Same sex marriage nation wide

[ATP]

Blood moon sign? Your thoughts.

 

[lforrest]

Just a sign of how Lawlessness is becoming prevalent.

 

[ATP]

Pretty big sign though.

 

[katabole]

Matthew 19:4 And He answered and said unto them, Have you not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh?

Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man take apart.

Jesus says 35 times in the New Testament, "It is written. Haven't you read?" Many have not read. Many others have read and have not believed what is written. Many believers have read and have not believed what is written all the while claiming to be believers. Some however have read and believed what is written. Humanity has taken apart what God has joined together.

I listened to Obama's speech today at the Charleston church on CNN. I must say, I found it interesting that he spoke about the evils of slavery, using the Bible to back up his claim it was wrong. Yet earlier this morning he was speaking about how same-sex marriage was good. Yet the same Bible he quoted from claims it is an abomination to God. In his words, "love is love". I do not know what Gospel he believes in but it is evidently based on selective interpretation of Scripture. I do not understand how anyone who claims to be a Christian can be happy for our brothers and sisters who are lost in this world of darkness, especially when the Bible is explicit both in the Old and New Testaments that homosexuals do not enter the kingdom of God. Love is not just love. Our Bible claims, "God is love." 1 John 4:8 And tough love is still love.

John 12:48 He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him on the last day.

Lets see how bold those who reject Christ and His Word today and do not repent will be on judgment day, when they stand before the righteous King and give account of their lives. They will all wish to die and won't be able to.

 

[aspen]

Not every citizen is a Christian and all citizens have rights. Now all citizens have the right to marry a same sex partner. I think it is going to save a lot of heartbreak for people who have been caught up in a marriage with a gay partner who is trying to pass.

 

[ATP]

Not every citizen is a Christian and all citizens have rights. Now all citizens have the right to marry a same sex partner. I think it is going to save a lot of heartbreak for people who have been caught up in a marriage with a gay partner who is trying to pass.

I honestly believe it's prophecy being fulfilled. In no way is this a good thing. The root of the sin is what needs to be dealt with.

 

[numenian]

I have just finished reading Romans13:1-8 again and wonder how to apply that to America today. Nero was Emperor, Rome was pagan, and persecutions had begun. Immorality and tyranny were rampant, a given. Little or no justice for the non-citizen, which was almost all Jews and Christians. Where is the justifiable outrage at the laws and practices of this governing authority? There is not even a lament about the circumsatnces and conditions under this oppressive and godless rule. Instead we get this: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

If we "resisteth" the power of SCOTUS in the matter of gay marriage, are we to receive damnation? As an aside, was the American Revolution against Great Britain, arguably far less tyrannical and not godless, a cause for damnation? I am not saying either is, just curious.

 

[Born_Again]

Eh, I will still sleep the same tonight. I am not shaken. This just says that we need to be more of a witness for Christ in these uncertain times. I don't know why anyone is so surprised. I mean who didn't see this coming. And... the root of this is not so same gender can legally be married because of Love or whatever they call it, it is about a legal document and tax status. Be real folks, stop flipping out. And even if it were a sign of end times, that's good! That means we are that much closer to going home. I'll take that over this troubled world any day.

 

[aspen]

I honestly believe it's prophecy being fulfilled. In no way is this a good thing. The root of the sin is what needs to be dealt with.

Sounds like a job for the Holy Spirit, to me.

 

[aspen]

I have just finished reading Romans13:1-8 again and wonder how to apply that to America today. Nero was Emperor, Rome was pagan, and persecutions had begun. Immorality and tyranny were rampant, a given. Little or no justice for the non-citizen, which was almost all Jews and Christians. Where is the justifiable outrage at the laws and practices of this governing authority? There is not even a lament about the circumsatnces and conditions under this oppressive and godless rule. Instead we get this: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

If we "resisteth" the power of SCOTUS in the matter of gay marriage, are we to receive damnation? As an aside, was the American Revolution against Great Britain, arguably far less tyrannical and not godless, a cause for damnation? I am not saying either is, just curious.

Well when many Christians today look back at Ancient Rome, they point out how horrible the Empire was before Constantine; ironically, the same Christians often like to point out how horrible Rome was after it embraced Christianity. Godly laws often lead to a conflict with the 'sinful world' narrative in the Fundamentalist mindset. Yet, although evil laws often confirm the mindset, they also set off alarm bells that God is going to smite our country and that we need to get back on track, by turning back into a Godly nation. It is all fatalism, friends; just another catch 22.

 

[Axehead]

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/justice-scalia-gives-scathing-dissent-to-same-sex-decision/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/antonin-scalia-rips-fellow-justices-sarcastic-dissent-article-1.2272657

 

[Axehead]

This is going to turn into a war on any religion that thinks homosexuality is a sin. I wonder if they are going to go after the Muslims? Transgenders are going to want to assert their rights now and be able to use male or female bathrooms, (depending on who they want to be each day, of course).

So what's next for the same-sex movement?

