats not a scripture, thats my quote. I wrote it.

‘exactly. I quoted you word for word.

Now please show me the scripture that says… “Salvation is Jesus‘s finished work on the cross”.

 

[Behold]

Now please show me the scripture that says… “Salvation is Jesus‘s finished work on the cross”.

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Thats not a scripture, thats my quote. I wrote it, as i told you last time.

Now, Ive shown you that Jesus said He finished SALVATION on the Cross.

Jesus said "it is FINISHED".

Ive shown you that this means that "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".

Ive explained this to you a few times..... as "the finished work of Jesus on The Cross".

So, why are you not able to respond to this with an intellegent answer, as i should not have to post this to you 3 or 4 more times.

 

[JLB]

And what if you are unable to speak?
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So, the way this works........regarding how to become a Christian..

Please post the scripture that says people who can’t speak can’t be saved.



Each of us who are alive have a spirit man (an inner man) that can speak.


There is only one way to be saved.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9



For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.” Romans 10:13

 

[JLB]

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Thats not a scripture, thats my quote. I wrote it.

So, let me explain it for the others as you'll never understand it, because you're a deceived Legalist.

Listen....On the Cross......Jesus said' it is "FINISHED"...

See that?

That is the "finished work of Jesus on the Cross".

What is Finished?

A.) Redemption.

Sorry no scripture.

 

[Behold]

Each of us who are alive have a spirit man (an inner man) that can speak.


There is only one way to be saved.
For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.” Romans 10:13

Thank you for quoting me.
Feel free to do it more, now that you understand that you have to believe in Jesus, to be saved.

 

[JLB]

Thank you for quoting me.
Feel free to do it more, now that you understand that you have to believe in Jesus, to be saved.

I quoted your post to show your fallacy.

 

[Behold]

Sorry no scripture.

I posted scripture.

Ive shown you that Jesus said He finished SALVATION on the Cross.

= Jesus said "it is FINISHED"....

Ive show you that this means that "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".

Ive explained this as "the finished work of Jesus on The Cross", a few times.

So, why are you not able to respond to this with an intellegent answer, as i should not have to post this to you 3 or 4 more times.

 

[Behold]

I quoted your post to show your fallacy.

You've only proven that your english skills are not very good.
Nor is your comprehension.
Ive shown you that Jeuss said He finished SALVATION on the Cross.

This is "the finished WORK of JESUS.......on THE Cross"

Understand yet @JLB?

NO ???????????????????

So, is this why are you not able to respond with an intellegent answer?

Did you want to repost about "confessing Christ' more?
or did you want to talk about "repenting" next?

 

[JLB]

You way off with a rabbit trail. Jesus finds all His Lost Sheep Ezk 34:6,11-12

My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.

For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.


As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Jesus is God the Great Shepherd of the Sheep

Yes when Jesus was on earth He did indeed seek to save that which was lost.


Now that he is seated at the right hand of God He has given us instructions as to how to turn those who become lost back to God.


“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.
“Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. Matthew 18:12-17


The step by step process Jesus taught us to follow to go after a lost sheep.


Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’

And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.


But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.


The brother who refuses to hear the church after one, then two brothers have tried to convince the brother who refuses to repent of his sin, is to be considered as an outcast; a sinner, a heathen and no longer a member of the church.

 

[JLB]

I posted scripture.

Ive shown you that Jesus said He finished SALVATION on the Cross.

= Jesus said "it is FINISHED"....

Ive show you that this means that "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".

Ive explained this as "the finished work of Jesus on The Cross", a few times.

So, why are you not able to respond to this with an intellegent answer, as i should not have to post this to you 3 or 4 more times.

‘You posted no scripture

 

[Behold]

The brother who refuses to hear the church after one,

Ridiculous.
You dont know what you are talking about, as usual.

Listen, Sinners are brought to Christ by hearing the Gospel.......and "faith come by hearing".

That has nothing NOTHING to do with "hearing the Church". @JLB

 

[Behold]

‘You posted no scripture

I'll post it again.

Jesus said....from The Cross.........."IT is Finished".

See that?

= That is "the finished WORK of Jesus on The Cross"..

 

[brightfame52]

My first post agreed with yours, on both points (did you not even read it?) with the only exception of finishing off its context (you neglected to add) and adding that not all are Jesus sheep (as Jesus also said) and so if I am somehow confused how is it my fault (when you now admit that not all are Jesus sheep). Wouldn't your own confusion be adding to my own so-called confusion about your replies, seeing you differed with something you now seem to be in agreement with?

Readressing the same post would best serve to clarify your own confusion (which you call mine).

You still sound confused to me

 

[brightfame52]

@JLB

Yes when Jesus was on earth He did indeed seek to save that which was lost.

He did both, He saught them and saved them. Its finished

 

[Muna]

You still sound confused to me

Then why not explain your response to my post, if only to assist this poor confused soul of mine?

See what I mean, it would be such an easy feat for a clear minded and un-confused soul to do in service of their fellow man.

 

[Aunty Jane]

I'll post it again.

Jesus said....from The Cross.........."IT is Finished".

See that?

= That is "the finished WORK of Jesus on The Cross"..

No matter how many times you post anything.....it’s twisted nonsense. You think you cannot be wrong.
Jesus himself will be the one to show us all who is wrong, and it will be a rude shock to the majority. (Matt 7:13-13) It will be the “few” traveling the right road....not the confused “many” who are all ignorantly traveling the wrong road.

What was “finished” when Christ took his last breath? His earthly mission....successfully completed despite all attempts by the devil and his minions to distract him from his course.....the one he was sent to complete as a mortal human, to give his life as “the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world”.

Having successfully completed that assignment, Jesus “finished” what he had been sent to do.....and after his death and resurrection, he returned to “sit at the right hand” of his God and Father, (Psalm 110:1-2) to await the completion of the “Gentile Times”, outlined in Daniel’s prophesies. (Daniel ch 2)

Jesus was sent in the times of Roman domination, (the legs of Daniel’s dream image) but another world power was to come in the feet of the image that Nebuchadnezzar saw. Britain would rise from the ashes of Rome to dominate the world for centuries of conquest, and in the last days would ally herself with her estranged children and form a dual world power Anglo-America....the “king of the south” who is at odds with “the king of the north” and its allies in these end times.

These are the days of those last ruling powers and the time for God to bring in his Kingdom......it was to “crush and put an end” to all these warring nations, and replace them as man’s only ruling authority. (Daniel 2:44)

What did Jesus teach us to pray for?....for God’s Kingdom to “come” and for his will to “be done on earth as it is in heaven”....the kingdom “comes” but not in the way Christendom is expecting. God’s will can then be done “on earth as it is in heaven”.
Most entertain the belief that the earth is going to be destroyed, but the Bible does not say that. Like the days of Noah, it will be wicked humanity that will be destroyed and the survivors will continue to live on a cleansed earth, with every vestige of satan’s rulership destroyed forever.

We are living in the last days of this present world system, and only those who accept Christ’s sacrifice and continue to obey his teachings will make it through the the greatest tribulation in man’s history. (Matt 24:13) Endurance means never allowing ourselves to give in to sin. (Rom 7:14-23) Only God can give us the strength to resist sin.

All the “saints” will be with Jesus as he executes sentence on the “goats”, who bleat like sheep, but who worship the wrong god, and who are splintered into thousands of bickering denominations, who are disunited, but have no excuse for it. They will be gobsmacked at their rejection.... (Matt 7:21-23)...but Jesus tells them “I never knew you”....”never” means “not ever”.

The body of Christ is not dismembered with bits of him scattered all over Christendom. Nor it is located in one church in one geographical location any more. Christianity is a global religion that claims no nationality.

What is God seeing when he views things from his vantage point? Apostasy and disunity! Just as he did when Jesus walked the earth in the first century. God rescued his “remnant” from that apostate religious system....the ones who put faith in his son, but he abandoned his disobedient people, having completed his purpose in connection with them.

This is why John B could say to those wicked men....”Do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones. 10  The ax is already lying at the root of the trees. Every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Matt 3:9-10)

God’s promise to Abraham was now fulfilled, and with the conversion of Cornelius, the way was open for gentiles to become God’s children.
The end of God’s anger was seen when the Christians separated from the Jews and the tree was cut down and thrown into the fire. (Matt 23:37-39)

And this why Peter could say.....
“Now I truly understand that God is not partial, 35  but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” (Acts 10:34-35)

Christ will never walk this earth again because he has no need to....his mission was completed, and the place he prepared for his chosen ones in heaven is also now nearing full capacity, with the remaining ones of his elect still on earth to experience their transformation before Armageddon completes the “end times”.

Those alive at the time of Christ’s return will not have to “sleep” in death as the apostles and others had to. They will be taken directly to the heavenly realm to take up their positions. (1 Thess 4:13-17)

What you expect to take place will never happen. What the Bible says will take place cannot be altered.