It is widely believed that this decision will soon affect the tax status of Christian colleges who forbid same-sex relationships. In 1983, the Supreme Court ruled that the IRS could take away the tax-exempt status of Bob Jones University because they banned interracial relationships. The University decided they would rather pay back taxes than change their policy, however, in 2000 they dropped their interracial dating rule because of public outcry.

With today's ruling, conservative religious schools are probably facing a heart-wrenching decision—abandon their policies that prohibit same-sex relationships or risk losing their tax-exempt status.

Why does secular law now become divine law?

http://www.chick.com/m/bc/2015/activists.asp

 

[Webers_Home]

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"In God We Trust" became the USA's official motto in 1956 and was printed
on American currency beginning in 1957. That motto is way overdue to be
removed because I seriously doubt there are enough people in the USA
trusting in God anymore to justify its use. I'd even go so far as to say that
God is insulted by that motto because He knows it isn't true.

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[ATP]

Is it true that a pastor can be arrested for not marrying a same sex couple?

 

[lforrest]

Is it true that a pastor can be arrested for not marrying a same sex couple?

Not that I know of, yet...

It could be illegal for a clerk of the court to deny a marriage license, as they would be accused of denying a clvil liberty to someone.

What is concerning is that some politicians are calling on the states to defy the supreme court's ruling. That is a lose, lose situation... Defying the supreme court will lead to the president ordering the Feds to correct the situation in the states with force. This was done back in 1957 when the Governor of Arkansas opposed the ruling of the supreme court regarding the desegregation of schools. The outcome was that the president federalized Arkansas' national guard. I can only see an undermining of state governance as a result of this ruling, and its enforcement.

The only way to correct it is to dissolve the supreme court, and if that was done under a conservative government imagine the civil unrest.

 

[Axehead]

Divorce,pornography,stealing,lying etc. are considered actions, The Church and individuals are welcome to speak and preach against actions.
What the court ruling has done is redefine the act and lifestyle of homosexuality from that of an action and now has equated it similar to that of race.

The obvious direction of our society is to stamp out any and everything that it deems as racist! Do you see what the court ruling has just done to the Bible and Biblical Christianity ?

Do you now understand why Persecution to all Bible Believers has basicaly became inevitable. It could be 5 years or 50 years but the course to stamp out Biblical Christianity has been set.

 

[River Jordan]

Is it true that a pastor can be arrested for not marrying a same sex couple?

Not in the US....not at all.

 

[Webers_Home]

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If I'm reading Rom 1:18-32 correctly: national approval of LGBT marriages
is itself a judgment. In other words: when God stands by and does nothing
to discourage a nation from approving LGBT marriages, it's an indication that
He's given them over to it.

Exactly why God decided to give the USA over to LGBT marriages I don't
know; but here's some possibilities that I gleaned from that passage in
Romans.

1• Refusal to accept that the cosmos-- all of its forms of life and energy -- is
the result of intelligent design.

2• Refusal to revere God as God

3• Treating the truth about God as if it were a fable or a myth

4• Disinterest in learning God's ways

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[lforrest]

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If I'm reading Rom 1:18-32 correctly: national approval of LGBT marriages
is itself a judgment. In other words: when God stands by and does nothing
to discourage a nation from approving LGBT marriages, it's an indication that
He's given them over to it.

Exactly why God decided to give the USA over to LGBT marriages I don't
know; but here's some possibilities that I gleaned from that passage in
Romans.

1• Refusal to accept that the cosmos-- all of its forms of life and energy -- is
the result of intelligent design.

2• Refusal to revere God as God

3• Treating the truth about God as if it were a fable or a myth

4• Disinterest in learning God's ways

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Judgement comes today because of the denial of the eternal gospel, because people refuse to fear God and give him Glory?

It makes sense, because the last day judgement is for those who deny the Lordship of Jesus. (John 12:48)

 

[KingJ]

This is going to turn into a war on any religion that thinks homosexuality is a sin. I wonder if they are going to go after the Muslims? Transgenders are going to want to assert their rights now and be able to use male or female bathrooms, (depending on who they want to be each day, of course).

So what's next for the same-sex movement?

It is widely believed that this decision will soon affect the tax status of Christian colleges who forbid same-sex relationships. In 1983, the Supreme Court ruled that the IRS could take away the tax-exempt status of Bob Jones University because they banned interracial relationships. The University decided they would rather pay back taxes than change their policy, however, in 2000 they dropped their interracial dating rule because of public outcry.

With today's ruling, conservative religious schools are probably facing a heart-wrenching decision—abandon their policies that prohibit same-sex relationships or risk losing their tax-exempt status.

Why does secular law now become divine law?

http://www.chick.com/m/bc/2015/activists.asp

That link made me chuckle.

''God deosn't make junk'' Uhmm then why are you going against the natural cause of your body?
''Separarate is not equal'' How do you make a spelling mistake on a sign board?
''Straight divroce > '' So my sin is ok with God because others sin too.